Oh no. I just started this policy today.
I gave up on reading your posts all through. They are just too incoherent whenever you get emotionally involved - IMO.
No offense.
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Oh no. I just started this policy today.
I gave up on reading your posts all through. They are just too incoherent whenever you get emotionally involved - IMO.
No offense.
Re: Putting words in my mouth and not agreeing I have admitted I was wrong in 1 threa
Actually let me correct myself it was AFA who started the thread,my bad:crying:
Re: This thread needs to be closed ...
No, it is just that I believe nothing that you type about anything technical unless a) I already know it or b) you prove it.
Which I rarely, if ever, recall you doing.
Your supposed credentials mean nothing to me.
I am not taking your word on any of it.
And the same applies to everyone on this board - just as it should to me as well.
No, it is just that I believe nothing that you type about anything technical unless a) I already know it or b) you prove it.
Which I rarely, if ever, recall you doing.
Your supposed credentials mean nothing to me.
I am not taking your word on any of it.
And the same applies to everyone on this board - just as it should to me as well.
Re: The R&D jobs are pretty much gone ...
This is an excerpt from an article from a week ago (June 9) located here:
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=11&ItemID=13025
It includes the following condensed paragraph:
'As always, a significant part of the defense bill is eaten up by these big-ticket items. According to the reputable Center for Arms Control and Nonproliferation...And that's not even including the Star Wars missile-defense system, which at the moment soaks up about $11 billion a year.'
And that is per year. Whether that means 100's of thousands or jobs in the military and private sector I do not know. But I willing to guess that an awful lot of people are being employed on NMD.
Right - not.
Or maybe that seemingly colossal ego of yours assumes that since you are not in it anymore (if you ever were at all) that they cannot be spending anymore on research and development.
This is an excerpt from an article from a week ago (June 9) located here:
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=11&ItemID=13025
It includes the following condensed paragraph:
'As always, a significant part of the defense bill is eaten up by these big-ticket items. According to the reputable Center for Arms Control and Nonproliferation...And that's not even including the Star Wars missile-defense system, which at the moment soaks up about $11 billion a year.'
And that is per year. Whether that means 100's of thousands or jobs in the military and private sector I do not know. But I willing to guess that an awful lot of people are being employed on NMD.
They are spending over $30 million dollars per day on Missile Defense and none of it is going to R&D?
Right - not.
Or maybe that seemingly colossal ego of yours assumes that since you are not in it anymore (if you ever were at all) that they cannot be spending anymore on research and development.
Re: The R&D jobs are pretty much gone ...
Great Post on a very important story,I would encourage everyone remotely interested to read the full article.I will just post one paragaph on the craziness of current defense spending.
"To a rational observer, such spending -- totaling more than $1 trillion in 2008, according to the figures I've just cited -- seems quite literally insane. During the Cold War, hawks scared Americans into tolerating staggering but somewhat lesser sums by invoking the specter of Soviet Communism. Does anyone, anywhere, truly believe that we need to spend more than a trillion dollars a year to defend ourselves against small bands of al-Qaeda fanatics?"
Great Post on a very important story,I would encourage everyone remotely interested to read the full article.I will just post one paragaph on the craziness of current defense spending.
"To a rational observer, such spending -- totaling more than $1 trillion in 2008, according to the figures I've just cited -- seems quite literally insane. During the Cold War, hawks scared Americans into tolerating staggering but somewhat lesser sums by invoking the specter of Soviet Communism. Does anyone, anywhere, truly believe that we need to spend more than a trillion dollars a year to defend ourselves against small bands of al-Qaeda fanatics?"
Now we're getting way off-topic!
I could go into the outrageous defense and pork/social spending of the US at this point. People also seemingly include all the pork attached to defense spending that is not defense, which happened during Vietnam as well.
And this has nothing to do with missile defense, of which most of the costs of missile defense were in the '90s. The R&D efforts, in total, of the BMDO JPO were only a few tens of billions. It's a true and 100% defensive system. And even by your own article, it is only going to cost $11 billion! That's nothing compared to other items.
How "missile defense" keeps getting lobbed in with offensive capabilities is beyond me. Except the fact that Russians like to use that for rhetoric, and prey upon the people -- like yourselves -- who don't realize that simple fact. People have abused this thread to talk about nothing that has to do with missile defense -- including offensive US operations or securing resources.
Missile defense is a paltry expense compared to everything else going on, and has nothing to do with securing anything -- other than protecting our allies and ourselves.
Also remove some of the pork attached to defense spending, I sure wish people would do that.
Please CLOSE this thread. We are well OFF-TOPIC now.
Your comments on whether or not Patriot even hit in the first Gulf War, as well as the assumptions that it doesn't work now, but may in the future.
Then don't ignorantly comment whether it works or not.
And we're getting more and more off-topic!
I could go into the outrageous defense and pork/social spending of the US at this point. People also seemingly include all the pork attached to defense spending that is not defense, which happened during Vietnam as well.
And this has nothing to do with missile defense, of which most of the costs of missile defense were in the '90s. The R&D efforts, in total, of the BMDO JPO were only a few tens of billions. It's a true and 100% defensive system. And even by your own article, it is only going to cost $11 billion! That's nothing compared to other items.
How "missile defense" keeps getting lobbed in with offensive capabilities is beyond me. Except the fact that Russians like to use that for rhetoric, and prey upon the people -- like yourselves -- who don't realize that simple fact. People have abused this thread to talk about nothing that has to do with missile defense -- including offensive US operations or securing resources.
Missile defense is a paltry expense compared to everything else going on, and has nothing to do with securing anything -- other than protecting our allies and ourselves.
I thought the article said $650 billion?
Adjust for the US GDP and current dollar value and it's more aligned with the Reagan administration.
Also remove some of the pork attached to defense spending, I sure wish people would do that.
Please CLOSE this thread. We are well OFF-TOPIC now.
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