Pro-life is Palin's agenda!

[Torre82]

I'm pro-choice.

Respect the freedom, forget your morality. Not to play patriotic-boy here, but.. that's what this country was built upon: The freedom to do whatever you want to do. The original founding fathers and many thereafter had no respect for religion NOR big government. They made it exceedingly clear that it's ABSOLUTELY important to respect our differences and give people a choice in their own lives whether you worship your own cock or a guy in the sky.

To quote Ben Franklin,

"Those who would give up essential liberties deserve neither liberty nor security"

I hate many things and many people's choices but it's my role as an American to allow you to do whatever the hell you want.

 

[ToastedOats]

I know there are plenty of palin threads in FO's LAND already but I can't stand palin or her policies, or for that matter anything about her! this is NOT a PRO palin thread!

Yes there are. Thanks for pointing this out. I think the democrats are shocked that McCain chose a woman. And a woman that isn't a freaking dike.

Palin and her pro-life beliefs! except in the case of rape?

No matter how noble or sincere PRO-LIFERS are in regards to there feelings are to nurture and protect a fetus's life that's respectable and kind hearted! and that's there opinion!

Yep.

But PRO-LIFE is VERY selfish when it comes to how its affecting the women who doesn't want to be pregnant let alone have a baby against her will!

$0.75 in a bathroom condom machine can prevent this. Where is the self control or responsibility? If you're old enough to fuck and have a kid, you're old enough to know better. Get it fucking right. Too bad your mom (yes, your mom Marlon) didn't get an abortion. Aren't you glad she chose life???

A women should not be forced to carry and commit 9 months of her life to have baby! period! regardless if the guy wants the baby, or PRO-LIFERS say she has to have the baby and give it up for adoption if she doesn't want a child!

Oh no, don't inconvenience someone for choosing not to make a wise decision! Don't make someone reap what they sow. No that's not fair to the woman to make her responsible for her actions.

In today's society, it seems that more and more people are not wanting to be responsible for their actions. If you get a girl pregnant, you're responsible for that child too.

Who's life is altered, affected, changed, for 9 months? the women's!

You know, if you could use punctuation properly and correctly spell, your argument would be lent a little more credence, but you're an idiot. The father's life is changed, the new baby, the parents of the girl and guy who got pregnant and so on. More than just the WOMAN'S life is altered.

What if the girls in school? what if she has a job she can't and doesn't want to take time off to have a baby? because she doesn't want a baby! it should be the WOMEN'S CHOICE under any and all circumstance's!

If pro-lifers were in the same situation or actually thought about the women's life and not the fetus which commands 9 months of the women's life and sacrifice to be born! PRO-LIFERS, are PRO SELFISH!! people who want to play god with women's lives!! they have no respect for women's feelings, her body, or her life!!

How is it selfish to want the new baby to have a chance at life? OH NO! 9 months, that's like a lifetime right? Wrong. Its nine fucking months and then you squirt the baby out and give it up for adoption or keep it. Then someone wasn't killed either. Pro Choice is selfish, or should I say, PRO DEATH. If you get pregnant, you are no longer able to dictate what goes on, you must think about the baby inside. Not such a sacrifice. Too bad your mom didn't get an abortion. I wouldn't be here right now if she had. Damn pro lifers...you should really yell at your mom for being inconvenienced for so long. She should have just taken the easy way out and had you vacuumed out through her nasty snatch.

Yes everybody has the right to their opinions and are allowed to voice them! but are PRO-LIFERS living that women's life? are they (the PRO-LIFERS) being forced to do something against their will! :nono: so yeah :yinyang: but its the women's life!

So why is having a PRO LIFE view not as valid as your PRO DEATH view?

HER LIFE IS HER CHOICE, WOMEN SHOULD HAVE AND MAINTAIN HER RIGHTS, AND HER CHOICE TO DECIDE WHETHER TO HAVE A BABY OR NOT!!

AND THAT SHOULD BE A NATURAL AND UNQUESTIONED DECISION FOR WOMEN TOO HAVE AND MAKE FOR THEMSELVES!

WITHOUT ANY INTERFERENCE FROM THE LAW OR ANYONE OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S ATTEMPTING TO RAPE HER (THE WOMEN) OF HER RIGHTS TO DO AS SHE WISHES, AND NOT BE FORCED TO DO ANYTHING SHE DOES NOT WANT TO DO OR DEAL WITH! :hatsoff:

She lost the right when she got pregnant. She is responsible for what is inside of her.

