Should Syria Be Next?

[meesterperfect]

Thank you Mayhem.
I do get a little dramatic at times I know.

As far as WWII. Well, we'll save that for another day.:hatsoff:

 

[luckyeight]

This is the one which could lead to WW3, are US willing to step down and leave Syria alone? I hope so

 

[meesterperfect]

Tomorrow they will decide whether or not to sget WWIII rolling.
Obama, aides expected to weigh Syria military options on Friday
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-options-exclusiv-idUSKCN12D2B2
http://www.govtslaves.info/obama-to-decide-friday-on-military-action-in-syria/

Propaganda machine CNN is right on que.
US finds growing evidence Russia feeding emails to WikiLeaks
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/13/politics/russia-us-election/

So now there's evidence they say? Just hours before they have a meeting to go to war.

And there many saying that ISIS and the like are moving in mass from Iraq into Syria at this moment. No coincidence there.
They are and have been the US's boots on the ground.

I'm sure many feel this is happening now due to the current state of the election.
A war now would hurt HC big time. Actually the final stroke of the hammer in that final nail. No amount of propaganda short of a major false flag event would convince The People to support a war with Russia. Especially since all they got as of now is "They Hacked Hiliarys emails".
With all the new hacked emails coming out plus a barrage of othe stuff the msm isn't covering they know she is toast. They can't rig it enough.
So like many have predicted they are going to give Trump a war to start his presidency off with.

Let's see what these scumbags come up with today.

 

[acenipplelicker]

lets arabs and mid east countries be the boots on the ground in the mid east wars-the us can maybe help with air cover

 

[meesterperfect]

Well ace, your post provokes the question- Who would the US be fighting?
It's a bit confusing. The part of tonights debate to me was disappointing because Trump failed to fully explain the true situation.
The situation which most Americans don'y really comprehend.

The US has made it clear that they want Assad dead or gone.
They have made it clear they have no intention to fight with Assads Syrian military and with Russia who are the ones fighting the "terror groups", ISIS, ISIL, Daesh, which are actually paid mercenaries from all over. Very few are even Syrian. (the name changes of the groups are only done to confuse. They are all really The Muslim Brotherhood).

So if the US would be fighting anybody over there who would it be?
They have 2 choices. Assad and Russia or ISIS.

People need to understand. This has been admitted by the US so it's no secret.
THe USA "sells" Billions of dollars of weaponry including tanks and other war machines to the Saudis and Qatar.
THe Saudis and Qater supply ISIS ect with this weaponry.
ISIS ect use this weaponry to fight against the Syrian and Iraqi armies, or whover else they are ordered to.
Its only safe to assume the same nations arming them are paying them and giving them their orders.

So if the US is supposedly fighting ISIS ect, and ISIS is responsible for all these 'Terror Attacks" around the world, then why are they arming them to begin with?

They are a made in the USA boogeyman used as an excuse to keep the military industrial complex, the Pentagon, in business and a tool for the systematic destruction of the middle east so they can be pillaged for all their worth. Who cares how many millions must die to acheive this.
When I hear Hiliary talking about that little Syrian boy who was injured by a weapon or bomb she sold them or the Pulse nightclub ISIS attack I literally get nauseous.

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

Well ace, your post provokes the question- Who would the US be fighting?
It's a bit confusing. The part of tonights debate to me was disappointing because Trump failed to fully explain the true situation.
The situation which most Americans don'y really comprehend.

The US has made it clear that they want Assad dead or gone.
They have made it clear they have no intention to fight with Assads Syrian military and with Russia who are the ones fighting the "terror groups", ISIS, ISIL, Daesh, which are actually paid mercenaries from all over. Very few are even Syrian. (the name changes of the groups are only done to confuse. They are all really The Muslim Brotherhood).

So if the US would be fighting anybody over there who would it be?
They have 2 choices. Assad and Russia or ISIS.

People need to understand. This has been admitted by the US so it's no secret.
THe USA "sells" Billions of dollars of weaponry including tanks and other war machines to the Saudis and Qatar.
THe Saudis and Qater supply ISIS ect with this weaponry.
ISIS ect use this weaponry to fight against the Syrian and Iraqi armies, or whover else they are ordered to.
Its only safe to assume the same nations arming them are paying them and giving them their orders.

