People who obsess about porn stars not doing interracial

[Chica]

it's funny you mention that because a few weeks ago a guy sent me an email and said that i would never really go anywhere in porn until i start adding black guys to my site.

 

[QueenyLover]

Despite his best attempts not to, meesterperfect raises a good point!

How can you decry a girl as "racist" if she won't do black guys yet demand she do black guys for no other apparent reason than their skin color? Fixating on race one way or the other is racism, regardless of the angle or argument IMO.

Also, Neferkauhor's comments seem puzzling to me:

1) You come off as seeming to suggest that no black man can legitimately find white skin appealing, or marry a white woman - it can only be representative of some sort of self-loathing or a reflection of America's racist past/current/future.

2) You also seem to think that anyone being attracted to a porn star is revolting, which is kind of odd as porn works on the basis of being attracted to the women involved. Granted, more than anything you seem hung up on the obviously over-dramatic comment someone made about how attractive they found Gianna Michaels to be (i.e. I think you're taking the comment way too literally/seriously), but still, seems odd to argue that porn stars should not be considered attractive.

Regardless, I think the two best answers have already been raised:

1. Porn viewers (at least the vocal ones) are never satisfied if a girl hasn't done everything possible. Just read a Next Door Nikki or Denise Milani thread to see how many people moan about a girl's not doing for them.

2. Some viewers don't like it because it interferes with their ability to fantasize.

 

[meesterperfect]

Despite his best attempts not to, meesterperfect raises a good point!

How can you decry a girl as "racist" if she won't do black guys yet demand she do black guys for no other apparent reason than their skin color? Fixating on race one way or the other is racism, regardless of the angle or argument IMO.

Also, Neferkauhor's comments seem puzzling to me:

1) You come off as seeming to suggest that no black man can legitimately find white skin appealing, or marry a white woman - it can only be representative of some sort of self-loathing or a reflection of America's racist past/current/future.

2) You also seem to think that anyone being attracted to a porn star is revolting, which is kind of odd as porn works on the basis of being attracted to the women involved. Granted, more than anything you seem hung up on the obviously over-dramatic comment someone made about how attractive they found Gianna Michaels to be (i.e. I think you're taking the comment way too literally/seriously), but still, seems odd to argue that porn stars should not be considered attractive.

Regardless, I think the two best answers have already been raised:

1. Porn viewers (at least the vocal ones) are never satisfied if a girl hasn't done everything possible. Just read a Next Door Nikki or Denise Milani thread to see how many people moan about a girl's not doing for them.

2. Some viewers don't like it because it interferes with their ability to fantasize.

so why the cheap shot?
that was exactly my point as you took it.
well almost,
i didnt say it was racist i said it was racial.

 

[roronoa3000]

I call it the Tiger Woods disease, were a man of color cannot find a woman with his same features attractive. He was a billionaire and he married a Swedish nanny? How many rich white men are you going to find marrying black nannies? None

Point?

 

[z9102]

But did you account for the millions of irish sold into slavery during Cromwell's march across Ireland? Or that hundreds of thousands of Irish children were sold into slavery in the 1650s?
Or that the west indies had more irish slaves than any other race?
Or that a single black slave was worth 10 irish slaves?

Nah, its only horrific because it was just against african slaves.

I assume that's the tactic nowadays? To say there were Irish slaves as well, so African slavery wasn't that significant so some can sleep better at night?

And since numbers matter to many let's make it a numbers game.

Based on what I've read, some have estimated that up to 100,000 Irish were transported to the West Indies as indentured servants and slaves. And there is quite a difference between being an indentured servant and a slave.

By contrast however, around 13 million African's were transported to the Western Hemisphere as slaves. So we are talking about a factor of 100 difference between the two.

Now I'm certain that what the Irish, who were slaves, went through was quite horrendous, but the magnitude of the horror Africans went through was vastly greater if only because of the number involved, the racial dynamic involved which they could not escape which was not involved with the Irish, and the number who died during the entirety of the slave trade (estimated to be in the millions).

Despite his best attempts not to, meesterperfect raises a good point!

