Osama Bin Laden Dead?

He is either dead or he isn't. I'm not going to hold my breath or worry about it until there is evidence that says he is. I wonder if Osama is even that important anymore other than for sentimental reason for his supporters and his enemies.
 
I wonder if Osama is even that important anymore other than for sentimental reason
Capturing and putting to trial someone who orchestrated the murder of 3000 of our citizens seems like it should be important to me....


cheers,
 
Capturing and putting to trial someone who orchestrated the murder of 3000 of our citizens seems like it should be important to me....


cheers,

3000 people in one shot, fair enough, he should be brought to trial.

What about someone who does 2000 a month (or was it a week) ? Should that person be brough to trial? I'd think so. Look no further than Bush.
 
3000 people in one shot, fair enough, he should be brought to trial.

What about someone who does 2000 a month (or was it a week) ? Should that person be brough to trial? I'd think so. Look no further than Bush.

look, we all know bush is wrong. lets not keep making him the scapegoat. its not just bush. its the entire us government. honestly, do you guys think dudya is smart enough to orchestrate anything? not by himself.
 
look, we all know bush is wrong. lets not keep making him the scapegoat. its not just bush. its the entire us government. honestly, do you guys think dudya is smart enough to orchestrate anything? not by himself.

Thank you, it took that long to get the point out of you.

Bin Ladin is still a figurehead, a figurehead that at one point in time was under the employ and sponsership of the US government. Back when the Hanbali values were attuned to what the States wanted based off a fatwa that declared communism an "offense". Now, do you think Bin Ladin planned, deployed and trained the people who were involved in the attack? Probably not. It doesn't make him any less innocent, much like my case against Bush. I bring this up because in all facts of the word, Bin Laden gets used as a scapegoat whereas the actual issue is completely avoided in a twist of words and policy.

So I tell you again, it doesn't matter if Bin Laden is dead or alive, what matters is that the less we think about him now the better it is for Bush.
 
Thank you, it took that long to get the point out of you.

Bin Ladin is still a figurehead, a figurehead that at one point in time was under the employ and sponsership of the US government. Back when the Hanbali values were attuned to what the States wanted based off a fatwa that declared communism an "offense". Now, do you think Bin Ladin planned, deployed and trained the people who were involved in the attack? Probably not. It doesn't make him any less innocent, much like my case against Bush. I bring this up because in all facts of the word, Bin Laden gets used as a scapegoat whereas the actual issue is completely avoided in a twist of words and policy.

So I tell you again, it doesn't matter if Bin Laden is dead or alive, what matters is that the less we think about him now the better it is for Bush.

its a proven fact that bin laden was behind it all. now, he most likely isnt. bin laden WAS behind the towers. its a known fact that he at least was in on it. was he the only one? no way. but, you are right. bin laden , now, is just a figurehead. but in 2001, he was behind the attacks on us soil. now he cant do anything. someone else has stepped up and taken control. the point i was trying to prove was, that bush is not evil. btw, what do you mean by " it took this long to get the point out of me"?
 
Capturing and putting to trial someone who orchestrated the murder of 3000 of our citizens seems like it should be important to me....

Absolutely, I would hunt him down like any other major criminal. Getting him for justice is a sentimental reason. Getting him to stop more terrorist plots is a tactical one, and we want him just as much for sentiment as we do any other reason. As far as being a terrorist mastermind that will drastically reduce the amount of terror on the world when he is caught, he isn't as important as he used to be. Just like any other person that did what he did and is still trying to do, I would try to apprehend him, but I wouldn't put an disproportionate amount of resources into it to the point of reducing your chance to stop targets that are even more likely to do you harm in the meantime.
 

DrMotorcity

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Everytime a Terrorist Mastermind dies, there is kid born in to a terrorist family...
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...Just like any other person that did what he did and is still trying to do, I would try to apprehend him, but I wouldn't put an disproportionate amount of resources into it to the point of reducing your chance to stop targets that are even more likely to do you harm in the meantime.

Excellent (and rep-worthy) point!

As the ever-quotable Secretary of Defense once said about Bin Laden, "Either he is alive and well, or he is alive and not well... or he's dead."

Twisted sister... twisted sister... (?!)
 

dave_rhino

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Capturing and putting to trial someone who orchestrated the murder of 3000 of our citizens seems like it should be important to me....

"The FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden with the 9/11 attacks on america" - FBI spokesman Rex Tomb



just thought id post that
 
The USA can't even find out who killed Biggie and PAC how the hell they gonna find bin layden, let alone know whether he's dead or alive, wishful thinking I say. Anyway even if he is dead there is so much hatred against the USA in the world it would'nt make much difference, terrorism won't stop until the USA remove themselves from the middle east via negotiations. You cannot impose a eurosentric ideal on the non white world and expect them to accept. I am not for Terrorism at all, talks are the only way forward there has to be give and take.
 
Getting him for justice is a sentimental reason.
Have you said that to the families of the victims?

"Nah. Justice for the fucker who killed your loved ones is just a sentimental reason".

Getting him to stop more terrorist plots is a tactical one, and we want him just as much for sentiment as we do any other reason.
I'm not speaking of sentiment - Justice is never about sentiment. Dude just murdered 3000 of our fellow citizens and he should be punished for his crimes.

As far as being a terrorist mastermind that will drastically reduce the amount of terror on the world when he is caught, he isn't as important as he used to be. Just like any other person that did what he did and is still trying to do, I would try to apprehend him, but I wouldn't put an disproportionate amount of resources into it to the point of reducing your chance to stop targets that are even more likely to do you harm in the meantime.
That's not the point.

Or are you saying "Kids, if you want to commit a crime, think big. The bigger your crime, the less the chance that the law will try to prosecute you for it because they will be more interested in "stopping" the next one" ?

I don't care about his "importance to the current jihadist movement" - I care about bringing a mass murderer to justice.

Sorry D-man, but I gotta disagree with you on this one.

cheers,
 

georges

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well I think he is hidden somewhere in the forbidden areas of Pakistan. I don't think he is dead but very sick. The best judgement for him would have his head blown by a cal 50 bmg bullet. One canadian sniper killed a taliban chief with a cal 50 rifle from a distance of 2450m. This is the kind of death Ben Laden desserves.
 

dave_rhino

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well I think he is hidden somewhere in the forbidden areas of Pakistan. I don't think he is dead but very sick. The best judgement for him would have his head blown by a cal 50 bmg bullet. One canadian sniper killed a taliban chief with a cal 50 rifle from a distance of 2450m. This is the kind of death Ben Laden desserves.

You mean a quick and painless death? No way.

Ebola, he needs to be infected with Ebola. Thats the worst fucking disease in the world.
 

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