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It's almost like gladyator joined Free Ones just in time to witness Fisher be crowned Asshat of the Year, and decided, "Hey, I've gotta get a head start if I'm gonna win me that award next year!"

What a total fucking moron.
 
Ines Cudna and her mom in the same video

She certainly took after her mother concerning her boobs. ( Ona na pewno wziął po matce o jej cycki, wow )

We need to build a pipeline under the Atlantic and get some of that fortified Chernobyl fall out water over here for the ladies to drink. :boobies::boobies: Viva la polski boobs!
 
Rey C, ApolloBalboa and HappyHapyJoyJoy,

If you don't like this thread you can go away. I'm fed up with your bullshits and your swearwords!
I've watched too many documentaries about porn, some of them were documentary series. yes you can be sure but I don't need to give you a list. By the way, their issues are not about the children, their issues are about pornstars and their relationships. if their relationships are like this, we can easily understand their careless behaviours about their children. I already gave you too many examples: Tiffany Mynx, Octamom, Haley Cummings (pregnant pornstar), Janet Mason...

P.S: Rey C, don't send me p.m anymore! Enough!

Look, we are not talking about divorces and marriage. Althought there are millions of divorced couple, we focus on something here.
For example, if we focus on effects of narcotic on parents and their children. Some of them would say: Yes but, not all the parents are like this. So I tell you, not all the parents are like this. There can be many bad examples, but in this thread, I take up one point. You can discuss the others in any forum thread.
By the way, 3-4 people here, too angry with me? Why? Are they children of pornstars?

You brought it up yourself, so it's fair to get into it. Also, if you want to discuss a small group, it's always wise to look at the bigger picture first.

Some of porn documentaries I watched:

Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends - Porn

Diary of a Porn Virgin

Pornucopia (6 episode)

Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends - Porn

This episode offers a look at very different sides of the porn industry, as Louis interviews both male and female porn stars. He reveals the problems a lot of porn actors face, be it not getting a job in straight porn and therefore having to do gay porn, or not getting an erection when it is needed.

Not really what we're discussing, is it?

Diary of a Porn Virgin

One of the 2 girls can't really get much of a job because she won't do girl-girl, anal or shoot during her period (I can understand the last one). So her options are limited.

The only problem Sahara has, according to the show, is that she might have hurt her parents, because they & their religion (they're muslim, but the same would apply to hardcore Christians) do not agree with her carreer choice.

Once again, not really what we're discussing, is it?

Pornucopia

Haven't seen the show, but considering the other 2 you mentioned aren't really on topic, I'm gonna assume it's the same in this case as well.


You're entitled to an opinion, but if you post your opinion on a public message board, there will be people who disagree.

If a child watch porn that is wrong.

Societies may say it's wrong, but we've all done it & we're all healthy human beings. I still don't get why violence is allowed (GI Joe, the Transformers, the Pizza Cats, even Eek the Cat has violence in it) and sex isn't, but that's an entirely different discussion.

a child watch her mother porn, that's terrible.

How old do you think a kid is before he/she starts watching porn? 12? 15?
How old is the oldest porn you've ever watched? 5 years old? 6 years old?
When do the girls usually quit? when they're 24? 25? 26? 27? in some cases maybe 30?
What's the median age at which women have children?

Mean Age of Women at Birth of First Child in 2009 and 2010

Czech Republic 27.4 27.6
Hungary 27.9 28.2
Poland 26.3 26.6
Romania 25.6 26.0
Russian Federation 24.6 ..
Slovakia 27.0 27.3
Ukraine 25.9 25.8
United States 25.4 ..

So, even if a woman who lives in the US and has a kid when she's 25 years old, continues doing porn until she's 30 years old, the chances of the child being able to find his mother when he's 12 are very slim. The older he gets, the less chance there is that there's still stuff of her on the net.