You sound like a lunatic. You can't spell, use proper punctuation or decent conjunctions. What prompted this rant? You sound like the poster child for abortion. Its too bad your mom can't get a retroactive abortion. You're friggin' nuts and probably friggin' way left winger Gloria Steinem worshiper. Does she anally dildo you every morning and make you spout feminist bullshit?:hatsoff:

I'm pro-choice.

Respect the freedom, forget your morality. Not to play patriotic-boy here, but.. that's what this country was built upon: The freedom to do whatever you want to do. The original founding fathers and many thereafter had no respect for religion NOR big government. They made it exceedingly clear that it's ABSOLUTELY important to respect our differences and give people a choice in their own lives whether you worship your own cock or a guy in the sky.

To quote Ben Franklin,

"Those who would give up essential liberties deserve neither liberty nor security"

I hate many things and many people's choices but it's my role as an American to allow you to do whatever the hell you want.

I too am pro choice, but am pro life and giving the kid up for adoption. Its sad that kids/pregnancies are seen as a burden rather than a gift and a blessing.

I don't want to be told what to do with my body by the government, so how can I say that about pregnancies? Sounds hypocritical by what I posted above, but I believe that the kid should be born and given up for adoption if it seems that it won't work out for the parents. Don't just scramble the kid's brain with a coat hanger and rip it out of the cooter.

 

[bodie54]

Too bad your mom (yes, your mom Marlon) didn't get an abortion. Aren't you glad she chose life???

If she'd chosen abortion Marlo wouldn't know any different nor have any regrets because he'd have never existed.

Too bad your mom didn't get an abortion. I wouldn't be here right now if she had.

So then your Marlo's brother? wow. small world.
But you really shouldn't wish you'd been aborted.

 

[BlueBalls]

A family that preys together stays together, you should all know that by now.

 

[Friday on my mind]

Let me take a stand that no one else seems to be willing to.Not only am I pro-choice, I am pro-abortion.Once promoting population growth may have been good for the human race but when you are at almost 7 billion and the trend is almost straight up with population growth(9 billion by 2050 but don't bet on that happening before catastrophe strikes to prevent it) it is now clear the planet cannot sustain such a population very long.Now go ahead and tell me how life is a gift from god and we need to encourage women to have a baby every time they get pregnant.You would have to beleive in god to support such, as only a miracle and divine intervention could somehow make the popualtion we have now sustainable much less more growth in it.:bowdown:

 

[BlueBalls]

^^^ I took a stand but it was in one of the other abortion threads started about a month ago, I didnt want to post my view again, for what must be the 6th time, because I didnt want to become repetitive.


Just to let everyone know I'm pro abortion. No one has the right to tell a woman what she can and cant do with her own body and if she doesnt want a baby growing inside her like a tumor then she has every right to get rid of it. I dont think the father has any right to dictate his views on the situation because they are not going to be carrying it. And those religious folks are just missguided fools and hypocrits who seem to have nothing better to do and would rather kill abortion doctors instead of letting a couple cells be vacumed out of the womb. Now thats christianity for you.

 

[Marlo Manson]

Yes there are. Thanks for pointing this out. I think the democrats are shocked that McCain chose a woman. And a woman that isn't a freaking dike.



Yep.



$0.75 in a bathroom condom machine can prevent this. Where is the self control or responsibility? If you're old enough to fuck and have a kid, you're old enough to know better. Get it fucking right. Too bad your mom (yes, your mom Marlon) didn't get an abortion. Aren't you glad she chose life???


Oh no, don't inconvenience someone for choosing not to make a wise decision! Don't make someone reap what they sow. No that's not fair to the woman to make her responsible for her actions.

In today's society, it seems that more and more people are not wanting to be responsible for their actions. If you get a girl pregnant, you're responsible for that child too.



You know, if you could use punctuation properly and correctly spell, your argument would be lent a little more credence, but you're an idiot. The father's life is changed, the new baby, the parents of the girl and guy who got pregnant and so on. More than just the WOMAN'S life is altered.

What if the girls in school? what if she has a job she can't and doesn't want to take time off to have a baby? because she doesn't want a baby! it should be the WOMEN'S CHOICE under any and all circumstance's!



How is it selfish to want the new baby to have a chance at life? OH NO! 9 months, that's like a lifetime right? Wrong. Its nine fucking months and then you squirt the baby out and give it up for adoption or keep it. Then someone wasn't killed either. Pro Choice is selfish, or should I say, PRO DEATH. If you get pregnant, you are no longer able to dictate what goes on, you must think about the baby inside. Not such a sacrifice. Too bad your mom didn't get an abortion. I wouldn't be here right now if she had. Damn pro lifers...you should really yell at your mom for being inconvenienced for so long. She should have just taken the easy way out and had you vacuumed out through her nasty snatch.