So if the US is supposedly fighting ISIS ect, and ISIS is responsible for all these 'Terror Attacks" around the world, then why are they arming them to begin with?

They are a made in the USA boogeyman used as an excuse to keep the military industrial complex, the Pentagon, in business and a tool for the systematic destruction of the middle east so they can be pillaged for all their worth. Who cares how many millions must die to acheive this.
When I hear Hiliary talking about that little Syrian boy who was injured by a weapon or bomb she sold them or the Pulse nightclub ISIS attack I literally get nauseous.

Leave it to Russia let them spend the $$$

 

[meesterperfect]

Alright.
So Syrians are dancing in the street of Aleppo.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c68_1481297926

Good for them. I guess they aint afraid of Assad gassing them after all.

Yep, no thanks to the USA or Nato it seems most of Aleppo has been liberated.
Now the US MSM has described this as "Aleppo has Fallen" instead of been liberated.
Which again shows exactly who's side they are on.

They even used robots to help win.
Wouldn't want to go up against one of these
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/23561...ss-with-the-help-of-machine-gun-toting-robot/

And the US State Dept has weighed in. Asking Russia and Syria to "Show Grace" against the terrorist mercenary groups they arm and fund.
John Kerry says, "Please dont kill our hired terrorists. If you keep killing them we;ll never be able to find more to work for us again".
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-38275553

And here comes israel messin around, trying to start shit again.
http://www.awdnews.com/political/ru...i-fighter-jets-if-they-intervene-in-syria-war

Maybe if Russia shoots down an isreal war jet that the US paid for that will give the US and Nato an excuse to declare war on Syria and Russia and save their terrorist soldiers. Lindsey Grahm might get what he wants after all.

 

[acenipplelicker]

the us military is too weak to do much attacking out side of drone strikes- we need reserves for Russia and the guy with the bad haircut

 

[meesterperfect]

Every time I see this guy interviewed he impresses me more.
His country was destroyed and so many murdered but he always speaks calmly and answers questions directly.
Guess when your telling the truth its not that hard.

 

[cometcomma]

We begin bombing in 5mins or in this case when trumps hair grooming is over.

 

[meesterperfect]

We begin bombing in 5mins or in this case when trumps hair grooming is over.

haha funny not funny.
but serial, think of this.
You are the elected leader of a sovereign nation.
You attacked nobody, you threatened nobody.
Then suddenly an army of bearded mercenaries somehow armed to the teeth with US guns, bombs, and death machines attacks your country.
5 years later with the help of Russia you begin killing enough of them that they start to take off.
(See mercenaries fight for money, can't keep making those big bucks when youre dead. Thats why they usually eventually get defeated. Easy to kill a few million civilians but when a real force comes at them they run away ).

So here you are. Your country is fucked up. Your biggest city is in rubble. A million, maybe more of your people are dead.
And you know who's responsible. Same country who thinks they can send troops into your country without your permission, kill a bunch of your soldiers "by accident" and call themselves your friends while demanding you leave your country or die.
You know who paid an armed these maniacs to destroy your country, kill your people and eventually kill you the same way they did to Gadaffi. You know Evil Hiliary would have been laughing about it on TV.
You know the US and Western European governments and their controlled media are calling you a mass murdering maniac and most of the people there are still stupid enough to believe it.

 

[sean miguel]

If I had a dollar for every time you've said "bearded mercenaries" I'd have $264.

can you use "bearded clams" just once? Mix it in there some time to keep us on our toes.

 

[bodie54]

Every time I see this guy interviewed he impresses me more.
His country was destroyed and so many murdered but he always speaks calmly and answers questions directly.
Guess when your telling the truth its not that hard.

Yeah, good old Bashar is a sweetheart of a guy
Check it out:

"Human Rights groups, such as Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International, have detailed how the Assad government's secret police allegedly tortured, imprisoned, and killed political opponents, and those who speak out against the government. In addition, some 600 Lebanese political prisoners are thought to be held in government prisons since the Syrian occupation of Lebanon, with some held for as long as over 30 years.