Besides, he still has to recognise his mom. Keep in mind that if a look-alike of your mother when she was in her 20s bumps into you, you won't recognise her as a lookalike of your mom, simply because you don't even know what your mom looked like when she was in her 20s. (& I'm not even considering the fact that a lot of girls in the industry wear heavy glamour make-up which they do not wear when they're at home).

http://w3.unece.org/pxweb/dialog/va...&ti=Mean+age+of+women+at+birth+of+first+child
 

gladyator89

Banned
Loudly? Well have you written your government, protested at porn studios, their awards shows, paid to have billboards across your city, etc.,? What are you doing about it besides posting here in this thread? Are you involved actively with other child abuse situations and organizations trying to help them and those children that are not related to porn? Do you make donations and volunteer for this cause? Child abuse is child abuse, are you concerned enough to get involved besides just making your posts here in this thread? What are you doing, how loud are you?

How do you know that I don't do anything for child abuse and some actions against these situations? Do you think that I only write on this forum?
Don't judge too early.
 

gladyator89

Banned
Oh my gawd, congratulations for being the stupidest poster I've ever seen on a forum.

CHILD ABUSE?! Having sex when pregnant is child abuse?!?! Or only if you're a porn star?!
There is no amount of logic that will help you, you are a lost cause. Ignorance abounds.

Every time someone presents a logical argument, you just change the subject to something else completely illogical.
Some people are shitty parents and expose their kids to the wrong thing, the assumption that porn stars are more guilty of this is unfounded and ridiculous.
These are women providing for their families and doing what makes them happy.

Fucking hell.
This is the stupidest thread I've ever seen in my entire life.

If you did ignore this thread? So why did you write and try to tell something? Just ignore. This is the stupidest thing I've ever seen in this forum.
Bye bye.
 
Ooh... last time I checked it still was a bannable offense to insult an OSCM & I'll let the mods/admins decide, but calling a post made by an OSCM the stupidest thing & essentially telling her to fuck off is an insult in my book. So... post reported. (I'm not a mod, so if they decide otherwise, so be it...)
 
It's not about the thread, which, IMHO can/should stay open. It's the way the OP responds that can be considered insulting.

Telling someone to leave on a public message board isn't really nice, especially when that someone happens to be an OCSM.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Rey C, ApolloBalboa and HappyHapyJoyJoy,

If you don't like this thread you can go away. I'm fed up with your bullshits and your swearwords!
I've watched too many documentaries about porn, some of them were documentary series. yes you can be sure but I don't need to give you a list. By the way, their issues are not about the children, their issues are about pornstars and their relationships. if their relationships are like this, we can easily understand their careless behaviours about their children. I already gave you too many examples: Tiffany Mynx, Octamom, Haley Cummings (pregnant pornstar), Janet Mason...

P.S: Rey C, don't send me p.m anymore! Enough!


No, I won't go away. If you don't like my replies then don't read them. And just to make sure you understand that, I'm sending that sentiment to you in a PM. :) You shouldn't send me PMs if you don't want to receive them from me, Zippy. How dumb are you, anyway??? Pretty dumb, huh? :yesyes:

P.S. So you don't like my swear words, eh? Fuck, fuck, fuckity, fuck, fuck! Shit! Asswipe! Damn! Horse cock! Donkey balls! Camel nuts!
 
You can't turn off the children. If you are against child abuse, you must tell it loudly. Not to see, is not the solution.

Loudly? Well have you written your government, protested at porn studios, their awards shows, paid to have billboards across your city, etc.,? What are you doing about it besides posting here in this thread? Are you involved actively with other child abuse situations and organizations trying to help them and those children that are not related to porn? Do you make donations and volunteer for this cause? Child abuse is child abuse, are you concerned enough to get involved besides just making your posts here in this thread? What are you doing, how loud are you?

How do you know that I don't do anything for child abuse and some actions against these situations? Do you think that I only write on this forum? Don't judge too early.

Look at the sequence of discussion, I was asking you a question, which you did not answer. I don't know, thus I was asking. I will assume no since you made effort to respond but had no feedback/effort on the actual question asked. You're welcome to clarify. Also judging and me simply asking you a question are quite different.
 
Ooh... last time I checked it still was a bannable offense to insult an OSCM & I'll let the mods/admins decide, but calling a post made by an OSCM the stupidest thing & essentially telling her to fuck off is an insult in my book. So... post reported. (I'm not a mod, so if they decide otherwise, so be it...)

I'm usually the first mod to leap to the defense on our OCSM's. Other mods and even the admins let members get away with a lot more flaming the OCSM's than I do!

