Our Biggest Race Issue: The Fears of White People

Well I see Mariah accomplished what she intended to with this thread . BTW there is a simple answer to why more whites are receiving public assistance than blacks. There are more whites.
 
Sure its easy to say "Well if they voted they could make a difference" but let's be honest Bob, that would NOT be a difference you or those who think like you would want. For example, in the south the districts are so carved up (gerrymandered) to the benefit of the republicans that 100% of the blacks could vote and it wouldn't make a difference in any way other than their city council. Election days need to be required paid holidays or held on weekends so that working people can vote. That would make more people see the value in it also.
And even if they wanted too, many of them wouldn't vote, becuse of all these voter ID laws that republicans passed to by republican to be sure that not too many blacks can vote...

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Someone please inform Mariah that a lot if southern states had and have democrat controlled legislatures that gerrymandered in favor of Dems for a very long time. My state for example has the first Republican controlled senate and house since reconstruction . I would tell her directly but she is too busy posting just to see herself post.
 
And even if they wanted too, many of them wouldn't vote, becuse of all these voter ID laws that republicans passed to by republican to be sure that not too many blacks can vote...

Voter ID is a ALEC model bill that is not only for minorities but also for the elderly and college students studying outside their home state from voting. It hurts the elderly like a poll tax because most don't know where their birth certificate are and they get the run around paying for a new one and paying for a ID to vote where they always have for years.

Also that religious freedom law in Indiana was a ALEC model bill.












............so was Stand Your Ground was a ALEC model bill so scared whites can shot blacks with immunity.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
And even if they wanted too, many of them wouldn't vote, becuse of all these voter ID laws that republicans passed to by republican to be sure that not too many blacks can vote...

Anyone can get a State issued I.D. card, at the same place you would get a drivers license. Why is it such a big deal to make sure someone only votes once, and is who they say they are, when they vote? You have to show I.D. to buy booze, you need it to receive medical treatment, and to get a library card, and just about everything. Showing I'D' to vote is not unacceptable, it's responsible. Assuring that one person, votes one time, is the way it should be, and don't for one minute tell me, if there was a case that voter fraud was suspected, and it was because of multiple votes, by the same person, and the elected official was someone you didn't want to win, you wouldn't be wanting answers as to why this person got to vote more then once.
 
Although voter fraud is an issue in America, the ways in which voter fraud occur may be different from what you think. On our site we answer questions like, “does voter fraud exist”, “How are voter id laws impacting the country?”, “Is voter fraud really threatening our democracy?”, and “is individual voter fraud a problem in the first place?”

Out of the 197 million votes cast for federal candidates between 2002 and 2005, only 40 voters were indicted for voter fraud. Only 26 of those cases, or about .00000013 percent of the votes cast, resulted in convictions or guilty pleas.

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Electoral Fraud, PAC money, and Party Politics

Historically both Libertarian and Republican backed organizations have helped to spread talking points and draft legislation to prevent low-incomes families, students, seniors, and “minorities” from voting.

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On the other hand, Democrats know that if everyone voted they would win most elections around the country as Democrats tend to pass laws that benefit those most likely not to vote or to not be able to vote under restrictive voting conditions. Organizations like ACORN have been accused of facilitating individual voter fraud.

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While the above truisms may overshadow the voter fraud debate, it doesn’t excuse or explain away the history of voter fraud in America. This site recognizes truisms, but the intention isn’t to demonize a political party or to push a political agenda. We simply aim to uncover and present the facts on voting. One of the most important aspects of our Democracy.

At Voter fraud facts we take an in depth look at voter id laws, voter fraud myths and other voter suppression tactics meant to prevent voter turnout.

Between 2000 and 2010 there were 649 million votes cast in general elections and 13 cases of in-person voter impersonation.


Get the Voter Fraud Facts on Voter ID

Here in 2015 one of the main sources of voter fraud controversy are Voter ID laws. Some label these as the modern day poll tax, others say they protect our democracy against individual voter fraud.
Voter ID law require a valid form of ID to vote.
At the turn of the 20th century the south enforced a poll tax to prevent poor people, specifically black people from voter registration and voting.
Voter ID laws are seen by some as a modern form of poll tax as many of the countries poorest will not vote due to a lack of proper state issued ID.
2% of voting-age US citizens don’t have a valid form of state ID. In order to obtain a “free ID” they need a certified copy of a birth certificate which costs from $10 to $45 depending on the state, a passport which costs $85, and certified naturalization papers which cost $19.95.