How can you decry a girl as "racist" if she won't do black guys yet demand she do black guys for no other apparent reason than their skin color? Fixating on race one way or the other is racism, regardless of the angle or argument IMO.

Regardless, I think the two best answers have already been raised:

1. Porn viewers (at least the vocal ones) are never satisfied if a girl hasn't done everything possible. Just read a Next Door Nikki or Denise Milani thread to see how many people moan about a girl's not doing for them.

2. Some viewers don't like it because it interferes with their ability to fantasize.

In debates matters are usually never concluded as people are rarely persuaded by an opposing viewpoint, but I would like to know how you believe someone asking a girl to do scenes with a particular race is racism and equivalent to the racism that may be involved when many of these female performers believe themselves to be superior to a particular race and thus deciding not to do a scene with that particular race, but not having a problem with doing scenes with every other race in this country?

Furthermore, racial discrimination with regards to who these women decide to work with has many reasons, but given the pathetic history of the USA it's obvious that animosity and historical discrimination towards Blacks is a large factor involved.

 

[beauregard]

I assume that's the tactic nowadays? To say there were Irish slaves as well, so African slavery wasn't that significant so some can sleep better at night?

And since numbers matter to many let's make it a numbers game.

Based on what I've read, some have estimated that up to 100,000 Irish were transported to the West Indies as indentured servants and slaves. And there is quite a difference between being an indentured servant and a slave.

By contrast however, around 13 million African's were transported to the Western Hemisphere as slaves. So we are talking about a factor of 100 difference between the two.

Now I'm certain that what the Irish who were in fact slaves went through was quite horrendous, but the magnitude of the horror Africans went through was vastly greater if only because of the number involved, the racial dynamic involved which they could not escape which was not involved with the Irish, and the number who died during the entirety of the slave trade (estimated to be in the millions).

After sending off the irish men to be slaves to english land owners in America and West Indies, they got tired of having women and kids around, so what to do? Sell them into slavery.
They were not indentured servants, and could never buy their freedom back.
Indentured servitude is an agreement between two parties that one would work for a set number of years for passage or a house/farm, etc. Between two parties, not 1.


Dear god, educate yourself please.
http://afgen.com/forgotten_slaves.html

50 sterling for an african slave, or 5 for an irishman, jeez, I wonder who was treated better?

http://www.giftofireland.com/IrishSlaves.htm

To end this barbarity, Colonel William Brayne wrote to English authorities in 1656 urging the importation of Negro slaves on the grounds that, "as the planters would have to pay much more for them, they would have an interest in preserving their lives, which was wanting in the case of (Irish)...." many of whom, he charged, were killed by overwork and cruel treatment. African Negroes cost generally about 20 to 50 pounds Sterling, compared to 900 pounds of cotton (about 5 pounds Sterling) for an Irish.

Or how about this quote, which seems right up your alley:

The planters quickly began breeding the comely Irish women, not just because they were attractive, but because it was profitable,,, as well as pleasurable. Children of slaves were themselves slaves, and although an Irish woman may become free, her children were not. Naturally, most Irish mothers remained with their children after earning their freedom. Planters then began to breed Irish women with African men to produce more slaves who had lighter skin and brought a higher price. The practice became so widespread that in 1681, legislation was passed “forbidding the practice of mating Irish slave women to African slave men for the purpose of producing slaves for sale.” This legislation was not the result of any moral or racial consideration, but rather because the practice was interfering with the profits of the Royal African Company!

And yes, this is something I have researched, as my ancestors fled to the new world before being sold into slavery by Cromwell and England.

Yes, there were an estimated 13 million africans (many sold as spoils of war by other africans) in slavery. But there were vast numbers of irish people that endured conditions worse than what many african slaves went through.

Btw, did you know africans also owned plantations and slaves?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsley_Plantation

Slavery under Spain in Florida was not considered a lifelong condition, and free blacks were involved in the economic development of the region, many of them owning their own slaves

 

[Spreeuw]

I assume that's the tactic nowadays? To say there were Irish slaves as well, so African slavery wasn't that significant so some can sleep better at night?