In this case, I don't see a problem. He did not tell her to fuck off, nor did he use any kind of profanity.

If you go back and read her post and his, you'll see that hers is more insulting.

Also, if/when you post in the Talk section, you better expect someone to give you some shit for your opinions. Even if you are an OCSM.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Ooh... last time I checked it still was a bannable offense to insult an OSCM & I'll let the mods/admins decide, but calling a post made by an OSCM the stupidest thing & essentially telling her to fuck off is an insult in my book. So... post reported. (I'm not a mod, so if they decide otherwise, so be it...)

Nothing will happen. I reported a post where some jerk-off told an OCSM, in her own Babe thread, that she was so ugly that she looked like a horse. Nothing happened. Dead silence. Crickets chirped. Under the old rules, insulting OCSMs was not allowed. But under these new rules, not only can they be insulted, there's even a Free Punch rule. Yeah, you can hit them - though not in the face and only one time. And let's be honest, for a fellow like our lil buddy, Gladys-hate-her, the thought of punching a woman probably gives him a massive boner.

I guess it's that new world order, FreeOnes style.
 
Nothing will happen. I reported a post where some jerk-off told an OCSM, in her own Babe thread, that she was so ugly that she looked like a horse. Nothing happened. Dead silence. Crickets chirped.
I never saw that report. If I had, I definitely would have intervened.


Under the old rules, insulting OCSMs was not allowed. But under these new rules, not only can they be insulted, there's even a Free Punch rule. Yeah, you can hit them - though not in the face and only one time. And let's be honest, for a fellow like our lil buddy, Gladys-hate-her, the thought of punching a woman probably gives him a massive boner. I guess it's that new world order, FreeOnes style.
As for rule changes in regards to the OCSM's, there really wasn't any changes, just a memo that we be fair and use common sense. The problem was a couple of the OCSM's started acting like trolls to certain members, and when those members didn't back down, those OCSM's cried foul and reported them. What they failed to understand is that when you act like an ass, people will treat you like an ass, not kiss your ass just because you're a celebrity.
 
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gladyator89

Banned
You know, I'd reply to this but I don't even know what the Hell you're saying. English isn't your first language, I understand that, but if you want to have a conversation in it you're going to need to order your thoughts better.



Well, I just found Diary of a Porn Virgin and Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends online and flipped through them. From what I saw DoaPV seems to follow two single and childless women and focus more on the job than their personal lives. LTWW seemed to follow Louis and his attempt to do porn. Mostly you just see a few short conversations with people from the adult industry, most of the ones I saw were with the men, and few really tried to delve deeply into their personal lives. I didn't see any depictions of anyone being a poor mother, nor anyone even discussing motherhood.

Admittedly I flipped through them, I don't have the time to sit down and watch them right now, but I did watch a fair amount of each and skipped ahead in short bursts throughout both entire pieces and yet, in both, I didn't really see much involving anyone's personal relationships, and absolutely zero children.

Guess I must have missed all of "child abuse" you apparently think was in them?

Then you musn't flipped through them. You must watch it if you want to talk about them. Plus, you must watch Pornucopia as well.
As I said before, there are no spesific points related to children. Did you search for children while you skip the part of videos?
I advise you, if you want to have some ideas about something, first watch or read then talk!

@ Roald / Petra : WHY don´t you CLOSE that kind of a BULLSHIT-THREAD right NOW ???:facepalm::facepalm:

Because everyone has freedom of speech here! Why don't you go away from this thread right now? :facepalm:

Don't close down a 9 page debate. It could be shorter if Gladdy multi-quoted bit he's new and even I don't use it. Bad for me since I should have a grasp on using it by now. But that's not the point. The exchange of ideas is most important.

Let's name the kid Billy. His mom starts doing porn at 18 and pregnant. Billy won't have any idea about his mom's activities if she is still doing it when he turns 5. At age 5 Billy walks in on mom making love without cameras. I say without cameras because no one wants a kid running in on a shoot so it just won't happen. How many of us have experienced this either on mom's end or Billy's end? Mom explains that she was just wrestling and the whole thing blows over. She now keeps the door locked.

Up till Billy is 13, he has no understanding of porn. Kissing a girl is yucky. If mom is still in the business she is keeping it away from the kid.