Nadim Shehadi, the director of The Fares Center for Eastern Mediterranean Studies stated that "In the early 1990s, Saddam Hussein was massacring his people and we were worried about the weapons inspectors," and claimed that "Assad did that too. He kept us busy with chemical weapons when he massacred his people."
In September 2015, France began an inquiry into Assad for crimes against humanity, with French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius stating "Faced with these crimes that offend the human conscience, this bureaucracy of horror, faced with this denial of the values of humanity, it is our responsibility to act against the impunity of the killers".

In February 2016, head of the UN Commission of Inquiry on Syria, Paulo Pinheiro, told reporters: "The mass scale of deaths of detainees suggests that the government of Syria is responsible for acts that amount to extermination as a crime against humanity." The UN Commission reported finding "unimaginable abuses", including women and children as young as seven perishing while being held by Syrian authorities. The report also stated: "There are reasonable grounds to believe that high-ranking officers—including the heads of branches and directorates—commanding these detention facilities, those in charge of the military police, as well as their civilian superiors, knew of the vast number of deaths occurring in detention facilities ... yet did not take action to prevent abuse, investigate allegations or prosecute those responsible".

The Federal Bureau of Investigation has claimed that at least 10 European citizens were tortured by the Assad government while detained during the Syrian Civil War, potentially leaving Assad open to prosecution by individual European countries for war crimes. Stephen Rapp, the United States Ambassador-at-Large for War Crimes Issues, has argued that the crimes allegedly committed by Assad are the worst seen since those of Nazi Germany. In March 2015, Rapp further stated that the case against Assad is "much better" than those against Slobodan Milošević of Serbia or Charles Taylor of Liberia, both of whom were indicted by international tribunals.

In a February 2015 interview with the BBC, Assad described accusations that the Syrian Arab Air Force used barrel bombs as "childish", stating that his forces have never used these types of "barrel" bombs and responded with a joke about not using "cooking pots" either. The BBC Middle East editor conducting the interview, Jeremy Bowen, later described Assad's statement regarding barrel bombs as "patently not true".

 

[Jack Davenport]

Yeah, good old Bashar is a sweetheart of a guy
Check it out:

"Human Rights groups, such as Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International, have detailed how the Assad government's secret police allegedly tortured, imprisoned, and killed political opponents, and those who speak out against the government. In addition, some 600 Lebanese political prisoners are thought to be held in government prisons since the Syrian occupation of Lebanon, with some held for as long as over 30 years.

Nadim Shehadi, the director of The Fares Center for Eastern Mediterranean Studies stated that "In the early 1990s, Saddam Hussein was massacring his people and we were worried about the weapons inspectors," and claimed that "Assad did that too. He kept us busy with chemical weapons when he massacred his people."
In September 2015, France began an inquiry into Assad for crimes against humanity, with French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius stating "Faced with these crimes that offend the human conscience, this bureaucracy of horror, faced with this denial of the values of humanity, it is our responsibility to act against the impunity of the killers".

In February 2016, head of the UN Commission of Inquiry on Syria, Paulo Pinheiro, told reporters: "The mass scale of deaths of detainees suggests that the government of Syria is responsible for acts that amount to extermination as a crime against humanity." The UN Commission reported finding "unimaginable abuses", including women and children as young as seven perishing while being held by Syrian authorities. The report also stated: "There are reasonable grounds to believe that high-ranking officers—including the heads of branches and directorates—commanding these detention facilities, those in charge of the military police, as well as their civilian superiors, knew of the vast number of deaths occurring in detention facilities ... yet did not take action to prevent abuse, investigate allegations or prosecute those responsible".

The Federal Bureau of Investigation has claimed that at least 10 European citizens were tortured by the Assad government while detained during the Syrian Civil War, potentially leaving Assad open to prosecution by individual European countries for war crimes. Stephen Rapp, the United States Ambassador-at-Large for War Crimes Issues, has argued that the crimes allegedly committed by Assad are the worst seen since those of Nazi Germany. In March 2015, Rapp further stated that the case against Assad is "much better" than those against Slobodan Milošević of Serbia or Charles Taylor of Liberia, both of whom were indicted by international tribunals.

