Poll: Obama 'worst president' since World War II
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gmase
On the dark side of the moon
Obama certainly wasn't the worst prior to Trump, but I believe Trump has clearly put some distance between himself and the next-to-last:
https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...esidency-with-approval-rating-at-new-low-poll
https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...esidency-with-approval-rating-at-new-low-poll
Theopolis Q. Hossenffer
I am in America, not of it.
Depends on who's poll you want to believe. I saw one the other day that even after all this shit said he was still at 43%
Theopolis Q. Hossenffer
I am in America, not of it.
Never said Biden was less, just depends on who you ask. I bet 98.7% of Trumpistas hate Biden.
Yes, a stinging indictment.
True, Trump never got 50% favorability ratings.
He couldn't even beat Hillary in the popular vote, which surely must've been a kick in the pants to his fragile ego...
Given how the previous occupant of the White House acted so unpresidential, imagine many, even many who voted for him in 2016, would easily pick the Whiner In Chief as the worst...
True, true, true....and yet we have someone trying to give him a run for his money
xfire
New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
Mr. moran seems to be itching for a fight as of late, but I'm sure he will just iGnOrE anything I post.
Helping a colleague round out course material and oddly enough read the following link and thought of your post.
Even George Washington had problems with popularity at time.
https://allthingsliberty.com/2021/09/examining-public-opinion-during-the-whiskey-rebellion/
gmase
On the dark side of the moon
He is exhibiting his usual cryptic passive aggression. Throwing vague comments out and refusing to clarify when asked. His prerogative frankly. There is no duty to reply.Mr. moran seems to be itching for a fight as of late, but I'm sure he will just iGnOrE anything I post.
xfire
New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
Training in cryptic passive aggression must be part of the indoctrination when they hand out the Trump Decoder Rings. At this point his antics are merely amusing.
At least at this point in time, Biden's numbers are as low and as divided as Trumps were, per NPR.
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/02/1033433959/biden-approval-rating-afghanistan-withdrawal
It will be interesting to see what a year from this point will do. Afghanistan certainly hit a cord that other issues weren't up until this point.
August 29th was a low point, but perhaps he is creeping back up in a positive direction.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/
The WSJ seems to think it will stick. https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/af...-holbrooke-obama-military-taliban-11630612285
Heading into the fall with the Delta Covid variant an the fallout from August, perhaps is a real opportunity for Biden. If he can shake the lethargy of his first 9 months, engage, and drive solutions, I think he can pin the problems of the past on the past. There is an argument that the whole Afghan problem is Bush's and that any blame attached to Obama, Trump, and Biden is really just "mice nuts".
This WSP
p opinion piece is along those lines and that Biden's focus should be to break the logjams and start to get things done. Not always and easy thing for a person who spent so much time in the legislation, where his vote could be more subtle and less accountable.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/09/07/biden-needs-turn-page-painful-august/
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/02/1033433959/biden-approval-rating-afghanistan-withdrawal
It will be interesting to see what a year from this point will do. Afghanistan certainly hit a cord that other issues weren't up until this point.
August 29th was a low point, but perhaps he is creeping back up in a positive direction.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/
The WSJ seems to think it will stick. https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/af...-holbrooke-obama-military-taliban-11630612285
Heading into the fall with the Delta Covid variant an the fallout from August, perhaps is a real opportunity for Biden. If he can shake the lethargy of his first 9 months, engage, and drive solutions, I think he can pin the problems of the past on the past. There is an argument that the whole Afghan problem is Bush's and that any blame attached to Obama, Trump, and Biden is really just "mice nuts".
This WSP
p opinion piece is along those lines and that Biden's focus should be to break the logjams and start to get things done. Not always and easy thing for a person who spent so much time in the legislation, where his vote could be more subtle and less accountable.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/09/07/biden-needs-turn-page-painful-august/
gmase
On the dark side of the moon
Presidential approval ratings are like watching the stock market. You get blips up and down, but it is the long-term trend which matters.
The popularity contest is driven too much by media. Imagine the wrath George Washington would have been receiving now. You reference the Whiskey Rebellion - how about the fight over Jay’s Treaty? It was essentially the rupture to one-party rule and gave quicker rise to factions. They were coming anyway of course.
The popularity contest is driven too much by media. Imagine the wrath George Washington would have been receiving now. You reference the Whiskey Rebellion - how about the fight over Jay’s Treaty? It was essentially the rupture to one-party rule and gave quicker rise to factions. They were coming anyway of course.
Agreed.
Jay's treaty certainly created the "First Party System". It become a pendulum and we see it today. The problem is the further you push the pendulum to one one side, the further it will swing back to the other side.
I forget who I'm paraphrasing, but I agree with this (...but still have thoughts of the Roman Empire's fate) - The US is basically a train that is always on track and moving forward. The passengers will lean out either side and make noise, but the train is bigger than them. - I didn't do that justice.
Washington was the only president who was able to stay out of party politics. Adams wanted to, but was the first one to get a bloody nose by it. I like him, partially because he was poor at it. You could probably make a good argument that he was a Federalist, but he held them accountable as he certainly did the Democrat-Republicans. So, they both beat him up. In my opinion, that makes him a good man. He fought the good fight. (Great President? Not so sure about that)
gmase
On the dark side of the moon
Read Fears of a Setting Sun. Great insights into the disillusionment of the ‘founders’.
Mr. Daystar
In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
They all suck. In the almost 4 decades I've been voting, I can't remember the last time I voted FOR a president, instead of voting AGAINST someone. In my opinion, that's a pretty sad thing to have to think about. We've been conditioned like dogs, to accept the abysmal.
In this we agree. Unfortunately, I've been casting my vote in the same way.
Tired of voting to the lesser of two who cares.
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