Relationship advice anyone?

[Pretty_Lights]

So I've been wanting to get with this girl for a while. We meet at out painting classes every week. So I really noticed her and decided to ask her for her Facebook account. She gave it willingly enough. We started chatting but I'm not sure what to make of all this.
The way it goes is: I always chat first ( there was just one time when she said she would later ,because she was busy and she did later that evening). Depending on how the conversation is going she either chats very fast or takes a while and then just goes "cool" or "yes". I feel like I'm the only one trying anything. Now most of the girls here answered in my previous questions that girls like being texted first so i kept going. I invited her out but she rejected me saying she has a lot of studying to do. I was like "ok ok, i rushed it. We don't know each other that well, yet. I understand." So i waited.
Usually at the classes she wears headphones and doesn't speak a lot. I'm usually the big "joker" there and she always laughs a lot at my jokes and stuff. recently she started hanging around me and the other guys more and more , rather than the other girls, which she doesn't know that well. We go home together and talk. She's not shy or anything. She just looks like she doesn't give a ****. She has other friends but only a few she's close to and almost no guy friends. She really isn't an awkward nerd girl.
I thought, since it's been 2 months and she's obviously closer to me now I'd ask again. Inviting her this time to come with me to a "model drawing class" in an art school. But , alas, she denied again, saying that at this point she doesn't want to learn sketching and wants to pass. We kept on talking that evening with me , of course, desperately trying get keep the conversation going and she keep coming off-and-online. And responding with dull answers. I started getting very pissed off and said that I'm bored and I'd rather go play video games. She responded with " ;d, alright , I'm going to bed then, bye"
I feel like she doesn't care, but i REALLY REALLY like her. No other girl has made me so pissed off before. I think i like her so much that she drives me crazy with her indifference. If she doesn't like me why doesn't she just not answer me and block me off. Rather text me fast and talk to me to keep my hopes up only to reject me.
Now I'm think about stopping and moving on, but I don't want to bottle up my love and I want to tell her how I feel ,because I won't live it down if I don't.
My question is ... how do i tell her that I very much like her? Full on , without her being able to circle around it. I feel like she needs time and get to know me, but i need her to make an effort too, or it won't work.

Here is the question in Yahoo. But there I can't get more than 2-3 answers.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20140127142217AAA0o92

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

It's not a relationship. It's an acquaintance and you're reading too much into it. Back off or you're going to freak her out. You been friend zoned.

 

[Pretty_Lights]

True it's not a relationship, i didn't write that right. But are you sure I've been friend zoned. What makes you say that?

 

[bobjustbob]

First, forget about this Facebook shit. The 2 of you have regular face time together so no need to communicate in any other way. You asked her once and she didn't have the time. She didn't want the sketching either. If she had any interest she would have put up an alternative plan to be with you. Good bye to her. You did your part. Be her friend if you want but count on her being any kind of a date. Move on.

 

[DOA82]

It scares me you dont have the natural isntincts to be aware of the fact that this girl is not interested in you, so much so you started a question on yahoo answers and here. Because yeah, you chose the two best sources of advice on the internet.

You've been friendzoned, its been said before, leave the girl alone before you end up with a restraining order, or find out her family history when the brothers you dont know about rearrange your teeth.

 

[Pretty_Lights]

I needed this. I' ve moved on before and it's been easier, i guess i just fell in love this time or whatever.

Now that I look at it ...it is crazy i did all this, you can imagine how much i liked this girl

 

[288gto]

never tell a girl what you feel, they are evil.
if i was you i'd rather act cocky, and when you both are together don't ask her for her feelings, but try to let her know how badly you wanna bang her, so you escape the friendzone and go to the real path,if this doesn't function,then it's useless, no worries there are a lot girls bro

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never tell a girl what you feel, they are evil.
if i was you i'd rather act cocky, and when you both are together don't ask her for her feelings, but try to let her know how badly you wanna bang her, so you escape the friendzone and go to the real path,if this doesn't function,then it's useless, no worries there are a lot girls bro

 

[squallumz]

advice: stay away from faux forms of communication. this includes facebook, twitter, and, texting.

also, act like a badass. girls like that. if you have to eat a salad around one, always use your fingers.

 

[Harpsman]

I agree with bob & DOA. Maybe she's playing hard to get so maybe just tell her you fancy her and ask her straight up what she thinks of you.

PS: be prepared to be be disappointed and move on.

 

[Teddy X]

By the way im reading it, I say don't waste your time on her. K.I.M. (Keep It Moving) and don't even stress about it. Life is too short for that, real talk!

It's not a relationship. It's an acquaintance and you're reading too much into it. Back off or you're going to freak her out.

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By the way im reading it, I say don't waste your time on her. K.I.M. (Keep It Moving) and don't even stress about it. Life is too short for that, real talk!

It's not a relationship. It's an acquaintance and you're reading too much into it. Back off or you're going to freak her out.

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[Chopper3000]

Out of interest what medium of paint are you using? Water colours, acrylics or oil based?

 

[Pretty_Lights]

For some reason i feel super bad when i read this stuff. But when i read Harpsman's:

Maybe she's playing hard to get so maybe just tell her you fancy her and ask her straight up what she thinks of you.

Kinda made me feel better. Like there's still hope. God I'm pathetic. I need to write a song.

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For some reason i feel super bad when i read this stuff. But when i read Harpsman's:

Maybe she's playing hard to get so maybe just tell her you fancy her and ask her straight up what she thinks of you.

Kinda made me feel better. Like there's still hope. God I'm pathetic. I need to write a song.

 

[Harpsman]

PS: be prepared to be be disappointed and move on.

Remember that though.

 

[Pretty_Lights]

Out of interest what medium of paint are you using? Water colours, acrylics or oil based?

