pornstar has a kid

[Maggie Green]

:horse::douchebag::bang::douchebag::douchebag::douchebag::douchebag::douchebag:

 

[bigwarmload]

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So the real question...

Furthermore, these kids have some problems afterwards. Even her mother and father become good parents. But I don't think that they really care about their kids. Some of them still go on their career.

So kind of like Anakin Skywalker and Luke Skywalker? Luke turned out ok?

Luke even ultimately loved his father.

 

[jlm555]

So? Pornstars are regular people too, just like me and you.

 

[bobjustbob]

So? Pornstars are regular people too, just like me and you.

In more ways than not. I have to pay rent or mortgage. Get the car fixed. Do laundry and cook. Fight with my family. Leave some clothes hanging around or dishes in the sink when I'm too lazy to pick them up. Change light bulbs. Set a clock to get to work. Other than what industry they are in, life ain't much different.

 

[DuanCulo]

pornfidelity seems to post the marital status as well as # of kids the pornstar has. not sure if it is accurate info but it is consistent (same info for the same pornstar each scene she does with them)

http://www.pornfidelity.com/tour/page/2.html?nats=NTQ0Ni40LjMuMy4xLjYwMDE2NDkuMC4wLjA

 

[georges]

Of course you know what I try to say. If you hadn't got me, you wouldn't have written too much. You try to find a weak point when you discuss. This is a pathetic behave.
THIS IS A FREE PLATFORM. :angrymob:Owned by private business, doesn't mean that you have no freedom. If you can't tolerate freedom of speech and freedom of thought, this is not your place.
P.S: If you were really sincere, you could have corrected my mistakes by sending me p.m. You are malicious!

Rey c and the others are correct about you. You will never understand what is to found a family. Is that your personal business if a pornstar has a kid or wants one? No, it is not. Then why don't you let other people be happy and let them live their lives? You are the one who is untolerant here , so don't try to use bullshit rethorics because it hasn't worked with anyone here :update::notworking::ignore:

 

[Roald]

SO is it ok yet for pornstars to get kids? or we still arguing?

 

[STDiva]

Uhhhhh.....brandy Taylor has kids I think. I still love her

You go, gladyator. Tell these punks what's up. The only good mom is a mom that doesn't suck dick on the internet. Think about the kids!!

 

[Sicario]

Let's all hope that this hypocritical fucktard, gladyator89, is gone for good from this train wreck of a thread.

:thefinger:thefinger:thefinger

 

[Deepcover]

Do you think it is a porn?

I don't hate you, just wondering what you thought.

 

[Rey C.]

Did you lost your mind?

Uh, not that I'm aware. I try to know where my mind is during every waking moment. But now, I'd say there's a distinct possibility that you don't know where your mind is at this moment.

Really? How can does this issue have statistical datas?

It might help you to know that there is a social science known as sociology. It's been around for a few thousand years - dating back to the ancient Greeks. Instead of just throwing opinions at the wall to see what sticks, sociologists use "statistical datas" to prove or disprove their theories. You are quite obviously not intelligent enough to use data in this way. But I do thank you for proving my point, as I suspected this from the beginning. You Might survive though, because as the movie line goes, "the world needs ditch diggers too." :yesyes:

This is a subjective issue that we discuss.

Excellent. This is what one would say who has no knowledge of and no ability to use data or objective reasoning. Even a subjective observation or opinion can be supported by objective data... if it's valid.

If you belive in something which has numbers, you prove that pornstars can be great parents by sending me statistical datas!

I'm not the one making claims here, Zippy. You're the one making claims. If I was attempting to float the theory that pornstars are above average or great parents, then yes, I most certainly would provide data supporting my belief. That's kinda how I roll.

Probably they even don't know who their kid's father is.

I thought you said you had no data. So how do you know this? :dunno:

Do you want to see your mother as a pornstar?

Not particularly. But if she was, I doubt that I would feel "abused" or damaged by her career choice. Of course, I don't seem to be as weak (minded) and fragile as you. As I mentioned previously, my father engaged in an activity before I was born which caused some kids to *think* that I could be made fun of. That didn't work out very well for one of them. And now, many years later, when I meet an older person who is from the area where I grew up, I introduce myself as "______'s son" (my father's son) - years after his death, he is still well known. I'm extremely proud of my father. I'm extremely proud to be known as his son and for people to know that he is my father. If my mother had been a pornstar, I suspect that I would feel the same about her. My feelings toward her would be based on her, as a person, and how she and my father raised me, not on her career choice. Judging people based solely on what they do is what judgmental weasels and cowards like you do.

