Rigged Twistys Treat Of The Year Results

[saviourself]

I didn't know where else to post this, but has anyone been following the BS involving MindGeeks (the owners of Twistys.com) and the Treat Of The Year results?

If not, read this article: http://thereal******************/twistys-treat-year-contest-sparks-outrage/

But here's the short, short version:
Madison Ivy was booked to take the Costa Rica trip reserved for the TOTY winner and runner-up BEFORE the contest was held.
Vanessa Veracruz came in second in the vote, but because she doesn't do BG content, they weren't going to take her to Costa Rica.
Rather than recognizing Vanessa as the runner-up, they gave that title to Madison (who didn't even come in the Top 4 in the vote).
MindGeeks waited until Nicole Aniston (the winner) and Madison were already out of the country to make the announcement.
Rob (a key behind-the-scenes player at Twistys) quit as a result.
Twistys took down the link to their forum from their site.
Twistys banned everyone on the forum who so much as discussed the situation (including site founder Shap, models Brett Rossi, Elle Alexandra, and Jessi June, among others).

Vanessa was willing to accept her lumps and not go on the trip, but MindGeeks deciding to not recognize her as the runner-up, and recognize someone who wasn't anywhere close to winning as the runner-up, was the final straw. Twitter has been in an uproar every since. (If you want to follow Vanessa, her Twitter name is @MsVeracruzXXX.)

If this has been posted elsewhere or if it belongs in a different section, let me know. (Or moderators can move it. Doesn't matter to me.) I just want to make sure people know what's going on with this.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

Pffft. I'm more upset about Asshat of the year.

 

[saviourself]

That's ... a really helpful comment.

Look, it's clear that the owners of Twistys don't give two craps about the customers or the talents who make their site possible. I think people should know, so they know not to support that site.

 

[Philbert]

Way more drama than is relevant...some may care , but we mostly say hi and stuff.

You only came here to bring the dire news...I have no way of knowing how evil Twistys is, or how crazy you are...and have no real interest in any internal company business.

Sorry...
love the nekkid ladies, though! :wave2: Hi nekkid ladies.

 

[abejarano12]

Wow, Twisty is fucked up they screwed over everyone involved. Yes its fuck that talent got fucked over by to quickly take away the fans ability to dissent is worst.

 

[Mr_Stiffy]

Look, it's clear that the owners of Twistys don't give two craps about the customers or the talents who make their site possible. I think people should know, so they know not to support that site.

Did it cost the customers any money to vote in TOTY? I'm guessing not. In which case, who gives a toss? If you sign up for a Twistys membership you're basically looking for an exchange of your $ for a boatload of content of pretty ladies ; and that's what you get. Anyone who cancels their subs off the back of this clearly also doesn't give two craps about supporting the talent. Twitter has been in an uproar. Wow, that makes a change. They'll calm down once One Direction announce their next tour or a suitable kitten meme comes along.

Still, this is a damn sight more interesting than the barney about Madi's seemingly-never-happening anal scene for Brazzers. The way some of the special people have been complaining about that one, you'd think that one scene was all the membership fee was for. Clearly, everybody just wants to whine about Madison. She should go into exile. I'll come too, we'll find a nice island together.


P.S. I am owned by Manwin/MindGeeks. We all are. Deal with it.

 

[Mayhem]

Twisty's showing their Kenya-born, socialist, Sharia, pinko corrupt ways is just another day in the life. If Nurgle turns to the dark side, however, I'll know all is lost.

And I still think they're covering up what happened in Benghazi. ........ Benghazi, California. A floodlight shattered and a glass shard delivered a severe papercut to the left asscheek of a D-list porn performer with 23 aliases. The official story is that a key grip backed into the light stand, but I heard that a spilled latte was involved. Makes me wonder what else they're fuckin' lying about.

 

[Cobra67]

I see that it is being suggested that people cancel their Twistys memberships ... I could understand cancelling memberships if you get a refund, but do you? I think I would suggest not renewing if it meant not losing money. It is a shame about what has allegedly happened and if the rumour that Twistys is to move to b/g at the expense of g or g/g that would also be a shame. Is it correct that Elle Alexandra has said she'll not do any more Twistys shoots? That would be a blow, she has done some stunning shoots for them.

 

[Mr_Stiffy]

It is a shame about what has allegedly happened and if the rumour that Twistys is to move to b/g at the expense of g or g/g that would also be a shame.