So why is having a PRO LIFE view not as valid as your PRO DEATH view?



She lost the right when she got pregnant. She is responsible for what is inside of her.

You sound like a lunatic. You can't spell, use proper punctuation or decent conjunctions. What prompted this rant? You sound like the poster child for abortion. Its too bad your mom can't get a retroactive abortion. You're friggin' nuts and probably friggin' way left winger Gloria Steinem worshiper. Does she anally dildo you every morning and make you spout feminist bullshit?hatsoff:



I too am pro choice, but am pro life and giving the kid up for adoption. Its sad that kids/pregnancies are seen as a burden rather than a gift and a blessing.

I don't want to be told what to do with my body by the government, so how can I say that about pregnancies? Sounds hypocritical by what I posted above, but I believe that the kid should be born and given up for adoption if it seems that it won't work out for the parents. Don't just scramble the kid's brain with a coat hanger and rip it out of the cooter.

You didn't have to attack me and especially not my mother to give your opinion! but thanx for your selfish sexist opinions and its because of FUCKTARDS like you who don't realize that its not a baby when its being aborted its a fertilized egg, thats not alive yet. and wouldn't no know or feel anything to begin with, your fuckin brilliant aren't you? but you would already know this and take that into consideration before saying the women is killing a baby! duh its not alive yet!

You may be smart/intelligent but you don't act or speak like you are.. if the female doesn't want to be pregnant or commit to carrying that baby for 9 months its her body, her choice, your a selfish sexist that expects women to have children, they don't want a child, against her will!

My mother having an abortion! yeah it would have been fine with me! because first off I wouldn't know it! and on top of that, I wouldn't have had to suffer my whole life because of blowhards mental midgets like yourself! and get dumbed down having to read and respond to your dim witted narrow minded sexist opinions and viewpoints that you spew without any regard for a women's feelings and rights she should have and exercise without having to answer to what sounds like the epitome of the male superiority mentality considering your not the one pregnant with an unwanted baby to be, human to be, its a fertilized egg @ the time of abortion, your very limited in seeing through and understanding the women's POV. rolleyes:

I spell check my posts and for the most part spell correctly myself! and as far as my punctuation and conjunction it didn't look to far off from your sentence structures and punctuation. rolleyes:

No matter how the women got pregnant she should have the right to decide if she wants to have that baby or not! regardless of your dim-witted expectations, viewpoints or opinion of the matter your not the person who has to commit 9 months of gaining weight, morning sickness, sacrificing everything in your life to squirt out a healthy baby! does the guy have to quit smoking if she does!, quit drinking if she does? your an ignorant fuck.. do you or any other guy have to experience or make those sacrifices to your life for that women to carry a baby full term? NO!! so thats my point you clueless dumbass ass-cracker!

Your the epitome of exhibiting intelligence and excellent manners talking about somebodies mother and her nasty snatch like you did. thats real classy. do you kiss your mother with that sarcastic, idiotic, spastic, foul, rude, low-class, yap trap, pie hole of yours! its apparent that you have such little class you would resort to referencing my mother and attacking her, it also shows your a coward ie- spewing computer if you had the nuts to say that in my face you would either be dead, or severely limited as to what you could remember and comprehend after ignorantly saying that to me face to face. you my friend wouldn't be able to remember your name.

I am sure 95% - 99% of the male population would do the same if you said such a thing about anybodies mother, so don't kid yourself and paint me as crazed lunatic, or some kind of animal, when a retarded peckerwood (that would be you) says something like that you have big balls or mentally challenged? which are you? doesn't matter. you would have been maimed for life either way if you said that to my face. don't you ever insult my intelligence and or insult my mother like you did again on this thread or any other post you make in reference to me. your a pathetic low-class dipshit!!

I never personally attacked you, did I? nor do I know you, so what gives you the right to attack me and my mother as you did? I write my opinions and if you don't agree, you can civilly tell me without attacking me, or my mother who had nothing to do with the issue aside from the fact that she wasn't forced too be pregnant or decide to have my crazy ass! so if you can't do that! GO FINGER #### YOURSELF!! you pathetic online blowhard brave hearts make me sick! :thefinger

 

[meesterperfect]

Are you hung up? Are you hung up?

