Obama's approval rating falling...

How long till us not following the Constitution will this never ending charade stop.

Not following the Constitution how, exactly?

Please please tell me you're not still clinging desperately to the bogus and completely discredited birth certificate "issue"?

I guess he should apologise to you for not solving a national debt of one trillion in the space of one month. :crash:

Get real.

Amazing, isn't it? I've never even remotely seen a president come under this kind of ****** so early in his administration. The guy can't wipe his ass without some ass wipe starting a thread about what a failure he is at ass wiping! And this despite the fact few presidents have ever inherited a worse mess. Then again, I'm pretty sure I know why he's the target of all this irrational criticism, and it isn't based on his job performance.
 
Amazing, isn't it? I've never even remotely seen a president come under this kind of ****** so early in his administration.

Clinton was reamed out by the right wing from the day he was elected. I think Clinton got it worse in the early days of his Presidency. Clinton made Rush.
 
How long till us not following the Constitution will this never ending charade stop.

Not following the Constitution how, exactly?

Please please tell me you're not still clinging desperately to the bogus and completely discredited birth certificate "issue"?

No, it wasn't. :nono: :tongue:

More on Obama. (The "christed" one)

Obama's campaign has done a good job burying his take on firearms.

Most *** owners at least until recently have been misled by Senator Obama. Though he claims to be an advocate for the Second Amendment, his voting record in the Illinois Senate says otherwise. He voted for a bill that would ban nearly every hunting rifle, shotgun and target rifle owned by Illinois citizens.

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Hillary Clinton and John McCain both ripped into Barack Obama Friday for reportedly saying residents of small-town America "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them" out of bitterness over lost jobs.

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"Bitter American's are clinging to their guns and religions." Obama :rolleyes:
 
I take it that you read a lot of "conspiracy theory" websites.

Nope, just funny how Bush certificate or any other president was not sealed, yet Mr. O is and just afterwards his grandma dies...kinda weird.

Obama has been President for a month. No one has ever changed this country within a month's time, so why are you acting as if Obama is doing a terrible job, even though he hasn't had nearly enough time to do anything yet? You're probably one of those people that just doesn't like Obama for no real reason at all. You just want to be mad that the candidate you voted for isn't the President and you feel like complaining about everything that Obama does (or doesn't do), just to make yourself feel better.

It's been a month. Relax. Change doesn't happen overnight, especially when it comes to an entire country and all of it's citizens.


I guess you don't have to work and take care of a ******, so someone like Bush or Obama messing around and commiting billions of your tax money doesn't bother you...so tell me when exactly are we supposed to dissagree with this newbie radical we got as a president?

Change is not a platform to run on! Can you be anymore vague?

Exactly! what is change?? sadly some people still buy that change and hope, even if he downs this country every day when he talks about the coming depression.

Just for the record, (and independent of anything else in this thread) the Chief Justice messed up on the Oath.

true, but how weird it is that Chief Justice considers the second swearing serious enough to wear his attire and yet Mr. O doesn't even have the seriousness to find himself a bible that you can find anywhere and put his hand on it...weird...Obama just happens to always be around people who are always messing up

Not following the Constitution how, exactly?

Do you think that does $700 billion dollars that Bush ****** and the one bigger than Obama ****** is backed by the Constitution? Do you think that some of the laws ( like the Patriot Act, Wire tapping Act) which Bush ****** and most certainly Obama will use to the fullest is Constitutional? Keep your eyes out because I think weapons, military, national guard, our currency will be manipulated next among other things...

Please please tell me you're not still clinging desperately to the bogus and completely discredited birth certificate "issue"?


Mine bc is not sealed and so is any other president of the U.S., why is this guy getting special treatment? were you there before it went into the vault to say those are bogus claims??