I can't see that happening. They've already got Twistys Hard to provide some B/G content, and I imagine a company as big and diversified as Manwin/MindGeeks understands through their feedback/research that the Twistys proposition caters for a fanbase that could easily have a membership to Brazzers or RK if hardcore B/G was what mattered most to them, and that they choose Twistys because they want the high quality solo/lesbian content of beautiful models that don't necessarily want to shoot with cock.

 

[saviourself]

Elle was scheduled for a shoot with Twistys this weekend, but after voicing her support for Vanessa, Twistys canceled it. I doubt she will shoot with them again. Other than Vanessa (obviously), I don't know how many models are going to refuse to work for Twistys following this.

Twistys has recently severely cut back on their solo and g/g content (among making other changes, such as upping the price), has been slowly pushing more b/g content, and booked Mia Malkova (b/g) and male talent to do b/g shoots at the Treat of the Year Costa Rica trip before finding out if the winners were the girls who were open to doing b/g. The top four girls in the vote were Nicole, Vanessa, Elle, and Sophia Knight ... three of whom are strictly girl/girl performers, the one who wasn't (Nicole) had stopped doing b/g content. (Oh, on top of this, Nicole allegedly agreed to shoot b/g on the trip if Vanessa was allowed to come along and get her runner-up shoot. Funny how that worked out, eh?)

Also, according to Rob (the production manager who resigned in protest over this situation), MindGeeks has a new vice-president who is overseeing Twistys, and who does not care about solo and g/g content. So yes, Twistys may have had its niche before, but this VP is not interested in the site's traditional focus or the audience thereof.

As for the whole "who cares" crap ... I'm sorry, but do you understand that the models who actually do well in this are the ones who actively engage with their fans, the ones who form personal connections with the people voting for them? So, yes, as fans of the entertainers in question, we care. It's not just about "exchanging money for sexual gratification." As a moderator on a discussion board, I would think Mr_Stiffy would have more respect for the type of community that can form online. And the fact that MindGeeks banned everyone who so much as discussed the issue on the Twistys forum (showing that their opinions have absolutely no value) should be enough to get the users angry.

It also shouldn't matter that Twistys Treat of the Year contest is a service that comes with the price of membership. Do you realize that the models involved made huge pushes via social media to get people to sign up to Twistys and support them? So you think they don't have a right to be upset? "Hey, I joined to support someone in particular, but turns out I gave my money to a company that's going to pick their favorites anyway even though they claim it's actually decided by fan vote!"

Okay, so I've never actually posted on this board in the three-plus years I've been a member. Does this mean that when I post about an issue that I feel strongly about, I should be ridiculed and treated with disrespect? Is that the kind of community this is?

 

[Mr_Stiffy]

As a moderator on a discussion board, I would think Mr_Stiffy would have more respect for the type of community that can form online.

Don't fucking patronize me. "As a moderator on a discussion board" I make sure the rules aren't broken, that's about it. My own opinion about any topic posted is my opinion, and you're upset that I don't care about something that you do.

Okay, so I've never actually posted on this board in the three-plus years I've been a member. Does this mean that when I post about an issue that I feel strongly about, I should be ridiculed and treated with disrespect? Is that the kind of community this is?

Like it or not, the forum is populated by a wide variety of different posters who care about a variety of different things in different measures. Hell, some people claim they even signed up to this forum having no interest in porn at all. Some people are going to share your outrage at this particular issue. Some people aren't. Some people are going to read the title and not even bother opening it. Some people are going to read it, not care either way, and post some irreverent nonsense. No point getting so riled up just because people aren't responding the way you want them to yet.

I'm guessing most of the people that would be weighing in with solemn agreement about how horrible it is are probably still busy participating in the Twitter uproar of which you speak.

 

[bobjustbob]

Elle was scheduled for a shoot with Twistys this weekend, but after voicing her support for Vanessa, Twistys canceled it. I doubt she will shoot with them again. Other than Vanessa (obviously), I don't know how many models are going to refuse to work for Twistys following this.