You are unbelievable and this will be the last time I respond to you.
One thing is you don't mind calling people names but if someone responds even half as rudely as you do you get really really nasty.
Ok
Also, you didn't like him using you as an example, that really set you off.
But his point was valid, you just didn't like thinking about it in that context, and you resonded like a typical super-lib normally does

 

[Jason z]

Just imagine what the fucking supreme court would look like if we elected another Pro-life republican like John McCain. The stupid fuckers woud probally over turn Roe v. Wade.

 

[Marlo Manson]

Are you hung up? Are you hung up?

You are unbelievable and this will be the last time I respond to you.
One thing is you don't mind calling people names but if someone responds even half as rudely as you do you get really really nasty.
Ok
Also, you didn't like him using you as an example, that really set you off.
But his point was valid, you just didn't like thinking about it in that context, and you resonded like a typical super-lib normally does

I don't care what his opinions are, what he believes, or what he insults ME about but to attack my mother? quite unceccessary!! and its too bad you won't respond to this since you have your ignoring blinders on!

He didn't have to insult or attack me to make his points! and who and when and when do I attack anybody? ONLY AFTER SOMEBODY ATTACKS ME AND IS NASTY TO ME AND TREATS ME RUDELY! as you say! I am a MESSAGEBOARD counter puncher? I am never nasty or rude until I've been treated that way by whomever I am being nasty or rude too, so in your opinion I am supposed to idely take and absorb somebodies insults, nastiness, and rudeness, despite I was never rude to them in the 1st place?

and the fact he wrote with absolutely no class becaue he insulted me while attacking me, that I don't let him know about himself and his opinions? sure he has his right to his opinion, but DID I ATTACK HIM BEFORE HE ATTACKED ME, DID I INSULT HIM BEFORE HE INSULTED ME? DID I EVER I ATTACK HIS MOTHER? EVEN AFTER HE INSULTED MINE? NO I DID NOT, NOT @ ALL!! he made valid points and arguments given what he values and beliefs he has, and I thank him for his great opinions but to visiously attack me and my mother was totally uncalled for regardless how irrate or strong he disagreed with my views and opinions. so if you can't see or understand my angst sometimes read and absorb the posters tone, nastiness, and rudeness they attack me with before you critisize my replies.

 

[Jason z]

Are you hung up? Are you hung up?

You are unbelievable and this will be the last time I respond to you.
One thing is you don't mind calling people names but if someone responds even half as rudely as you do you get really really nasty.
Ok
Also, you didn't like him using you as an example, that really set you off.
But his point was valid, you just didn't like thinking about it in that context, and you resonded like a typical super-lib normally does

The Fact of the matter is that both religions christianity and Jewish both say that life doesn't begin until first breath, not at conception. So I don't understand why all these insane right wingers think life begins at conception? Whats fucking retarded is that Palin is against sex-ed in schools but she is for abstinence which doesn't work at all. Makes no God damn sense what so ever?

 

[Friday on my mind]

The Fact of the matter is that both religions christianity and Jewish both say that life doesn't begin until first breath, not at conception. So I don't understand why all these insane right wingers think life begins at conception? Whats fucking retarded is that Palin is against sex-ed in schools but she is for abstinence which doesn't work at all. Makes no God damn sense what so ever?

Her being against sex-ed and being in favor of abstinence only teaching is why her 17 yr old daughter being pregnant was a legitimate issue.Sex-ed and availability of contraceptives are much more effective Sarah!

 

[bodie54]

But his point was valid, you just didn't like thinking about it in that context, and you resonded like a typical super-lib normally does

Aw c'mon Mr P.
I hardly think this is political.
How would you feel if somebody talked about your mother this way:

Damn pro lifers...you should really yell at your mom for being inconvenienced for so long. She should have just taken the easy way out and had you vacuumed out through her nasty snatch.

 

[Facetious]

Let me take a stand that no one else seems to be willing to.Not only am I pro-choice, I am pro-abortion.

But you reserve the right to attack the former ? Why don't you place an asterisk next to that ?

Now go ahead and tell me how life is a gift from god and we need to encourage women to have a baby every time they get pregnant.You would have to beleive in god to support such, as only a miracle and divine intervention could somehow make the popualtion we have now sustainable much less more growth in it.

We know your position on this matter already, ad nauseam !

I'd recommend that you visit somebody with high speed internet, that way, you could view the US of A from coast to coast and show me that 90 % (+/- 1 to 2% margin of error) of it isn't largely unpopulated, undeveloped, yet fertile landscape.