And since numbers matter to many let's make it a numbers game.

Based on what I've read, some have estimated that up to 100,000 Irish were transported to the West Indies as indentured servants and slaves. And there is quite a difference between being an indentured servant and a slave.

By contrast however, around 13 million African's were transported to the Western Hemisphere as slaves. So we are talking about a factor of 100 difference between the two.

Now I'm certain that what the Irish, who were slaves, went through was quite horrendous, but the magnitude of the horror Africans went through was vastly greater if only because of the number involved, the racial dynamic involved which they could not escape which was not involved with the Irish, and the number who died during the entirety of the slave trade (estimated to be in the millions).





In debates matters are usually never concluded as people are rarely persuaded by an opposing viewpoint, but I would like to know how you believe someone asking a girl to do scenes with a particular race is racism and equivalent to the racism that may be involved when many of these female performers believe themselves to be superior to a particular race and thus deciding not to do a scene with that particular race, but not having a problem with doing scenes with every other race in this country?

Furthermore, racial discrimination with regards to who these women decide to work with has many reasons, but given the pathetic history of the USA it's obvious that animosity and historical discrimination towards Blacks is a large factor involved.

Well z9, I'm a little bit puzzled too. How can it not be racism if you discriminate on race? TC is perhaps feeling a bit frustrated, perhaps he just got dumped or something, but he's asking the wrong question.
The real "racist issue" question is: How can it be that fucking a black guy is considered a niche, "normal" people fuck white people I guess?

That question being posed, and my opinion being that it is in fact racism, I do think there is no one to blame for. It's a matter of supply and demand, and obviously white people are a lot more in demand. End of story.

 

[vodkazvictim]

Indian (as in South Asian guy here), I would definitely not date or screw a White chick. Don't say I can't get one because most guys of all backgrounds I know can easily get an innocent White girl ready to split her legs for anyone.

Why not date a white gal? Where else do you think you'll get a blonde/redhead/brunette?
Where else will you get green/blue/grey/hazel eyes?
Where else will you get the distinctive and attractive facial features white gals have?
What's wrong with white gals? I find it surprising that you, growing up in the usa, wouldn't have had a white gal. If you haven't, maybe you have a problem with whites...

Since the thread is about interracial porn, specifically white women with black men. Why don’t you use your superior powers of deductive reasoning, genius?

I was just being a pedant and throwing a spanner in the works by pointing out that slavery is not a thing of the past and is still ongoing.

vodka likes to break my balls too but i'll defend him here.
he made a good point, maybe you cant see it,as did beauregard too.

Don't worry; my normal service of useless crap posts will be resumed.

it's funny you mention that because a few weeks ago a guy sent me an email and said that i would never really go anywhere in porn until i start adding black guys to my site.

You've already gotten somewhere in porn. In fact you're really quite high up in the industry I believe.

How can you decry a girl as "racist" if she won't do black guys yet demand she do black guys for no other apparent reason than their skin color? Fixating on race one way or the other is racism, regardless of the angle or argument IMO

^^This

I assume that's the tactic nowadays? To say there were Irish slaves as well, so African slavery wasn't that significant so some can sleep better at night?

STOP YOUR BULLSHIT RIGHT THERE! YOU CANNOT, ABSOLUTELY CANNOT, CRY THE SAME CRY TWICE IN ONE THREAD WITHOUT DEFENDING IT THE FIRST TIME!

You said that whole tactic shit when I pointed out other things about slavery, I challenged you on it and you didn't say a fucking thing.
Didn't stop you falsely claiming that whitey is trying to excuse his actions a second time, as I've quoted just here, did it?
GET THE FUCK OVER YOUR VICTIM MENTALITY.
Nobody is denying deep-south slavery is bad, nobody is trying to make it look any less significant.
It was bad (in fact awful), it happened, but don't falsely claim we're trying to make it look better by comparing it to (for example) the slavery of the Slavs (that's right; a whole subgroup of the caucasian race is named Slav, meaning SLAVE - but hey, lets not bring that up, because it would make the suffering of black slaves less significant - yeah, you see how bad your point looks if made in reverse?) by the invading mongols because we are not.