If you don't want, why do you want it for the other's children? :crybaby:

Actually Zippy, I haven't said anything about what I want for other people's kids (it's you who is on a pedestal, preaching about who isn't a fit parent), other than they should not be harassed by cowards and weirdos like you. And if they were harassed by cowards and weirdos like you, I hope that there would be a kid around like I was when I was a kid. Know what I mean, Gene? :eek:

I've never liked people like you. You're basically just a piece of shit, who walks around judging other people, but saying that you're not judging people, which makes you both a hypocrite and a liar. Just another holier than thou piece of shit. No different from those Westboro Baptist Church haters, you're probably sitting in front of your $75 netbook computer, either holding a Bible or a Koran, thinking that you're fit to judge who is or isn't a good parent. It's not about your right to have an opinion. It's about my right to point out the fact that your opinions are nothing more than half-assed beliefs that you've cobbled together... and they're (obviously) based on nothing objective! So the kid that I would truly feel sorry for is any kid that you brought into this world. I don't know how pornstars' kids grow up, but I'm about 99% certain that any kid of yours would be massively fucked. But maybe some kid of mine would take pity on the little bugger and give your little retard a job digging ditches... cause ya know, the world needs ditch diggers too. :wave:

 

[gladyator89]

So I shouldn't express my concerns with stuff that doesn't involve me directly?

So, are you a pregnant porn star, the child of a porn star, or a hypocrite? Just curious...

Do you nose into when two people talk?
Write your opinion, don't defence someone. You look pathetic.

You showed me one person who agreed with you to a point, but nowhere near the level of fanaticism that you have reached. Aside from that, all I have is your word that more people have agreed with you and sent you PMs, so excuse me if I'm skeptical.

You say "generally they experience unplanned pregnancy", what exactly are you basing that on? You said a page ago "Did you lost your mind? Really? How can does this issue have statistical datas?
This is a subjective issue that we discuss. If you belive in something which has numbers, you prove that pornstars can be great parents by sending me statistical datas!" What you've said is subjective as well, but if you're so sure about it you should be able to back it up. Show me statistical data that shows pornstars experience any more unplanned pregnancies than the rest of the country, or even one case where one actress said "Yeah, I got fucked, got pregnant, and I don't know who done it!"

You don't call what you've said about them degrading? I think even people that agree with you about how it may be wrong for a pornstar to have a kid or have sex on camera while pregnant may disagree with you about that. Calling them disgusting? How do you justify that?

The subjective issue was not the percentage of pregnant pornstars! The subjective issue is: should it be or not and how their kids think about it when they grow up? These are subjective. You have serios understanding problems about what you read!
You still hesitate to answer my question: Do you want to see your mom as a pornstar?

:horse::douchebag::bang::douchebag::douchebag::douchebag::douchebag::douchebag:

calm down, sweetheart...

So? Pornstars are regular people too, just like me and you.

My question is more than this
We discuss about their children's feeling and do they accept when they see their parent in a porn video?

pornfidelity seems to post the marital status as well as # of kids the pornstar has. not sure if it is accurate info but it is consistent (same info for the same pornstar each scene she does with them)

http://www.pornfidelity.com/tour/page/2.html?nats=NTQ0Ni40LjMuMy4xLjYwMDE2NDkuMC4wLjA

Yes I know it but are these real information?

Rey c and the others are correct about you. You will never understand what is to found a family. Is that your personal business if a pornstar has a kid or wants one? No, it is not. Then why don't you let other people be happy and let them live their lives? You are the one who is untolerant here , so don't try to use bullshit rethorics because it hasn't worked with anyone here :update::notworking::ignore:

No I am not the only one.

Uhhhhh.....brandy Taylor has kids I think. I still love her

You go, gladyator. Tell these punks what's up. The only good mom is a mom that doesn't suck dick on the internet. Think about the kids!!

I think noone will think about the kids. Everyone thinks pornstars. They said they are regular people. What about their kids? Aren't they regular?
Who wants to have a pornstar mom here?

Rey C. ,
you can't tolerate any idea that does not fit your ideas.
Then I became a hypocrite and a liar? :notworking:I think you judge me. You said don't judge? What about your behaviours here? You try to tell me till the price of my computer, but I am not the person that in your dreams!:eek:

 

[Gordar]

Yes, it's pretty normal for women to have kids. A large majority of the women on this planet have at least one kid. Weird question, honestly....

Bound to happen and I wouldn't care if she did as long as she hides it from the kid as long as he/she can. Try and raise a "normal" kid whatever the hell that means.

I can only speak for myself, but I'm usually not interested in 15-16 year old porn and I doubt a kid will be, so I think the kid won't be confronted with his mom if he decides to look on the internet. If the girl in question quits when she's pregnant & doesn't make a comeback, I'd say it's pretty safe.

 

[Rey C.]