Heavy handed governmental regulation is the reason as to why things may not appear as "sustainable". Now I'm not suggesting that we gobble up our natural resources, but let's get our shit together and join the ranks of Japan, France, Germany, China, IRAN !!, create jobs and break ground on about 2 dozen nuclear power plants !
Thank you democratic party for impeding our ability to have built them a decade or two ago !

Real "progressive" there
:hammer:

 

[bodie54]

:hammer:

LOL @ the gifs

 

[ToastedOats]

Her being against sex-ed and being in favor of abstinence only teaching is why her 17 yr old daughter being pregnant was a legitimate issue.Sex-ed and availability of contraceptives are much more effective Sarah!

I think her sex ed policies are way out of whack. Teenagers are going to have sex regardless of what you tell them. Her daughter is PROOF that it isn't the best. The best way would be abstinence first and then have a solid base as to what you can do if you choose to have sex so you don't have a kid at 17 and make your mom look like an ass.

The only selfish person in this is the mother who doesn't want to take responsibility for her actions and abort a fetus-regardless if you think its alive or not. It will eventually be walking amongst us.

So then your Marlo's brother? wow. small world.
But you really shouldn't wish you'd been aborted.

I was saying I would not be here because I would not be posting because his rant would not be here because he'd be in some landfill for medical waste because his mom chose the easy and convenient way out. I would not be responding due to the fact that he would not be here to be all crazy like.:2 cents:

 

[ChefChiTown]

I think her sex ed policies are way out of whack. Teenagers are going to have sex regardless of what you tell them. Her daughter is PROOF that it isn't the best. The best way would be abstinence first and then have a solid base as to what you can do if you choose to have sex so you don't have a kid at 17 and make your mom look like an ass.

Exactly!!! :thumbsup:

Teaching abstinence is an unrealistic pipe dream, especially in today's day and age. By the time I was a senior in high school, I honestly didn't really know anybody that was still a virgin.

Plus, as a mother, shouldn't she realize that 99% of the time when she tells her kids "no"...they'll do it anyway?

 

[ToastedOats]

Once promoting population growth may have been good for the human race but when you are at almost 7 billion and the trend is almost straight up with population growth(9 billion by 2050 but don't bet on that happening before catastrophe strikes to prevent it) it is now clear the planet cannot sustain such a population very long.

Preach it to India and China. Those countries need to get it under control. The US has a very low population density compared to many developed western nations.

We need to stop encouraging countries to grow by giving them food from our own country. Food=more babies=a need for more food=more babies.

 

[Friday on my mind]

But you reserve the right to attack the former ? Why don't you place an asterisk next to that ?


We know your position on this matter already, ad nauseam !

I'd recommend that you visit somebody with high speed internet, that way, you could view the US of A from coast to coast and show me that 90 % (+/- 1 to 2% margin of error) of it isn't largely unpopulated, undeveloped, yet fertile landscape.

Heavy handed governmental regulation is the reason as to why things may not appear as "sustainable". Now I'm not suggesting that we gobble up our natural resources, but let's get our shit together and join the ranks of Japan, France, Germany, China, IRAN !!, create jobs and break ground on about 2 dozen nuclear power plants !
Thank you democratic party for impeding our ability to have built them a decade or two ago !

Real "progressive" there

Ahh since you know my position ad nauseum you would know it has nothing to do with govt's making anything unsustainable.Its about a population the world cannot sustain under any scenario.The web site I use so often in case you need it.
http://www.worldpopulationbalance.org/index.php

And in response to your point on how unpopulated the US is I would point out that as the site shows the developed nations are living a much more unsustainable and damaging lifestyle with the high consumption rates they have.In other words one american has as much impact as a hundreds even thousands of people in many of the undeveloped nations.
But on the nukes I totally agree and will even concede dems were part of the problem but it was not just them.Most americans were frightened off of nukes by 3 mile island and the "China syndrome".Some republicans said they wanted more nukes but were not willing to push it very hard as it was a political loser and no one in eitheir party at the national level wanted to piss off Nevada and push the waste disposal site that was going to be located there.Nuclear and wind wtg,forget the silly drill,drill,drill stuff.

Oh and are you saying its actually possible what the Iranians are up to is really a nuclear program to generate power?:dunno:

 

[E-Ann-Hilden]

Always a hot topic! I am pro-choice on 2 accounts. 1st The U.S. Surpreme Court allows it and they are the highest authority of law, I live under in this country.

2nd The law gives women a choice, no one is telling you to have one, but you have the option too.

I do not care for others having their moral opinions thrust on any other American.