Billy hits puberty at the same time as his friends. Curiosity kicks in and he starts to explore. Mom is in her mid 30's and doesn't look the same as she did when she was 18. Short chance of anyone picking her out in a lineup much less a 15yo. Mom knows that she can't hide this forever. If she had left the business, Billy may never know till much later. Find out at a time where mom and son can sit down and have a talk about it. Not easy for either one of them. By this time Billy, just like any son, would never consider watching their mom having sex in any form. And as I said before, there is just so microscopic of a chance that he or any one of his friends would remember Billy's mom from a scene they saw.

I think this is a more likely way that porn moms and kids deal with this situation.

Thank you @bobjustbob for the constructive criticism and for giving an example.
I think everyone should see there's a way without swearing, insulting or blame the person who ask!

Porn has been around since the start of humans it was only once ancient cultures collapsed and European countries found all this did they hide the mature material and made it into a dirty taboo that it is today. There is nothing wrong with porn don't be jealous that they get to make money doing something you wish you could do. The porn industry is huge now hiring thousands of people so it will not being going away, there is a way for it to exist while people are still being responsible and teaching children about sex and the porn industry.

To anyone that believes that strippers or porn-stars are sinners or evil for what they do please shut up and keep your opinion to yourself.

Correction: They were not porn which exist at ancient cultures. Porn is the thing what we call today. Millions of people watch the pornstars in these modern times.
You must look from a view point of a kid before you blame the people.
People have no understanding except for a few people here. They just swear, insult or blame the people just like you!:brick:
Plus there are some other people who think like me. But all the time, they argue with me and swear to me.

You brought it up yourself, so it's fair to get into it. Also, if you want to discuss a small group, it's always wise to look at the bigger picture first.



Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends - Porn

This episode offers a look at very different sides of the porn industry, as Louis interviews both male and female porn stars. He reveals the problems a lot of porn actors face, be it not getting a job in straight porn and therefore having to do gay porn, or not getting an erection when it is needed.

Not really what we're discussing, is it?

Diary of a Porn Virgin

One of the 2 girls can't really get much of a job because she won't do girl-girl, anal or shoot during her period (I can understand the last one). So her options are limited.

The only problem Sahara has, according to the show, is that she might have hurt her parents, because they & their religion (they're muslim, but the same would apply to hardcore Christians) do not agree with her carreer choice.

Once again, not really what we're discussing, is it?

Pornucopia

Haven't seen the show, but considering the other 2 you mentioned aren't really on topic, I'm gonna assume it's the same in this case as well.


You're entitled to an opinion, but if you post your opinion on a public message board, there will be people who disagree.



Societies may say it's wrong, but we've all done it & we're all healthy human beings. I still don't get why violence is allowed (GI Joe, the Transformers, the Pizza Cats, even Eek the Cat has violence in it) and sex isn't, but that's an entirely different discussion.



How old do you think a kid is before he/she starts watching porn? 12? 15?
How old is the oldest porn you've ever watched? 5 years old? 6 years old?
When do the girls usually quit? when they're 24? 25? 26? 27? in some cases maybe 30?
What's the median age at which women have children?

Mean Age of Women at Birth of First Child in 2009 and 2010

Czech Republic 27.4 27.6
Hungary 27.9 28.2
Poland 26.3 26.6
Romania 25.6 26.0
Russian Federation 24.6 ..
Slovakia 27.0 27.3
Ukraine 25.9 25.8
United States 25.4 ..

So, even if a woman who lives in the US and has a kid when she's 25 years old, continues doing porn until she's 30 years old, the chances of the child being able to find his mother when he's 12 are very slim. The older he gets, the less chance there is that there's still stuff of her on the net.