In a February 2015 interview with the BBC, Assad described accusations that the Syrian Arab Air Force used barrel bombs as "childish", stating that his forces have never used these types of "barrel" bombs and responded with a joke about not using "cooking pots" either. The BBC Middle East editor conducting the interview, Jeremy Bowen, later described Assad's statement regarding barrel bombs as "patently not true".

 

[sean miguel]

boom shakalaka

 

[xfire]

Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International

Fake Groups

 

[cometcomma]

We begin bombing in 5mins or in this case when trumps hair grooming is over.

Or he finishes a round of golf.

 

[meesterperfect]

Just keep countering facts with mainstream media bullshit.
Propaganda.
Its too late for you, they have stolen your brain, theyve robbed your thoughts.
You will never see reality that the media is part of the Deep State Government. The CIA.
Thats why they cant be honest like Trump suggested to them yesterday.
They can't. If they did where would the money come from? Advertising? Nowhere nearly enough.
So everytime you counter the real story with propaganda from the Fake News media it means nothing to me.
Maybe to a few here who know everything they say is lies but instinctively still believe them like zombies who instinctively migrate to shopping malls.

Everything I've written about what our country did to Libya, Syria is true.
It is what happened.
The degree of mass murder and genocide that our country has done in the past 15 years is among the worst in history and most Americans have no clue about it. Theyll talk about those evil germans while simultaneouly spewing about killing all arabs.........because they are brainwashed idiots.
So you justify what the neocons who ran the Bush and Obama administraiton did to all those places and all those people who did nothing to us at all with the lies and propaganda they put out there.
You buy it all in your brain. I'll believe reality instead.

Assad didnt kill his own people. Gadaffi didnt kill is own people.
Theyre countries and many more since 9/11 were attacked, their people mass murdered, the wealth stolen with absoloutley no justification and no legal process.
To me I'm ashamed of it as an American.
To you, you find ways to justify it, probably because you love israel so much.
You want to do the same to Iran now because thats what Netanyahoo wants.

Debate me all you want. To anybody who can think and has a bit of common sense its pretty clear what happened, what our country has done.
Or you can believe the same Media and criminal government, the same criminal governmnt who is in open rebellion against the current PREZ because he might put an end to their criminal shit.

 

[meesterperfect]

If I had a dollar for every time you've said "bearded mercenaries" I'd have $264.

can you use "bearded clams" just once? Mix it in there some time to keep us on our toes.

AF I say bearded mercenaries because that is the most accurate term.
Do you think they are religious?
On a Jihad?
If they were would they roll into every country we carpet bombed into the stone age and start raping and slaughtering people?
Chopping people up into pieces?

This is what they are. They are an army, a big fucking army.
They have plenty of weapons even tanks.
Think about the amount of money it takes to pay, feed, clothe, mobilize, and arm hundreds of thousands of mercenaries.
They dont work cheap.
Now think of all the intelligence agencies our country spends billions each year on. None of them have any clue where the money comes from?
They cant figure it out?
No, they can just have the mouthpeice of the day lie and tel the world "I'TS IRAN" when Iran along with Russia and Syria are the only ones actually fighting and killing them.......but yet they are our enemy. Go figure.

There is only 1 country in the world with the wealth to pay for all this. A lot of that wealth comes from the countries we invaded and robbed.
Not to mention the massive amount of opium from Afghanistan suddenly flooding the planet since 2003.
Is this even a secret anymore?

So some people can laugh about how the USA completely arms and funds the exact same people they claim to be fighting which they are clearly not nor ever were.
They can laugh at the fact that we use these mercenaries to commit atrocities all over Africa and the Middle East. You know, kill millions of women and children........hahaha, funny shit.
And they can get angry everytime someone goes on a killing spree and shouts "Aloha Snackbar" while theyre doing it.
Cant blame them really, their just weak minded who can't think for themselves. Controlled masses.

Its us, The United States run by criminals and israel first neocons who arm and pay these BEARDED MERCENARIES.
Then they tell us they are our enemy and they will protect us from them. When was the last time we tried to fight them?

 

[xfire]

If you are right, MP, and you very well may be, you do realize that sooner or later they're going to get to Trump, if he's not already lock stock in step with them. Think about it, you don't amass the kind of wealth Trump controls without being in with the people you're railing against.