Piers Morgan loses it in *** control "debate."

[Bloodshot Scott]

Wow. I thought Piers was actually decent but this disgusting display truly was despicable. On par with O'Reilly's Frank "interview." (Yes, O'Reilly disgusted me there as well.)



http://videos.mediaite.com/embed/pl...ated-argument-with-anti-***-control-advocate/


Piers needs to take his transplant ass back to the other side of the pond.

 

[BlueBalls]

Piers needs to take his transplant ass back to the other side of the pond.

Good god, no. You can keep him.

 

[TheSpokenWheel]

The only thing I know about Piers Morgan is the only thing I need to know: Jeremy Clarkson punched him in the face.

 

[Johan]

It looks more like Pierce Morgan rips off John Lott.
In fact, John Lott didn't answer to the question : Why would an american citizen need an automatic or semi-automatic ***/rifle ?
I don't agree with it but I can understand that people need to own and bear a ***. But you don't need that kind of guns...

Morgan is right when he says that when a teenager can legaly load himself to the teath with automatic weapons, bring them to a theater and start firing all over the place, something goes wrong !

As Lott said, UK had fewer ******* before the ***-control laws. But they had fewer people. The total number of crime was lower. but the crime/capita ratios was higher.

More guns, more crimes.
Bigger guns, bigger crimes.

 

[xfire]

How exactly did Piers Morgan "lose it"? I think his main contention was right on target; 100-round drum magazines really only have one purpose.

 

[Will E Worm]

Piers needs to take his transplant ass back to the other side of the pond.

:yesyes: He's not an American he does not get an opinion on guns in America.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

It looks more like Pierce Morgan rips off John Lott.
In fact, John Lott didn't answer to the question : Why would an american citizen need an automatic or semi-automatic ***/rifle ?
I don't agree with it but I can understand that people need to own and bear a ***. But you don't need that kind of guns...

Morgan is right when he says that when a teenager can legaly load himself to the teath with automatic weapons, bring them to a theater and start firing all over the place, something goes wrong !

As Lott said, UK had fewer ******* before the ***-control laws. But they had fewer people. The total number of crime was lower. but the crime/capita ratios was higher.

More guns, more crimes.
Bigger guns, bigger crimes.

According to your post you didn't even watch the clip. Congratulations.

How exactly did Piers Morgan "lose it"? I think his main contention was right on target; 100-round drum magazines really only have one purpose.

Compared to every interview I've ever seen him give he totally shut Lott down like a good fascist tool of his CNN masters.

:yesyes: He's not an American he does not get an opinion on guns in America.

I believe he actually just ****** his test and in fact is a citizen now. I think.

 

[Mayhem]

I stopped at 1:15. It was all I needed.

I will allow that London/England has its share of immigrants and foreign nationals. But no one, no one, has a similar situation as America, with so many disparate cultures living under one roof. And this is where the anti-*** argument goes off the rails. So much of our crime has its roots in intra-culture territorialism, and this has been going on since the 1800s. Irish vs. Italian, Black vs. Hispanic, Armenian vs. Turk; it all happens here and it either doesn't happen in European countries or it doesn't happen to anywhere close to the same degree. Again, this is just the roots of a damn big tree. The roots have branched out to organized crime, **** running, ...... bootlegging, numbers running and illicit ******** all funded crime back in the day. All crimes that were defended with guns and people who were willing to use guns to defend their crime. Will is right (in his own half-assed way), Europeans don't have our issues and need to shut up about them.

 

[Red XXX]

I'm not getting into the *** control debate but as a UK citizen please feel free to keep Piers Morgan and if you like we can send you over a few more of his old fellow newshacks, after all you've got Murdoch why not have the rest :thumbsup:

 

[Johan]

:yesyes: He's not an American he does not get an opinion on guns in America.

Everyone's in the world get an opinion about anything, including guns in America. And everyone's allowed to share his opinion.
Then, you decide whose opinion you care or not.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

I stopped at 1:15. It was all I needed.

I will allow that London/England has its share of immigrants and foreign nationals. But no one, no one, has a similar situation as America, with so many disparate cultures living under one roof. And this is where the anti-*** argument goes off the rails. So much of our crime has its roots in intra-culture territorialism, and this has been going on since the 1800s. Irish vs. Italian, Black vs. Hispanic, Armenian vs. Turk; it all happens here and it either doesn't happen in European countries or it doesn't happen to anywhere close to the same degree. Again, this is just the roots of a damn big tree. The roots have branched out to organized crime, **** running, ...... bootlegging, numbers running and illicit ******** all funded crime back in the day. All crimes that were defended with guns and people who were willing to use guns to defend their crime. Will is right (in his own half-assed way), Europeans don't have our issues and need to shut up about them.