Rey C. ,
you can't tolerate any idea that does not fit your ideas.
Then I became a hypocrite and a liar? :notworking:I think you judge me. You said don't judge? What about your behaviours here? You try to tell me till the price of my computer, but I am not the person that in your dreams!:eek:

I said I didn't judge people based on what they did for a living (and certain other factors). But yeah, Zippy, I judge people all the time. And of course I'm judging you. Didn't I point that out from the very beginning? I really meant to. Sorry I wasn't more clear about that. When I called you a clueless piece of shit, ya know... you probably should have taken that as a hint that I was judging you. Doncha think? Dumbass...

 

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

Do you nose into when two people talk?
Write your opinion, don't defence someone. You look pathetic.

Wait... so nosing into someone else's business is pathetic? Shouldn't you be minding your own then? Because you're not.

And HELL YEAH I nose into conversations and situations all the time. Welcome to society. If you do something in public, then hey... it's public. If you don't want an open conversation then you should having one in private. If you say or do something right in front of me then Hell yes it's my business. You've made it my business. Again, welcome to society. If you don't like it You Might want to look into hermithood and building yourself a nice shack in the woods somewhere.

The subjective issue was not the percentage of pregnant pornstars!

He wasn't talking about percentages. He was talking about unsubstantiated claims you made about unplanned pregnancies and questionable fatherhood. He was asking you to provide some data on that. That's certainly something that can be enumerated, so if you don't have the data then you were talking out of your ass and tossing out hyperbolic bullshit when you shouldn't have been.

The subjective issue is: should it be or not and how their kids think about it when they grow up? These are subjective. You have serios understanding problems about what you read!
You still hesitate to answer my question: Do you want to see your mom as a pornstar?

Except that ultimately if this sort of thing does cause harm then... where are the victims?

I'm not sure if you're aware of this but the porn industry didn't just fall out of the sky last year. There's been adult films since there's been films, and it's been churning as an industry since the '70s. And I can assure you that pregnancy isn't a recent fad either. Which means we should be seeing a mess of (according to you) unplanned, fatherless victims with damaged psyches cropping up all over the place, with many of them in their forties now. So where are they? Where is the data on all of these damaged children from the swinging 70's on down? Where is the clinical data? Where are the case studies in medical journals? ... Where are the freaking Jerry Springer episodes because you KNOW he wouldn't pass THAT shit up.

You're crying about the children... but WHAT children? I can point you to data on victims of physical, emotional or sexual abuse. I can find information on kids damaged by their parents' psychoses, drug abuse, alcoholism, absence, coddling... yet I can't find any on kids damaged by their parents careers in pornography. Really, the only prominent information I can find on the child of porn stars isn't some horrible drama where the child is mentally scarred; it's Thora Birch, the mainstream Hollywood actress and one of the few who isn't constantly in the tabloids for shady exploits. She seems pretty well adjusted (and for Hollywood I'd say SHOCKINGLY well adjusted).

So I'm seeing you blowing a lot of smoke out of your ass... but I'm not seeing any fire.

When I called you a clueless piece of shit, ya know... you probably should have taken that as a hint that I was judging you. Doncha think? Dumbass...

Maybe he's really into scat porn and thought you were telling him you find him charmingly naive and otherwise a-okay.

 

[gladyator89]

I said I didn't judge people based on what they did for a living (and certain other factors). But yeah, Zippy, I judge people all the time. And of course I'm judging you. Didn't I point that out from the very beginning? I really meant to. Sorry I wasn't more clear about that. When I called you a clueless piece of shit, ya know... you probably should have taken that as a hint that I was judging you. Doncha think? Dumbass...

so that makes you hypocrite, dumbass...

 

[gladyator89]

Wait... so nosing into someone else's business is pathetic? Shouldn't you be minding your own then? Because you're not.

And HELL YEAH I nose into conversations and situations all the time. Welcome to society. If you do something in public, then hey... it's public. If you don't want an open conversation then you should having one in private. If you say or do something right in front of me then Hell yes it's my business. You've made it my business. Again, welcome to society. If you don't like it You Might want to look into hermithood and building yourself a nice shack in the woods somewhere.



He wasn't talking about percentages. He was talking about unsubstantiated claims you made about unplanned pregnancies and questionable fatherhood. He was asking you to provide some data on that. That's certainly something that can be enumerated, so if you don't have the data then you were talking out of your ass and tossing out hyperbolic bullshit when you shouldn't have been.



Except that ultimately if this sort of thing does cause harm then... where are the victims?

I'm not sure if you're aware of this but the porn industry didn't just fall out of the sky last year. There's been adult films since there's been films, and it's been churning as an industry since the '70s. And I can assure you that pregnancy isn't a recent fad either. Which means we should be seeing a mess of (according to you) unplanned, fatherless victims with damaged psyches cropping up all over the place, with many of them in their forties now. So where are they? Where is the data on all of these damaged children from the swinging 70's on down? Where is the clinical data? Where are the case studies in medical journals? ... Where are the freaking Jerry Springer episodes because you KNOW he wouldn't pass THAT shit up.

