Ain't that da truth!!
Schwarzenegger's proposal to end welfare
- Thread starter Ace Boobtoucher
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Reps to you all :hatsoff:
You've got it all backwards...its the majority that abuse welfare. You should come live in Texas for awhile. Every person I know of that is on welfare abuse the system. They have 20 kids but somehow manage to drive far better cars than I can afford :wtf:
Alls I can say is Arnold for President!
fuck no!!
Now you know HOW I feel :1orglaugh
You've missed the point. It's not that there's a sense of "job entitlement." It's the *reality* in America that even working 3 Fast Food jobs DOES NOT MAKE ENDS MEET in an expensive place such as San Jose, CA. You do want a single mom to spend SOME time with her child, right? When would that occur, midnight?
And isn't there something "big picture" wrong when a 65 yr old person has to work to live? I'd like a country where 65 yr olds can work if they want to, not because they have to. What about retirement? What about job turnover for "the next generation"? Do we just *hope* the invisible hand of the market will take care of everything?:dunno: Cost of living and wages/salaries don't seem in sync in 2/3rds of the country anymore. Should everyone who isn't on the corporate track move to Podunk Nebraska?
Additionally,how about the millions of ILLEGAL immigrants who also receive the same welfare benefits! It's a disgrace to we American taxpayers.
I am really pressed to find anyone in my community who truly needs welfare. Many healthy souls who simply choose not to work and still maintain a selfish lifestyle at the government's expense.
Many people from countries where healthcare is free come to the United States for open heart surgery and cancer treatment because the wait with socialized medicine at home would kill them.
Ummm...yeah, if you don't count people that were purposely keep in perpetual debt in company towns or people that died in their 40s from black lung. The conditions of miners was one of the biggest factors in the creation of both unionized labor and industrial regulations because of the abuses they faced. You have a very weird definition of the word "thrived".
I also find the Horatio Alger like "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" philosophy (or more correctly, fallacy) that some people think of amusing. There are people out there that literally can't improve their situation, and despite what personal observation and anecdotal evidence people use most people on welfare either have it pretty sucky, or have limited options which is why they are on welfare. I admit there are a few out there that truly abuse the system. I also have to say I can't believe that people can't understand that for a huge portion of the population there just aren't any jobs out there period, and definitely no reasonable living wage ones.
I have an idea. If everybody is so against just giving people money when they need assistance, and they think they should just find work how about instead of welfare for every able bodied person the government go as far as to create a reasonable living wage job in their area if that's what it takes and give it that person. That way they get the help they need and society gets the benefit of their work. There would be no people abusing the system. Of course if anybody ever actually thought of that there would still be people out there and even on this board be crying about socialism because the government directly creating jobs, even if it makes complete sense. It seems like too many people operate under the belief that they got theirs and everybody else can be thrown to the wolves if doing so might save them some money, even if they won’t admit that to themselves.
meesterperfect
Hiliary 2020
ok tits, i understand and agree with that.
Lack of jobs??? Ok, in order to receive welfare of all types, how about painting city hall,mowing,it's lawn,sweeping streets and sidewalks,cleaning playgrounds or other government sites for 15 hours a week! That is needed work.
Oh! I guess liberal lawmakers deemed that is unconstitutional!
Instead, they can sit on their asses and allow hardworking people to grant them a free existence.
Timely anecdote: I stopped on my way home this afternoon to grab a few things at the grocery sore for the weekend. The woman in front of me didn't speak english, had 3 kids with her, and paid for a cart of groceries with food stamps. And she was obese to boot. I could only stand there, dumbfounded, thinking about this thread and that she was a microcosm of a MAJOR problem!
And we wonder why America is in trouble? We shouldn't... we've allowed it to happen at every turn.
And this, in a nutshell, is why although I think the GOP is pretty pathetic as a political party, I could never, ever, never support a modern American "liberal" agenda, nor the Democratic party in its current form. It's slavery in my estimation... modern slavery, when people are made to be dependent on the government to be their provider, and Dems know this more than anyone, that's their base and where they get most of their votes.
End rant, time for the weekend :glugglug:
And we wonder why America is in trouble? We shouldn't... we've allowed it to happen at every turn.
And this, in a nutshell, is why although I think the GOP is pretty pathetic as a political party, I could never, ever, never support a modern American "liberal" agenda, nor the Democratic party in its current form. It's slavery in my estimation... modern slavery, when people are made to be dependent on the government to be their provider, and Dems know this more than anyone, that's their base and where they get most of their votes.
