Peace in the middle east

How would you create peace?


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PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
Kill the hamas, the fatah and the al aqsah martyr brigade leaders, they are the ones who are the reason of why peace has never been achieved in the middle east.

:georges:

Everyone should get together over a nice cold Fanta and talk things out.

If that doesn't work, we bomb them all and get rid of everyone in one swoop.
 

Namreg

Banned
a jewish friend told me a joke today; it is a joke, don't take it seriously. :)

what do you call an arab in the ocean?
- pollution.

what do you call all the arabs in the ocean?
- solution.
 

Philbert

Banned
One thing that always strikes me: Both sides (especially the folks who never have been to Israel or the Middle East) tend to portray the other party as a monolithic bloc.

Neither is there "one Israel" as there is "one Arabia". Israel is probably one of the most fractured societies in the world with conflicting interest groups constantly at loggerheads (secularists vs. Orthodox, sabras vs. immigrants, Chassidim vs. Azhkenazim, etc.)

Chassids are a religious sect from Europe and are a small group...Ashknazim are European descent Jews as opposed to Sephardic Jews, Arabic descent Jews. Chassidim are by definition Ashkenazim...
 

JayJohn85

Banned
Mutual respect, Acknowledging that everyone has needs, We are all more similiar than our differences.
Religion isnt the problem Namreg is right, Guys who make there money and living from extreme shit will always exist. Yes you get idiots duped into it who are often completely zealous but 100 per cent of the time there some fat cat, mulla, crime lord, Government or Terrorist leader behind it whos getting rich at the expense of others blood
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
There is not nor has there ever been a country called Palestine. The whole area was promised to the Hebrews 5000 or so years ago in a covenant with God.

The mere existence of Israel is a thorn in the side of every other country in that region and I am glad for that. Every time some camel humping extremist steps out of line they have to worry about the chosen people coming back at them like a kosher terminator.

The muslims in the mid east always cite the Crusades as the most evil occupation of all time yet they conveniently forget the Moorish occupation of Iberia and their forced conversion to Islam of the population. And they drag out the Crusades at every opportunity to criticize our current involvement in two shit holes. I don't think our troops are over there to forcefully convert anyone to Christianity.......at least I haven't heard of any large scale efforts to that end.

While nuking Mecca, Medina, Tehran and Damascus is a really appealing option to me, I know that is not the way to win over the hearts and minds of everyone in the region, with the possible exception of the Israelis.

No one has the answer to this whole mess and the powers that be are damned if they do, damned if they don't.

The U.S. and the U.K. are obligated to support morally,financially and militarily the state of Israel because of the state of affairs in the world after WWII. That support should continue regardless of party line.
 

lechepicha

Prince of the Rotten Milk
a jewish friend told me a joke today; it is a joke, don't take it seriously. :)

what do you call an arab in the ocean?
- pollution.

what do you call all the arabs in the ocean?
- solution.

it's probably pretty obvious, but my guess it's that is derived from the good ol' lawyers joke:

What do you call 100 lawyers chained together at the bottom of the ocean?

A good start!


:thefinger
 

Wainkerr99

Closed Account
I voted with the hope of diplomacy.But the whole issue with Israel and it's
neighbours will never be resolved,unless a miracle is performed by either
God or Allah.

So all I can say is thank god i'm a Scottish Boy :D

You can keep Scotland luddie. It's too friggin' cold. The Highlands are heartstopping though.

The Arabs will not change. They are obtuse. Besides, almost each and every one of them is brainwashed, filled with hate and rage beyond redemption in the present generation.

It is like myself trying to be big buds with black folk. As much as I wish I could join in the conversation, hang, I know just to keep my mouth shut and avoid eye contact. I don't understand what they are prattling about, I don't appreciate the constant life-threatening, militant demand for 'respect', and I sure as nuts can't stand their music.

I never felt such pure racial hatred from a people until I came to the US. This, from an ex South African.

Yet, here we are, all getting along just fine. If I do happen to bump heads with someone, I feel fairly confident we can rationally, calmly talk and explain differences without resorting to violence, at least in most cases.

I can in any case be quite a duffer and put my foot in in my mouth when I speak so I would rather shut up, listen and try learn.

This is because I am willing to change. (And I don't want to be beaten to death).

So, it can happen.

However, when it is a matter of national pride+Jihad+we hate Israel+Israel in encroaching left, right and centre, things take on a different meaning. They go up to a whole new level.

There is very little opportunity, motivation and will to concede on both sides.

As far as I have seen over the years, Israel has not allowed Palestinians easy access over their borders, for good reason. This has damaged everyday life, commerce, socail life in Palestine.

Put yourself in the Palestinians' shoes. You want to live a normal life, trade, raise your children, but when you step too far outside the door, there is a gun pointed at your head.

People are people. I am sure deep down the Palestinians just want to lead an ordinary life, but their hands are tied, both by the Israelis and within their own 'state', Hamas on the one hand and Fatah on the other.

Ever since British rule these people have been controlled by an external force. No wonder they want their own statehood.

I have always maintained the future lies with the children. If they can play together, work together, the next generation is taken care of. There has to be agreement on the part of parents to allow a curriculum to exist that would allow for peace. There then has to be cross border schooling. That is the solution.

However, like Bob Dylan said, 'The answer my friend, is blowing in the wind.'
 
I don't think peace will ever happen there...
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
I don't think peace will ever happen there...

I tend to agree with you. Both sides are relying on arguments from over a thousand years ago. The only thing that's certain is that the American taxpayer will be forced to shovel tens of billions each year into this rathole. And since both major parties here support that, it will continue.
 
Chassids are a religious sect from Europe and are a small group...Ashknazim are European descent Jews as opposed to Sephardic Jews, Arabic descent Jews. Chassidim are by definition Ashkenazim...

Sorry, I meant Sephardim. That doesn't weaken my argument, though. :angels:
 
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