Watch the whole thing. It's the most absurd segment of evening news I've ever seen. The only thing it compares to is - as I stated before - the O'Reilly/Frank segment, which I thought was done in very poor taste, even though I do think Frank is a particular villain in the house market crash. I resent Piers for not letting Lott make one coherent statement. I was watching his show but I'm done with him.

 

[Christa]

I or we love our GUNS!

 

[Johan]

I will allow that London/England has its share of immigrants and foreign nationals. But no one, no one, has a similar situation as America, with so many disparate cultures living under one roof.

Wrong.
France has : Poles, Portuguese, Italians, Spanish, Africans, Noth Africans (Algerians, Tunisians & Morrocans...) Viet-nameses, Turks, Yugoslavians...
8% of the French population aren't french.

As of 2008, the French national institute of statistics INSEE estimated that 5.3 million foreign-born immigrants and 6.5 million direct descendants of immigrants (born in France with at least one immigrant parent) lived in France representing a total of 11.8 million and 19% of the total population in metropolitan France (62.1 million in 2008). Among them, about 5.5 million are of European origin, 4 million of Maghrebi origin, 1 million of Sub-saharan African origin and 400,000 of Turkish origin.

 

[Mayhem]

Wrong.
France has : Poles, Portuguese, Italians, Spanish, Africans, Noth Africans (Algerians, Tunisians & Morrocans...) Viet-nameses, Turks, Yugoslavians...
8% of the French population aren't french.

As of 2008, the French national institute of statistics INSEE estimated that 5.3 million foreign-born immigrants and 6.5 million direct descendants of immigrants (born in France with at least one immigrant parent) lived in France representing a total of 11.8 million and 19% of the total population in metropolitan France (62.1 million in 2008). Among them, about 5.5 million are of European origin, 4 million of Maghrebi origin, 1 million of Sub-saharan African origin and 400,000 of Turkish origin.

Point taken, and I've been aware of this. But for Europe, this is a more recent development, whereas for America, it's who we are. We have had these issues for as long as we've been a country. And let's be clear on a very relevant point: European countries have not and do not have the freedoms that America has had during our entire existence. The French government has pulled all kinds of crap on its own citizens, which wouldn't last a week here. The British monarchy, the situation(s) on Portugal; none of this would be tolerated in the US. Repoerters disappearing, student activists rounded up, lack of fair trials. The list is endless.

Anti-gunners keep trying to bring the debate around to crime and hunting. Our 2nd Amendment is about neither and I'll keep bringing the debate right back to where it's supposed to be and that is where the Founding Fathers of my country madated that it will be.

 

[Will E Worm]

Everyone's in the world get an opinion about anything, including guns in America. And everyone's allowed to share his opinion.
Then, you decide whose opinion you care or not.

No :nono:

 

[Johan]

Anti-gunners keep trying to bring the debate around to crime and hunting. Our 2nd Amendment is about neither and I'll keep bringing the debate right back to where it's supposed to be and that is where the Founding Fathers of my country madated that it will be.

OK, let take the debate back to where it should.

Your 2nd amendmend is not about crime or hunting. It says : A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
The thing is I never heard about a people militia in the US (except from some bunch of wackoes of all kind such as the KKK, the Black Panthers, the Jewish Defense League, the May 19th Communist Organization, the Aryan Nations, etc...)

During the "Founding Fathers Era", every village had its militia and thoses were self regulated, keeping those who were irrensponsible or mentaly instable away from weapons. Today, every american citizen can buy guns and no one's there to keep guns away from those who shouldn't own some.
The world is changing, the US are changing, laws that have been written 250 years ago aren't fit anymore. They must be adapted to the 21st century. Since n one does what the people use to do, the government should take that responsability.
A teenager legaly arming himself to the teeth, going to a movie theatre and firing all around the place, this is wrong. Things can't keep the way they are.

Also, even being an anti-***, I can understand (even if do not agree) american people feeling they need a ***. I can understand why a random US citizen buys a Glock 19. What I don't understand is why they would need an AR-15 ?

No :nono:

Yes. It's called freedom of speech.

 

[Mayhem]

The militia is every able-bodied free male person between the age of 14 and 45, that was the militia of the Founding ******'s era.. The only modern change to that would be to include females.

The groups you mentioned are not militias, regardless of what they call themselves.

I agree that regulations need to be tightened to keep guns away from the mentally unstable.

And no, you don't understand why we would need an AR-15. You don't have too.

 

[tartanterrier]

Since it's legal to shoot & **** in the States.Can't you lot get him into a movie premiere and shoot him

 

[Mayhem]

Since it's legal to shoot & **** in the States.Can't you lot get him into a movie premiere and shoot him

Honestly, his kind do more to strengthen the 2nd Amendment than they'll ever allow themselves to realize. I've said it before and I still stand by it: President William Jefferson Clinton was the greatest thing to happen to the 2nd Amendment in the last half of the 20th century.

 

[Master Roshi]