Twistys has recently severely cut back on their solo and g/g content (among making other changes, such as upping the price), has been slowly pushing more b/g content, and booked Mia Malkova (b/g) and male talent to do b/g shoots at the Treat of the Year Costa Rica trip before finding out if the winners were the girls who were open to doing b/g. The top four girls in the vote were Nicole, Vanessa, Elle, and Sophia Knight ... three of whom are strictly girl/girl performers, the one who wasn't (Nicole) had stopped doing b/g content. (Oh, on top of this, Nicole allegedly agreed to shoot b/g on the trip if Vanessa was allowed to come along and get her runner-up shoot. Funny how that worked out, eh?)

Also, according to Rob (the production manager who resigned in protest over this situation), MindGeeks has a new vice-president who is overseeing Twistys, and who does not care about solo and g/g content. So yes, Twistys may have had its niche before, but this VP is not interested in the site's traditional focus or the audience thereof.

As for the whole "who cares" crap ... I'm sorry, but do you understand that the models who actually do well in this are the ones who actively engage with their fans, the ones who form personal connections with the people voting for them? So, yes, as fans of the entertainers in question, we care. It's not just about "exchanging money for sexual gratification." As a moderator on a discussion board, I would think Mr_Stiffy would have more respect for the type of community that can form online. And the fact that MindGeeks banned everyone who so much as discussed the issue on the Twistys forum (showing that their opinions have absolutely no value) should be enough to get the users angry.

It also shouldn't matter that Twistys Treat of the Year contest is a service that comes with the price of membership. Do you realize that the models involved made huge pushes via social media to get people to sign up to Twistys and support them? So you think they don't have a right to be upset? "Hey, I joined to support someone in particular, but turns out I gave my money to a company that's going to pick their favorites anyway even though they claim it's actually decided by fan vote!"

Okay, so I've never actually posted on this board in the three-plus years I've been a member. Does this mean that when I post about an issue that I feel strongly about, I should be ridiculed and treated with disrespect? Is that the kind of community this is?

You've said a lot and I only highlighted the points I want to address first. Believe it or not, subscribers ARE exchanging money for sexual gratification. Are they soliciting money from people purely based upon their sparkling personalities? I'd like to be in that kind of business. Send money to me just because you think I'm wonderful based upon a profile I've written. You're fooling yourself for thinking that and hat others are just as obsessed as you.

Secondly, there is no reason for any business to limit it's marketing or product. Any believed or perceived tradition of market should not block a company from growth. If I shop at a vegetarian market and they decide to add deli then I shouldn't consider myself frauded. If they build a wing to make it half meat half veg then why should I care what goes on in the other half of the building? Are you afraid that the company is taking away your g/g and solo models to do things you don't want to buy? Blame the models. If they're ready to suck dicks then they'll do it for anyone. Twisty would rather they do it for them. These models are not your property. The make their own decisions and sign their own contracts. I'll tell you what, everyone has their price. You and your other protesters pool your money to exclusivly contract your selected models to do only what you want.

 

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

Like it or not, the forum is populated by a wide variety of different posters who care about a variety of different things in different measures. Hell, some people claim they even signed up to this forum having no interest in porn at all.

I have a very, very narrow interest in porn. And I'm a moderator here. :dunno:

Actually, if you put a gun to my head I couldn't pick any of the people mentioned in the original post out of a crowd under threat of death. Hell, I think I only recognize two of their names (and I hedged that with "I think" not because I might know more but because it's entirely possible I've never heard of "Nicole Aniston" before and the name just rings a bell thanks to Brad Pitt's ex, bringing the count down to one). So yeah, it'd be borderline impossible for me to care. I guess I do in some very minor way, because I'm not overly fond of shady shenanigans in general (by the way, if I ever start a band I am totally calling it Shady Shenanigans™) but beyond that? Meh. It's no different than any other bit of Intarwebz drama and I'd rank it right up there with the latest gossip about Justin Bieber.

 

[Mr_Stiffy]

I have a very, very narrow interest in porn.

Very, very, very, very narrow. You signed up to kiss Harley's ring support Harley. That's fair enough.

 

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

Very, very, very, very narrow. You signed up to kiss Harley's ring support Harley. That's fair enough.

Yeah, pretty much. :dunno:

And now, despite having almost no use for 99.9% of what goes on with FreeOnes... I'm a mod. Which is odd, but since I'm a bit odd myself I guess it all makes some kind of weird sense.

Of course, since being here I've met some people in the Talk Section that I appreciate (ones who totally aren't even Harley ). So yeah, there's that too. The rest of the site though, the uh, pornier portions... not so much interested in them. Unless I'm doing something moderatory I tend not to leave this section since, well, meh.

