would we be upset if this were Jenna Jameson or Savanna Samson?
For all the people that have such a problem with her being there I wonder how many would have a problem with any of these people doing the same thing?
Kate Moss
Drew Barrymore
Robert Downey Jr.
Eddie Van Halen
Snoop Dogg
David Bowie
Paul Reubens
Tupac(if he was still alive)
Darryl Strawberry
George W Bush
Michael Vick
Lindsey Lohan
Ice T
Paris Hilton
Kim Kardashian
Be honest, I bet none of you would have a problem if they all did the same thing. They've all done things much worse than porn yet people don't have a problem with them.
Actually almost all have done similar things volunteering or fundraising or charity work with kids and they have all been praised for helping out the community and the kids.
C'mon dude, this is a high level cop-out argument. Let's not trivialize this and make this more juvenile. All this 'but these people are worse' bullshit is irrelevant. Fact is: those people represent very different professions, and most importantly... THEY ARE NOT SASHA GREY.
Ms. Grey is one of the faces of pornography. She represents the lifestyle and profession, and because of this, she is not an appropriate model for kids in any form or fashion. Pornography and kids do not go together. Period. End of story. If that is what you are a representative of, have the decency to understand that with that choice comes exclusion. I remember when David Duke wanted to speak at an elementary school years ago. Mr. Duke was a political figurehead, and a well educated individual... but also a well known racist. When people found out he was allowed to speak, parents began pulling their kids out of school. It had nothing to do with David Duke as a person, but more with what he represented, and its the same thing with Sasha Grey.
I would also have a problem with some of the people listed showing up to my kids school for the same reason. Not as much of a problem as a pornstar, but a problem nonetheless. If what you do is intended for ADULTS ONLY, why would I want you around my kids? The funny part is, I couldn't even show my children what some of those folks are famous for, even though they're introduced as 'famous'.
For all the people that have such a problem with her being there I wonder how many would have a problem with any of these people doing the same thing?
Kate Moss
Drew Barrymore
Robert Downey Jr.
Eddie Van Halen
Snoop Dogg
David Bowie
Paul Reubens
Tupac(if he was still alive)
Darryl Strawberry
George W Bush
Michael Vick
Lindsey Lohan
Ice T
Paris Hilton
Kim Kardashian
Be honest, I bet none of you would have a problem if they all did the same thing. They've all done things much worse than porn yet people don't have a problem with them.
Actually almost all have done similar things volunteering or fundraising or charity work with kids and they have all been praised for helping out the community and the kids.
Why in the fuck is GWB listed here?
The kids should be reading to him.
C'mon dude, this is a high level cop-out argument. Let's not trivialize this and make this more juvenile. All this 'but these people are worse' bullshit is irrelevant. Fact is: those people represent very different professions, and most importantly... THEY ARE NOT SASHA GREY.
Ms. Grey is one of the faces of pornography. She represents the lifestyle and profession, and because of this, she is not an appropriate model for kids in any form or fashion. Pornography and kids do not go together. Period. End of story.
You're the one that's copping out, not myself or anyone else that doesn't have a problem with her reading to kids. The statements that have been made here and other places clearly shows a double standard for anyone associated with porn/nude modeling. What you're basically saying is that it's ok for kids to idolize felons, abusers and drug addicts but it's not ok for them to be read to by someone they don't know that just happens to be a former porn star. It's also being said that it's ok for you to watch and wack off to porn but it's not ok for anyone to be in porn. Were do you guys think it all comes from, photoshop? Come on, people really need to grow up and quit being such prudes that think the human body is so evil.
Read what I said again, because I didn't say any of what you quoted me saying. No, it's not okay for kids to idolize criminals, but none of those people you listed are the face of crime. Sasha Grey is arguably the most prominent face in pornography, which has no fucking place in the lives of children. You seem to make excuses for this. The human body is not evil at all, but stop ignoring the fact that what you do with it can be, and not all of it is appropriate especially for kids. Just because it's not criminal, does not mean it's okay nor does it mean it should be welcome. There are standards and laws set for her profession already as it pertains to children in the first damn place for a really good reason, and I don't want a representative of that appearing in front of my kids. I won't bring my kids to porn in any form, and I'll be damned if somebody brings porn to my kids in any form. No excuses.
You make a compelling argument. Let's face it, porn is not a main stream career choice. And children should be as far removed from it as possible. It is only a product for adults and I would object the the CEO of the Jack Daniels distillery doing it as well. You have swayed my opinion or should I say.. indifference on the matter. Children must be protected at all costs. This is not to say that I think porn stars are going to harm the children in any way. I am certain that many are great fathers and mothers and love their children, but their work disqualifies them from even the slightest chance that young children could find out about their career and become aware of what that work entails. They need to accept that fact without being insulted. It's just a fact of life.
You'd object to the CEO of a drinks company reading to kids; kids who have no fucking idea about either what he does, makes or the social complexity of the alcohol/society interface ...?
Let's see, who else should we ban from reading to kids?
Anyone in the military - killing is their business
Anyone who works for any fast food company - deliberately targeting kids with fat-laden, diabetes II inducing food
Anyone who works for a candy manufacturer - see fast food
Anyone who works in a convenience store - they sell cigarettes, so they are all death dealers
The Cable Guy - for enabling access to morally degenerative pay per view porn
If you think that any of those job descriptions are on par with someone who engages in sexual acts for a living, you are more twisted than I even imagined. Children are exposed to enough already and are endangered more than at anytime I can remember. That may be the most pathetic red herring I have ever seen anyone throw out. I know some OCSM's may be offended by my opinion, but anyone that is intellectually honest will know that children should never even come close to being exposed to porn. Even taking the chance that it may have to be explained to them even under the best of intentions is reckless behavior by adults.
It is only a product for adults and I would object the the CEO of the Jack Daniels distillery doing it as well.
You'd object to the CEO of a drinks company reading to kids; kids who have no fucking idea about either what he does, makes or the social complexity of the alcohol/society interface ...?
Let's see, who else should we ban from reading to kids?
Anyone in the military - killing is their business
Anyone who works for any fast food company - deliberately targeting kids with fat-laden, diabetes II inducing food
Anyone who works for a candy manufacturer - see fast food
Anyone who works in a convenience store - they sell cigarettes, so they are all death dealers
The Cable Guy - for enabling access to morally degenerative pay per view porn
Actually YOU were the one to make the direct comparison.
Look at your post #92
According to you, drinks manufacturers are on a par with pornographers. So why not fast food manufacturers? One look at the health toll of fast food and its impact on society would tell even the stupidest of observers that alcohol pales by comparison.
While I applaud your 'shoot from the hip' spontaneity, and the resulting amusement, I do wonder why someone would keep on wearing clown shoes long after the audience got bored and went home ...
I made the comparison that people who manufacture alcohol produce a product intended for the adult consumer as is pornography. You are the clown painting Happy Meals as dangerous to children psychologically as pornography or alcohol, Ronald.
Again, another cop-out, and a poor diluted example. Again, none of these people are the face of controversial lifestyle or profession. One can argue the military person, but it again, is not nearly the same level of a professional whore in grade school as a guest. We can water this down all we want, but it's pointless to do so when the truth is, certain people are, from the very start, inappropriate for child exposure. This is based on their choice in lifestyle and profession... a profession, in this case, that is illegal as it pertains to children by its very nature. It's highly ignorant to trivialize and break it down to asinine levels, which is where this is headed.