Besides, he still has to recognise his mom. Keep in mind that if a look-alike of your mother when she was in her 20s bumps into you, you won't recognise her as a lookalike of your mom, simply because you don't even know what your mom looked like when she was in her 20s. (& I'm not even considering the fact that a lot of girls in the industry wear heavy glamour make-up which they do not wear when they're at home).

http://w3.unece.org/pxweb/dialog/va...&ti=Mean+age+of+women+at+birth+of+first+child

It seems you are kinda intelligent than the others but you misunderstood all the issue. As I mentioned you before, 2 wrongs does not make one true.
Violence is bad for children. You say if they watch violence they can watch the sex too. That's wrong. You multiply the bad examples and asking me questions?
I say, they are wrong as well. So everyone wants to protect their children from porn or violence. That's normal. Which pyschiatrist say that it's good for kids?
I advise you to watch Pornucopia as well.
People has right to disagree me, I disagree them as well. But some of them attacked me. Sending me swearwords, insulting things etc. But there are some others like bobjustbob and thinks like me. People find this thread useful. So we must respect any idea here.
You must look at this approach before warning me I think.

No, I won't go away. If you don't like my replies then don't read them. And just to make sure you understand that, I'm sending that sentiment to you in a PM. :) You shouldn't send me PMs if you don't want to receive them from me, Zippy. How dumb are you, anyway??? Pretty dumb, huh? :yesyes:

P.S. So you don't like my swear words, eh? Fuck, fuck, fuckity, fuck, fuck! Shit! Asswipe! Damn! Horse cock! Donkey balls! Camel nuts!

In my opinion it's a interesting thread. Gets people talking and debating. Isn't that what forums are for?

Yes. That's right! Thank you for your support. This is an interesting thread and people think about it.
Some people here wrote their words and moreover swore to me. And then they want to keep me out from the forum. And they judge me then they said this is a free platform.
Then I wrote my opinions and asked questions. Guess what? They tried to attacked me and keep on their swearings. Where is the understanding and free platform? Why they are so hypocrite?

And thanks to @DinoVelvet, @bobjustbob, @288gto for their supports and respectful approach. They show everyone how a respectful forum should be.
 
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i agree with gladyator89.
having kids is normal, doing porn while pregnant, is against ethics.
what if that kid doesn't want tomorrow that? it'll be a scar for him his entire life.
 

bobjustbob

Proud member of FreeOnes Hall Of Fame. Retired to
Glady, you haven't seen me on the political boards, have you. The gloves do come off and I swing lead pipes.
 
As I said before, there are no spesific points related to children.

So then you've got nothing. This thread that you created is specifically about children. You've been talking entirely out of your ass.

Congratulations.

You call is abuse with absolutely zero evidence. Speaking as someone who has suffered abuse I know that abuse leaves emotional scars. With a porn industry dating back to the '70s, and porn in general dating back much further, were this abuse then we'd see a plethora of people suffering and in therapy for it. We'd have data. And yet... where is it?

Because everyone has freedom of speech here!

Wrong. This is a privately owned and run forum. You have no expected freedom of speech here. The Constitution is a contract between the government and it's people, not a contract between citizens. You have no freedom of speech here. None of us do. We are all bound by the rules set forward by the Freeones' staff which they can change at any time, and uphold how they see fit. You have no rights but what they allow you.

You should generally try to know what you're talking about before you post.

I think everyone should see there's a way without swearing, insulting or blame the person who ask!

That's really tough to do when your entire thesis statement is insulting, dehumanizing and vile. Also, you've been swearing as well.

Perhaps you should try to deal with your own hypocrisy before attempting to chastise those around you.

i agree with gladyator89.
having kids is normal, doing porn while pregnant, is against ethics.
what if that kid doesn't want tomorrow that? it'll be a scar for him his entire life.

1) So is it "ethical" for a husband to have sex with his wife while she's pregnant with his child?

2) Tomorrow the child still won't be born, so he's not likely going to want anything except to continue receiving nourishment via the umbilical cord, and anything that's happening below him is outside of his purview. Again, the child is in the uterus (the penis is not), the uterus is blocked by a mucus plug (so nothing is getting through) and even within the uterus the child is contained in the amniotic sac (so you're looking at a double barrier). The child can't see anything. Nothing comes near the child, as he is in a different part of the woman's body. The child is behind two barriers.

Have you, like, never even taken a high school health class? This is pretty basic stuff here. While pregnant porn may not be my thing, it's hardly unethical. And, hate to break it to you, but more likely than not your parents has sex while you were gestating. If it's abuse than chances are about 95+% of the people here have been abused by their fathers and should be in deep, deep therapy for it...
 
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