I repeat, GET RID OF YOUR VICTIM MENTALITY and be prepared to defend any point you make.

And yes, I am going to apologise to any Arabs who want to feel guilty for not mentioning that they had African slaves way before whitey arrived on the subcontinent. I'm sorry people, please forgive.

Somebody please ban the Z9102 :ban:

 

[z9102]

After sending off the irish men to be slaves to english land owners in America and West Indies, they got tired of having women and kids around, so what to do? Sell them into slavery.
They were not indentured servants, and could never buy their freedom back.
Indentured servitude is an agreement between two parties that one would work for a set number of years for passage or a house/farm, etc. Between two parties, not 1.


And yes, this is something I have researched, as my ancestors fled to the new world before being sold into slavery by Cromwell and England.

That sounds quite unfortunate for the Irish who had to endure such treatment.

But since you want to make this a competition of who suffered more: the Irish or Black Africans, know that the number of Irish who were slaves and endured such horrific treatment pales in comparison to the around 13 million Black Africans who were transported to the Western Hemisphere and treated as property for at least 350 years.

And you mentioned that your ancestors fled Ireland to come to the New World.

I assume they came here freely?

Well Blacks weren't so lucky. Most of them were brought here by force.

Well z9, I'm a little bit puzzled too. How can it not be racism if you discriminate on race? TC is perhaps feeling a bit frustrated, perhaps he just got dumped or something, but he's asking the wrong question.
The real "racist issue" question is: How can it be that fucking a black guy is considered a niche, "normal" people fuck white people I guess?

In that instance the only people being discriminated against would be Blacks since certain performers would refuse to work with them because of their race.

 

[magicspore]

Point?

blacks obsessing over whites and not the other way around?

 

[magicspore]

You beat me to it.


Revamp, go back to India and see how many white chicks you bed.

Obviously not too many since they tend to judge an Indian according to the way they stare down a white woman in public. Not all Indians are obsessed with white skin and those who are will always be the ones wanking.

 

[shimmy2]

 

[itcouldbeme]

Damn...

Nothing gets the board all lathered up more than a good old racial throwdown...

 

[Bearded_Menace]

Damn...

Nothing gets the board all lathered up more than a good old racial throwdown...

Yeah, I know. I betcha a bottle of wine that this is mostly stirred up by Americans.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

That sounds quite unfortunate for the Irish who had to endure such treatment.

But since you want to make this a competition of who suffered more: the Irish or Black Africans, know that the number of Irish who were slaves and endured such horrific treatment pales in comparison to the around 13 million Black Africans who were transported to the Western Hemisphere and treated as property for at least 350 years.

And you mentioned that your ancestors fled Ireland to come to the New World.

I assume they came here freely?

Well Blacks weren't so lucky. Most of them were brought here by force.




In that instance the only people being discriminated against would be Blacks since certain performers would refuse to work with them because of their race.

Too bad for you though that it was only a handful of millions of whites who were in the slave business. Sure wasn't my ancestors, and I don't give a damn one way or the other because of it.

 

[~~whimsy~~]

This whole thread is just really stupid and should be taken out back and shot...

...in a really horrific way.

 

[FOACCOUNT!@#$%]

it's funny you mention that because a few weeks ago a guy sent me an email and said that i would never really go anywhere in porn until i start adding black guys to my site.

lol

 

[FOACCOUNT!@#$%]

Why not date a white gal? Where else do you think you'll get a blonde/redhead/brunette?
Where else will you get green/blue/grey/hazel eyes?
Where else will you get the distinctive and attractive facial features white gals have?
What's wrong with white gals? I find it surprising that you, growing up in the usa, wouldn't have had a white gal. If you haven't, maybe you have a problem with whites...

I have White friends but no attraction what so ever to White girls, there are exceptions which are few far and inbetween but brown women get the best of me

 

[roronoa3000]

Utterly horrific.

 

[sualcalay]

Alright bro...where did you get that shirt I need one!! :1orglaugh