There we paint with watercolor. Which is a lot harder than you think. It's actually one of the hardest mediums for painting.
But on the other side I do digital painting too, as a concept artist at a game developing studio.

Quote Originally Posted by Harpsman View Post
PS: be prepared to be be disappointed and move on.
Remember that though.

I guess ,but then how do I stop thinking about her. We talked so much ,we connected (I guess) and i keep thinking "Oh this is so awesome , **** would like it so much." or "I can't wait to show her this, she'll love it". And she usually does.

 

[Pretty_Lights]

Also , I don't know if you guys have heard the phrase "So in love that you can't even jack off", but that's starting to be a problem too.

 

[Ace Bandage]

Also , I don't know if you guys have heard the phrase "So in love that you can't even jack off", but that's starting to be a problem too.

Nobody said that. Ever.

And you're not in love. You don't even know the girl. Your story is completely one sided. She doesn't feel anything towards you, and you're completely infatuated with her. She's not interested. Move the fuck on.

 

[Maggie Green]

I agree with what everyone here has said. When you asked her to do the sketching thing, if she was interested she would have said, " I'm not really into sketching but let's get a drink this weekend", or something like that. Hell, if she really was interested she would have said yes to the sketching even if she didn't care about it just to spend time with you. For now it's best to just keep her as a fun acquaintance to chat with in class and leave it at that. Good luck with another chica : )

 

[RASQ]

When a girl decides you're her friend, you're no longer a dating option. You become a complete non sexual entity in her eyes, like a brother or a lamp.

 

[Mr_Stiffy]

And you're not in love. You don't even know the girl. Your story is completely one sided. She doesn't feel anything towards you, and you're completely infatuated with her.

Nailed it.

"In love with" is the most outrageously devalued phrase in the modern language. There comes a point where you actually experience being in love with someone, and it's completely different to every time you idolized or became infatuated with somebody. It's more than that dizzy feeling when you're with someone or the thrill you get just from hearing their name, it's something completely indescribable, and you'll be embarrassed when you look back on the times you thought and maybe even told other people you were in love with somebody when it was only an infatuation. But hey, I won't come down on you too hard, Pretty_Lights, I was there too once or twice. That's what being young and foolish is like.

Also , I don't know if you guys have heard the phrase "So in love that you can't even jack off", but that's starting to be a problem too.

Oh.... then that's a pretty poor infatuation. I can't imagine being as snooker-loopy for a girl the way you sound you are even in my misbegotten youth if they weren't permanently causing an overload of work for my Joy Division.

When you asked her to do the sketching thing, if she was interested she would have said, " I'm not really into sketching but let's get a drink this weekend", or something like that. Hell, if she really was interested she would have said yes to the sketching even if she didn't care about it just to spend time with you.

Nailed it.

I feel compelled to point out, this rant isn't particularly directed at the OP -

I do think this "friendzone" thing is hilarious. It's a nice soppy way of spineless guys to describe their situation which is "shit-scared of rejection and convinced friendship is better than nothing." It isn't really, it's more trouble than it's worth. If you're into someone and it's causing you trouble, you're best to make the move and get shot down and get your closure or move on and stop seeing that person rather than carrying on. Staying friends with someone you want hurts you, and if they ever find out you've been interested the whole time, they can get weirded out and you lose the friendship in the end anyway, which hurts them too, because they've thought you were a genuine friend. One of my mates had one of his best friends of 18 years admit to him that she'd been in love with him the whole time, and it caused massive awkwardness between them, and now they haven't spoken for nearly a year. It isn't fair.

The flipside to the "friendzone" is the myth that once you've entered "the zone" i.e. become friends, nothing can happen. Well, that's bullshit, a strong friendship can be an excellent foundation for a relationship since friendship is based on similar values and interests and enjoying each others' company, which is a lot of what you look for in a partner. People can be friends for literally years then decide to take it to the next level. I've seen it plenty of times, it happened to my best mate, and it happened to myself. The key difference being, that's a situation where two people have shared a long-term, honest friendship, and one person or both has realized at a particular moment "you know what... this might just work out" and start looking at each other in that way, as opposed to one of them sitting there in self-pity for ages making goo-goo eyes wishing the other party felt the same fluttering that they did.

I like to remember at this time that the first time I heard the phrase "friendzone" was twenty years ago, used by a sitcom character with a "hump em dump em" attitude and the emotional age of a 14-year-old, dressing it up nicely for his paleontologist friend who was shit-scared of rejection and had left it too long because he thought friendship was better than nothing. I wince when adults use it to talk about their situation. Don't pine after someone you want and pretend they're your friend, make a move or move on. "The friendzone" is for teenagers who can't deal with rejection yet.

 

[Pretty_Lights]

You're right , you're right. Wow, dude.

When you asked her to do the sketching thing, if she was interested she would have said, " I'm not really into sketching but let's get a drink this weekend", or something like that. Hell, if she really was interested she would have said yes to the sketching even if she didn't care about it just to spend time with you.

That opened my eyes more than anything else. Girls have done this , gone to big lengths to be with me before , I don't know why I didn't see that not happening now. I'll get over her fast, i just need a new "target".

"In love with" is the most outrageously devalued phrase in the modern language. There comes a point where you actually experience being in love with someone, and it's completely different to every time you idolized or became infatuated with somebody. It's more than that dizzy feeling when you're with someone or the thrill you get just from hearing their name, it's something completely indescribable, and you'll be embarrassed when you look back on the times you thought and maybe even told other people you were in love with somebody when it was only an infatuation.

Sounds pretty good. I don't believe I've ever been in love then, with none of the girls I've ever been with. I hope it comes up sometime in my life.
Even though I'm barely 20 years old I feel like I'm running out of time.