 

[RASQ]

Okay, so I've never actually posted on this board in the three-plus years I've been a member. Does this mean that when I post about an issue that I feel strongly about, I should be ridiculed and treated with disrespect? Is that the kind of community this is?

Boo-ya! For someone who only posted three times in four years can go fuck themselves. You haven't contributed shit in four years and now that some shit company "played you" you want us to join your crusade, lol!

 

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

Very, very, very, very narrow. You signed up to kiss Harley's ring support Harley.

Also, little surprised you went with "ring"...

 

[saviourself]

Bobjustbob: "It's not just about..." does not deny that there is an exchange going on. It is saying that, at least to some people, there's more going on than just "I give you money, you give me videos of women doing stuff." I don't know where you got the idea that I was saying that wasn't the business. But the strongest service-industry businesses (the ones that build up the most loyal customer bases) are the ones where the workers build strong connections with the consumers. What MindGeeks did was they took advantage of that relationship, then used it to harm not only the customers but the workers as well in such a way that punishes the loyalty of the consumers. Tell me how that's a sound business practice.

Second, MindGeeks owns how many major porn sites? When you own a wide variety of sites, many of which have their own specific audiences, it is bad business to try to make all of the sites produce the same content (especially if you do so by alienating the existing audience). I'm not saying businesses shouldn't try to grow or diversify (heck, Twistys started producing b/g content under the original owner, Shap). But it makes no sense to turn Twistys into a carbon-copy of Brazzers if they already own Brazzers.

I'm not asking you all to care! But if you don't care, why are you posting in this thread? I wouldn't go into, let's use HappyHapyJoyJoy's example, a Justin Beiber gossip thread just to go after the person who posted it. (Okay, bad example, Justin Beiber fans deserve it.) If someone on this board is a fan of Vanessa Veracruz or Elle Alexandra or Jessi June or Sophia Knight or the other women affected by this, maybe they'd like to know. If someone on this board subscribes to Twistys but didn't know about the controversy, maybe they'd like to know. But that doesn't mean I should be lynched for having the gall to come onto your forum and post about it.

I'm sorry that me taking up a few bits of bandwidth on your precious forum to discuss an issue about which I had strong feelings offended you all. I wonder why I never posted on here before now ...

 

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

I'm not asking you all to care! But if you don't care, why are you posting in this thread? I wouldn't go into, let's use HappyHapyJoyJoy's example, a Justin Beiber gossip thread just to go after the person who posted it. (Okay, bad example, Justin Beiber fans deserve it.) If someone on this board is a fan of Vanessa Veracruz or Elle Alexandra or Jessi June or Sophia Knight or the other women affected by this, maybe they'd like to know. If someone on this board subscribes to Twistys but didn't know about the controversy, maybe they'd like to know. But that doesn't mean I should be lynched for having the gall to come onto your forum and post about it.

Here's the thing; You didn't create a fan thread, you created a news thread. This is industry gossip, and any thread about Justin Beiber gossip (or any kind of gossip really) is going to have as many (if not more) detractors as it does supporters. You can't expect this to be much different. That's kind of how threads like this work in an open forum. The fact is, no one was lynching you. No one was insulting nor aggressive. What people were, generally, was unmoved or nonplussed and you didn't like that so you decided to call a bunch of people out.

And I guess, for me the thing is this...

"Hey, I joined to support someone in particular, but turns out I gave my money to a company that's going to pick their favorites anyway even though they claim it's actually decided by fan vote!"

... when you join a site like that you aren't supporting anyone in particular, you're supporting that site. That's where your money is going. If you want to support a specific model you should probably look away from larger sites and more toward places like smaller self-run solo sites where the models themselves are selling you their content directly, or maybe some models' Amazon wishlists... something like that. When you sign up to someplace like Twistys you aren't giving your money to any particular model, you're just giving it to Twistys. That's the reality of it. That's who you're supporting, regardless of what your intent might have been.

If you sign up for a Twistys membership you're basically looking for an exchange of your $ for a boatload of content of pretty ladies ; and that's what you get.

Ultimately, Stiffy was right... You didn't sign up to a self-run solo site where you're supporting a specific model, you signed up to a large site that sells bulk content. If that wasn't your aim than you paid for the wrong membership.

 

[Red XXX]

Ahhh Shucks ;-)