What is Voter Fraud / Electoral Fraud?

Voter Fraud (officially called electoral fraud) is the act of illegally tampering with an election. Although the major issue being discussed by talking heads is voter ID fraud there are a number of different types of voter fraud.

Make sure you know exactly what voter fraud statistics are being discussed when you read an article or listen to a talking heads. The severity of the fraud problem can be greatly blown out of proportion by quoting other voter fraud stats instead of voter ID statistics specifically when debating the validity of voter ID laws.


Types of Voter Fraud

Types of voter fraud include intimidation, vote buying, misinformation, misleading / confusing ballot papers, ballot stuffing, mis-recording of votes, misuses of proxy votes, destruction / invalidation of ballots, and tampering with electronic voting machines.
http://voterfraudfacts.com/

To get rid of 26 voter fraud cases, Republicans would disenfranchised 2.000.000 people. Or force them to pay $110 to $155. That's a lot of money when you're on minimum wage. Probably enough to convince a person that it is not worth of it, that she surely could fin a much more useful way to spend that money. And that's exactly what Republicans want...
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Well first of all, I wasn't dragging this down partisan lines....but since that seems to be your goal, you aren't going to tell me that handing the keys to the United States, and the rights associated with her, to every illegal alien that wants it, by the democrates isn't a shady ass move to get democrates re-elected?!?!

So Where are you getting this $110 figure from? Is that what you think an I.D. costs? My drivers license is about $60, and a state issued photo I.D. cost less then that, and bus fare to the location is even less. If a cop asks you for I.D., what are you going to show them? They will take you in, if you refuse, or don't have one...they aren't going to just let a potential warrant walk away. Do you realize the number of criminals that have been caught by a simple traffic stop? Fuck, even if it's a photo collage I'D', or a CCW license, or a fucking bus pass...you should have to show a photo I.D., to vote. If you're a senior citizen, and are unable to get to the BMV, then tax dollars should be allocated to come to you. And really dude, this has absolutely nothing to do with party lines, this is about being as accurate, and fair as possible to EVERY American, no matter whom they will be voting for.
 
Well first of all, I wasn't dragging this down partisan lines....but since that seems to be your goal, you aren't going to tell me that handing the keys to the United States, and the rights associated with her, to every illegal alien that wants it, by the democrates isn't a shady ass move to get democrates re-elected?!?!
This happens only in your republican fantasy world



So Where are you getting this $110 figure from? Is that what you think an I.D. costs?
It's called "maths"
2% of voting-age US citizens don’t have a valid form of state ID. In order to obtain a “free ID” they need a certified copy of a birth certificate which costs from $10 to $45 depending on the state, a passport which costs $85, and certified naturalization papers which cost $19.95.



And really dude, this has absolutely nothing to do with party lines, this is about being as accurate, and fair as possible to EVERY American, no matter whom they will be voting for.
Then why only Republicans are pushing fro voter ID laws ? Why so many red states have voter ID laws ?
 
hey Blue cuntscratch have you seen the new republican poll tax that's being proposed by scott walker? Brilliant tactics on your side and in the same breath they deny trying to keep people from the polls.

So do you deny that the ONLY way that your party can win a major election is if the dems dont show up to vote? If you do deny it then you my friend have answered one very big question I've had since our first run in.
 
Well first of all, I wasn't dragging this down partisan lines....but since that seems to be your goal, you aren't going to tell me that handing the keys to the United States, and the rights associated with her, to every illegal alien that wants it, by the democrates isn't a shady ass move to get democrates re-elected?!?!

So Where are you getting this $110 figure from? Is that what you think an I.D. costs? My drivers license is about $60, and a state issued photo I.D. cost less then that, and bus fare to the location is even less. If a cop asks you for I.D., what are you going to show them? They will take you in, if you refuse, or don't have one...they aren't going to just let a potential warrant walk away. Do you realize the number of criminals that have been caught by a simple traffic stop? Fuck, even if it's a photo collage I'D', or a CCW license, or a fucking bus pass...you should have to show a photo I.D., to vote. If you're a senior citizen, and are unable to get to the BMV, then tax dollars should be allocated to come to you. And really dude, this has absolutely nothing to do with party lines, this is about being as accurate, and fair as possible to EVERY American, no matter whom they will be voting for.