End rant, time for the weekend :glugglug:
Wainkerr99
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If they just earned a basic wage, imo they are entitled to food stamps to help survive.
Thing is, I myself am now at College. I am no longer able to receive food stamps or the unemployment needed to pay rent.
To my mind it is a sweet deal. I receive help from hardworking citizens. (Considering the trillions wasted over the decades on unnecessary wars and overseas tours, it isn't too much to ask), In return, I attend College, learn my craft, then become a hardworking, law abiding, perfect, innocent, exemplary, blameless pillar of the community.
Ahem. Well, obey traffic signals at least. And no drugs. Oh you know what I mean.
The Unemployment Office staff lady I spoke to agreed with me. Now, if it wasn't for handouts and donations I would have to work 8 hours a day, attend College at night, somehow do practical and theory examinations, and still grasp everything and pass so well that I would have a better chance at finding work.
The truth is there are students who do this. There is an instructor who works day and night. She has done this for 10 years. She goes home at night at 10.30, to get up the next morning at 6 and repeat the process.
I myself am not quite capable of this. I tried working 3 jobs, just about 3 nights a week at another time in my life while working during the day. I nearly had a heart attack. Admittedly I was playing gigs as well. This third job was a waitering one, but still.
Another time while studying I worked all night one night a week. My head refused to think after a few months. I had to leave College.
In addition, some of these students have children as well.
It is a big burden to bear.
Some can do this. Others cannot.
It is useless reasoning with Bureaucracy. I tried pointing out that helping me with $ 1 740 of food stamps for a 10 month period is not a big deal, but no.
As for my unemployment, I was entitled to that.
So I discovered why people depend on the State. Still, it is worth it to try make a better life for oneself.
A. S. might just be throwing the children out of the nest a bit here, but the legislation needs to be carefully thought through and implemented.
Thing is, I myself am now at College. I am no longer able to receive food stamps or the unemployment needed to pay rent.
To my mind it is a sweet deal. I receive help from hardworking citizens. (Considering the trillions wasted over the decades on unnecessary wars and overseas tours, it isn't too much to ask), In return, I attend College, learn my craft, then become a hardworking, law abiding, perfect, innocent, exemplary, blameless pillar of the community.
Ahem. Well, obey traffic signals at least. And no drugs. Oh you know what I mean.
The Unemployment Office staff lady I spoke to agreed with me. Now, if it wasn't for handouts and donations I would have to work 8 hours a day, attend College at night, somehow do practical and theory examinations, and still grasp everything and pass so well that I would have a better chance at finding work.
The truth is there are students who do this. There is an instructor who works day and night. She has done this for 10 years. She goes home at night at 10.30, to get up the next morning at 6 and repeat the process.
I myself am not quite capable of this. I tried working 3 jobs, just about 3 nights a week at another time in my life while working during the day. I nearly had a heart attack. Admittedly I was playing gigs as well. This third job was a waitering one, but still.
Another time while studying I worked all night one night a week. My head refused to think after a few months. I had to leave College.
In addition, some of these students have children as well.
It is a big burden to bear.
Some can do this. Others cannot.
It is useless reasoning with Bureaucracy. I tried pointing out that helping me with $ 1 740 of food stamps for a 10 month period is not a big deal, but no.
As for my unemployment, I was entitled to that.
So I discovered why people depend on the State. Still, it is worth it to try make a better life for oneself.
A. S. might just be throwing the children out of the nest a bit here, but the legislation needs to be carefully thought through and implemented.
Jane Burgess
Official Checked Star Member
SSI also needs to be reformed. I know a person that needs it and he can't get it. He worked for years and now has a medical disorder that keeps him from working for a while. To many people are on it that do not need to be. They approve you for three years at a time and do not check on you until those three years are up. You could be fine for a year or two and they would not know.
WOW! a fat non english (america doesn't have its own language) woman with a trio of offspring using food stamps. She MUST be representative of everyone on welfare I guess. . .
:dunno:LOL... you just made that ridiculous story up!...
hmmm lets see...a woman...obese...doesn't speak english...had 3 kids...paying with food stamps. :rofl:
Your story is just a bunch of hogwash, and you exhibit very strong anti-immigration sentiments.
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