Sci-Fi/Horror fans... Alien vs The Thing

When people talk about their favorite Sci-fi/Horror films these two movies always come up.

Which film do you think is better?

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Alien

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEVY_lonKf4



The Thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouZkkIsLiNg
 
LOL, when I read the title I thought it was about a new movie, just like Alien VS Predator...

I wanted to make a comment that I was waiting for the movie Alien VS Alf, but of course, since that's not exactly what this topic is about, such a reply doesn't really make much sense....

Since I haven't seen the movie the Thing, I guess I'll just leave this thread now...
 
To be honest,even though I've seen it a few times,I never really understood "The Thing".If it can just inhabit a host body and has a lot of tentacles,then xenomorph Alien would clean it's clock any day of the week.
 
I prefer the original movies those two were based on.

In the case of "Alien" that would be.
It! The Terror from Beyond Space (1958)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeH7T0qWtg0


And for "The Thing" it would be.
The Thing From Another World (1951)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1te2zzJ5aTs



Of those two "The Thing From Another World" is clearly the better movie but I love the other one for how silly it is in some ways.Like they have lots of cigarettes on board the space ship as well as hand grenades and M-1 rifles which they use liberally.:eek::D
 
To be honest,even though I've seen it a few times,I never really understood "The Thing".If it can just inhabit a host body and has a lot of tentacles,then xenomorph Alien would clean it's clock any day of the week.

Xenomorphs are the ultimate badasses, apart from predators, of course.

You guys must not understand the biology of it, then. The aliens, like many other life forms, don't stand a chance against "The Thing", because it doesn't inhabit a body- it kills its victim, and mutates itself to imitate that life form perfectly. And each cell of "The Thing" is pretty much its own organism, so it really only takes one cell of this terrible thing to infest, multiply, kill, and then replicate more to imitate whatever it is trying to imitate.

It's quite a horrifying creature, and there is little defense against it, which is why it was such a bleak, paranoid movie.

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LOL, when I read the title I thought it was about a new movie, just like Alien VS Predator...

I wanted to make a comment that I was waiting for the movie Alien VS Alf, but of course, since that's not exactly what this topic is about, such a reply doesn't really make much sense....

Since I haven't seen the movie the Thing, I guess I'll just leave this thread now...

My thoughts exactly. :hatsoff:
 
You guys must not understand the biology of it, then. The aliens, like many other life forms, don't stand a chance against "The Thing", because it doesn't inhabit a body- it kills its victim, and mutates itself to imitate that life form perfectly. And each cell of "The Thing" is pretty much its own organism, so it really only takes one cell of this terrible thing to infest, multiply, kill, and then replicate more to imitate whatever it is trying to imitate.

It's quite a horrifying creature, and there is little defense against it, which is why it was such a bleak, paranoid movie.

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So what happens when an Alien bleeds it's acidic blood all over the Thing or like in AVP whips it's partially severed tail to spew acid all over the Thing?I'm still going with the Aliens on this one,Especially if it's a queen Xenomorph.
 
Awesome both my favorite movies love the thing its a classic with kurt russell. I think the thing would take over an alien and then there would be hell. Because we now have a thing alien unless the aliens can sense it.
 
So what happens when an Alien bleeds it's acidic blood all over the Thing or like in AVP whips it's partially severed tail to spew acid all over the Thing?I'm still going with the Aliens on this one,Especially if it's a queen Xenomorph.

Then it would burn away only PART of the Thing, which would leave all those thing cells still alive and active to kill and replicate the alien.

I don't think you understand- ONE cell of the THing is dangerous and deadly.

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id say 'The Thing' - has alot more going for it as a politcal film & the effects work is beyond legendary on that. Plus its actually scary - where as 'Alien' certainly isn't. Can't deny 'Alien' has influenced cinema perhaps more than 'The Thing' but i'd also hazard a guess that 'The Thing' was made on less money & in a shorter amount of time too.

It's worth noting that 'The Thing' is actually a remake & the sequel to 'Alien' (Aliens) is perhaps the greatest sequel ever. Saying that Rodriguez has just announced that he is re-booting the Predator franchise - guess what it's called: "PREDATORS"

...hopefully that'll be made AFTER he makes 'Machete'!
 
I'm starting to like the debate over who would kick who's ass but it's about which movie you thought was better.

"The Thing" gets my vote as the better film.

 
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I prefer the original movies those two were based on.

In the case of "Alien" that would be.
It! The Terror from Beyond Space (1958)


And for "The Thing" it would be.
The Thing From Another World (1951)
Well, I wouldn't quite agree with that. "The Thing" was a remake of "The Thing From Another World" and was always declared a remake of that movie. Whereas "Alien" was neither based on "It! The Terror from Beyond Space" nor a remake of that movie. This rumor exists since some representatives of the studio that made "It!" sued the producers of "Alien" for alleged plagiarization, which never stuck. One of the writers of the first draft of the "Alien" script named "It!" as one of his many influences, but that's about the only connection between these two movies and it's very slim. That's like saying "Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl" is based on "The Black Pirate". ;)


I like both movies, "The Thing" and "Alien" very much. Both are amongst my favorite movies. I've seen both of them many many times.
But to answer the question, which movie is better, I'd have to say "Alien". The movie was made under considerably more pressure and still was a bigger success. It works from the first to the last second and there are no "holes" in it (like logical errors or holes in the plot). "The Thing" may be a great movie, but I can name two holes in it off the top of my head.

The most astounding thing I've learned about "Alien" so far is that Scott had even seen the future of this "franchise" long before it got picked up for a second movie. He already had shot scenes showing the "lairs" aliens build with human beings pinned to walls, but had them cut later for the cinematic version of the film. And we all know that James Cameron later showed exactly that in "Aliens" as the next logical in presenting more information about how these creatures live and procreate, although he had never seen the scenes Scot had left out of "Alien". There are not many director's who bring that much foresight, vision and dedication into their movies like Scott brought into "Alien". As much as I love John Carpenter and his remake of "The Thing", I have to pick "Alien".


invader said:
Can't deny 'Alien' has influenced cinema perhaps more than 'The Thing' but i'd also hazard a guess that 'The Thing' was made on less money & in a shorter amount of time too.
Well, an understandable guess, but not tru. The real "production time" (that means without the time from the writing of the original screenplay to the signing of contracts) for "The Thing" and "Alien" are about the same and the production costs for "The Thing" are estimated at about 1 to 1.6 milion Dollars more than those of "Alien".
 

Patrick_S

persona non grata
I like The Thing a lot but Alien is one of the greatest movies ever made so i would have to say Alien.
 
Judging by the movies themselves and not the alien "organisms" themselves, I'll choose John Carpenter's The Thing in a heartbeat. That movie is fucked up, and just pure insanity. Basing a decision on the creatures, I'd go with Alien. You gotta give it to "the Thing" though, it was pretty fucking frightening when trying to emulate the dogs... with those horrific sounds it made and everything... One of the single most frightening pieces of cinema I've ever seen to date.
 
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