There's that horrific texas version of English. you said "a state issued I.D. costs less THEN that" do you see your error that fuckface or is that the shit kicker version of grammar? And wherever your people are from, Polland probably, they were once illegals as well. Your side hires the vast majority of them for shit wages to keep profit margins more attractive. You should show an ID to vote just like you should be required to have a registration for every gun you own.

I believe that the states should mail every citizen who wants one a free state ID card if they can't afford one. They should also send them mail in ballots. Imagine if they did that the freakout your side would have! All those lost elections and the death of the conservative party. The day is coming you racist texas cuckold twink.
 
hey Blue cuntscratch have you seen the new republican poll tax that's being proposed by scott walker? Brilliant tactics on your side and in the same breath they deny trying to keep people from the polls.

So do you deny that the ONLY way that your party can win a major election is if the dems dont show up to vote? If you do deny it then you my friend have answered one very big question I've had since our first run in.

But, but, but this a free country with liberty and justice for all!
In terms of creed but the whole world knows this a BS racist society run in secret by the Koch Bros and ALEC now shaping the country in hidden tyranny for non WASP.

Now enter the USA USA USA loving bigots of the FOs P&R board!
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
This happens only in your republican fantasy world



It's called "maths"



Then why only Republicans are pushing fro voter ID laws ? Why so many red states have voter ID laws ?

You don't need a passport to get an I.D. as far as naturalization papers go, wouldn't they issue those when you become a citizen? Any American born here, can make the effort to get a birth certificate, lets face it, if you're spending ANY cash on smokes or booze, you can come up with the cash for the important things.

Hey piggy, my people are Sicilian, I'm not from Texas, I'm not a republican..........but you're still a useless cunt. I do get a ballot mailed to me, in Ohio, and it's good you know how to use the grammar check on MS office, I hope you teach your little bastard how to use it to. Maybe his girlfriend will be smarter then you, or your mother before, and swallow the load, that produces the next generation of you.
 
Hey piggy, my people are Sicilian, I'm not from Texas, I'm not a republican..........but you're still a useless cunt. I do get a ballot mailed to me, in Ohio, and it's good you know how to use the grammar check on MS office, I hope you teach your little bastard how to use it to. Maybe his girlfriend will be smarter then you, or your mother before, and swallow the load, that produces the next generation of you.

Haha bigot! You mad?

I only pray you don't have any offspring polluting the earth with more KKK future members :)
 
hey Blue cuntscratch have you seen the new republican poll tax that's being proposed by scott walker? Brilliant tactics on your side and in the same breath they deny trying to keep people from the polls.

So do you deny that the ONLY way that your party can win a major election is if the dems dont show up to vote? If you do deny it then you my friend have answered one very big question I've had since our first run in.
My party does not try to keep valid votes from showing up at the polls, but they do advocate for qualified and identified voters. The problem is not whether your side shows up it is whether my side shows up. You act as though republicans have not won a national election in 50 years when in fact it has been roughly only 10 years since they won one.

Obama tried to turn out the vote last fall and failed to do so even after saying his policies were on the ballot. Another thing and I wasn't going to mention this but you were on your high horse proclaiming repubs would lose seats in 2014 and I took you up on it. You were sure your people would turn out and they didn't. I was right and you were wrong. I can at least take satisfaction in that. And finally, as much as you may try to cause a major flame war between us it is not going to be reciprocated this time around. So just continue with your stupid name games if that gives you your jollies. You are starting to sound like Philbert.
 
^^^^^^^^^^
haha BC!

Keep showing progress winning mid-terms when Dems don't show up.

How did that work out in 2012?

Reason why Wisconsin has this punk bitch fat chick loving Kochsucker Scott Walker!

Scott Walker, FUCK THAT *****! (Stealing this from the UK player on UW's Center :) )

And Motherfuck the far right Kochsuckers GOP supporters here! Greedy racists idiots who only care about excess material goods!

Get mad :)
 
Whodini will remake "Freaks Come Out At Night" to "The Bigots Come Out On The Net".

Standing in line brainwashed on the Koch Bros racist policies to get a chance to lock your jaws on their jocks.

We do what we are told by Fox News.


FUCK AMERICA BITCHES.
 
MBG

You on absinthe or something? lol

Nope :)

Just fuck this fucked up racist country as the bigots want to take us back to the Jim Crow days as they preach liberty and democracy across the world that is a farse here! :)

Have a great Sunday night BC! Must be nice to have money and not our bros in the black community called white trash :)
 
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