You're crying about the children... but WHAT children? I can point you to data on victims of physical, emotional or sexual abuse. I can find information on kids damaged by their parents' psychoses, drug abuse, alcoholism, absence, coddling... yet I can't find any on kids damaged by their parents careers in pornography. Really, the only prominent information I can find on the child of porn stars isn't some horrible drama where the child is mentally scarred; it's Thora Birch, the mainstream Hollywood actress and one of the few who isn't constantly in the tabloids for shady exploits. She seems pretty well adjusted (and for Hollywood I'd say SHOCKINGLY well adjusted).

So I'm seeing you blowing a lot of smoke out of your ass... but I'm not seeing any fire.



Maybe he's really into scat porn and thought you were telling him you find him charmingly naive and otherwise a-okay.

I don't care about you. You just quote the people's words.
To multiply the bad examples about other parents, don't make pornstars good parents.
Did he give me statistic first, so why should I?
I've watched too many documentaries about porn. As far as I see, pornstars don't care about their relationships, their marriage and their children.
Relations and marriages are their decisions but their children don't deserve this. No unborn child deserve this.

 

[ApolloBalboa]

I don't care about you. You just quote the people's words.
To multiply the bad examples about other parents, don't make pornstars good parents.
Did he give me statistic first, so why should I?
I've watched too many documentaries about porn. As far as I see, pornstars don't care about their relationships, their marriage and their children.
Relations and marriages are their decisions but their children don't deserve this. No unborn child deserve this.

You're the one who is saying pornstars make unfit parents, so you should be able to back it up. Name a documentary that you've seen, give the name of an actual star, any evidence that can substantiate your claim. All you're doing is showing how ignorant you are by making your case but not actually giving any proof as to why.

 

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

so that makes you hypocrite, dumbass...

For the hypocrite part I'm pretty sure you don't understand what the word means. Saying you shouldn't judge someone based on certain criteria doesn't make you a hypocrite if you judge them based on others. You'd only be a hypocrite if you judged people on the same criteria that you told others not to. For instance, you're a hypocrite for judging me for butting into other peoples' business while in a topic created by you which does exactly that. Rey C. judging you on your expressed yet unsupported beliefs and judgmentalism isn't the same as you judging people you don't know, you've never met, and never interacted with quite simply because of what they do for a living.

For the dumbass part I'm pretty sure you're projecting.

I don't care about you. You just quote the people's words.

I get the feeling that you don't care about me because if you had to address what I say in detail instead of reacting dismissively you'd probably have to accept that everything you say comes directly out of your ass. I'm somewhat shocked the font used in your posts isn't brown...

To multiply the bad examples about other parents, don't make pornstars good parents.

Who said it does? There ARE examples of damaged children thanks to various parental issues. That's what we in the real world call "evidence" and we use that "evidence" to support our points and give them validity. You see, evidence exists to support these things because they are an actual problem. That's the thing about actual problems, there are consequences, thus there are examples and data. You know what kind of problems generally don't have any evidence to support them? Make believe ones.

See, so when I point out that I can find evidence of Problem A, that tells us that Problem A is, you know, a problem. When I can't find evidence of Problem B you know what that tells us? That you're probably delusional.

Did he give me statistic first, so why should I?

Why should you? Three reasons:

1) You can't prove a negative, thus the onus is on you.
2) You made concrete statements about porn stars being prone to having unplanned, fatherless children while he didn't, thus the onus is on you.
3) You brought it up and he questioned your "facts", thus the onus is on you.

I've watched too many documentaries about porn. As far as I see, pornstars don't care about their relationships, their marriage and their children.
Relations and marriages are their decisions but their children don't deserve this. No unborn child deserve this.

Bullshit.

Your entire topic is about your shock over porn stars having children and surprise that one of them did after posting on Facebook. Now suddenly you've watched documentaries (plural) about porn stars and their relationships where they've had these children that you were so shocked to discover just sixteen days ago? So in this time you've done research yet... can't give any examples nor statistics of damaged children?

Yeah, smells like bullshit. Which documentaries have you watched (remember; imaginary ones don't count)?

 

[bigwarmload]

I've watched too many documentaries about porn. As far as I see, pornstars don't care about their relationships, their marriage and their children.

Name a documentary that you've seen, give the name of an actual star, any evidence that can substantiate your claim.

I agree, tell us the TITLE of each of these documentaries by name, or posts links referencing them, as well as whom appeared in them that you're basing your claims on concerning relationships, marriage, children. Make a list and post it here, pretty simple request since you have watched them.