Amazing, isn't it? I've never even remotely seen a president come under this kind of ****** so early in his administration. The guy can't wipe his ass without some ass wipe starting a thread about what a failure he is at ass wiping! And this despite the fact few presidents have ever inherited a worse mess. Then again, I'm pretty sure I know why he's the target of all this irrational criticism, and it isn't based on his job performance.

Are you kidding me?? The way this guy was sold to us, it was like he doesn't even have an ass to wipe. This guy was supposed to KO this recession with one wave of his mighty hand and sing the bail out of all bail outs and fix it, because "he had an economic plan" according to his adoring fans. He can't even get his cabinet people into place without them all having tax problems. Yeah evrything can be blame on Bush, yep...guess what buddy then he should have not runned for president. But ok we'll give this guy a break and more than one chance so that he can fuck things up more and when the **** comes down he can have total control over everything because that's where we heading if this bail out does not work and people keep losing their jobs, gas prices sky rockets, because in the name of electricity we became more oil dependent of OPEC and the dollar is worth **** paper. Then we can all go ahead and wipe our asses with the american dollar, now that's really going green.
 
I guess you don't have to work and take care of a ******, so someone like Bush or Obama messing around and commiting billions of your tax money doesn't bother you

Yeah, I guess my 60 hour, traveling work weeks and my *** don't qualify as having to work or taking care of a ******. Silly me.

...so tell me when exactly are we supposed to dissagree with this newbie radical we got as a president?

You're already disagreeing with him. I don't get what you're trying to say.
 
Just a general question/meditation. Since when do we care about Conservative-minded opinions on how to *fix* the economy when it was their policies we were following the past 8 years which created the misery that now needs to be fixed? In short, Conservative-minded people don't think anything is wrong with the country, and if you lost your job or your bank went under or you're in a mortgage you can't afford, than all of these are things you should've been aware of the moment you stepped out your front door. No events are *connected* and we should place full trust "in the market" to solve all of these problems.

Of course, the contraction in the above paragraph is not recognized.

Will E and his stormfront pals are separate from even discussing misguided Conservatives. Will E's crowd is actually loving the fact that "America" is collapsing on itself. So, again, people who don't want to solve any problem bring nothing but insincerity to the "table" anyway...
 
Change is not a platform to run on! Can you be anymore vague?

"We are now at war. At war with terrorism."
~George W Bush

That was incredibly vague.. ya know.. the whole point of the last president's two terms. We're at war with an idea? How can we win a battle against an intangible belief in doing harm to another country? You cant **** or imprison an idea.

Change makes sense if you disliked the last 8 years. The believers just liked the slogan and the inbetweeners who looked at both parties as possible candidates were also very likely adding to the 'disapproval' rating of GWB. Any port in a storm.. so long as it's a *change* from the last administration. 'Erego, if you return to the source.. zion will live on, the human race will continue to exist and .. oh wait ****, did I just slip into a Matrix dialogue?

::walks away shaking my head:: .... damn.

::walks back really quick:: Oh.. and small towns do actually cling to guns and religion. And a fuckload of *****. Yeah.
 
Yeah, I guess my 60 hour, traveling work weeks and my *** don't qualify as having to work or taking care of a ******. Silly me.

Well we happen to be in the same boat, I guess I care more about where my money that I don't have is going to be waste is where we differ.


You're already disagreeing with him. I don't get what you're trying to say.

Since he is a public servant anddnot the other way around, when exactly is it ok for me to dissagree with him? what is it going to take to some people, that we get hit with another 9/11 so then we dissagree with him?



Look I hated the past 8 years under Bush and his rep congress and then the dems took over it back in 2006 and they were wimps everytime Bush wantd something ******. Unlike a lot of Bush hatters out there, I and my ****** were affected by his stupid decisions directly since it sent me twice to Iraq. So upon my 8 year obligation and a war that I neve had agreed I got out of the service. So that was my way of dissagreing with him and I was pissed off when Bush got elected for second term, after the WMDs. all them leaks and his "mission acomplished" stunt, while I was dodgin bombs on the streets of Iraq.

So now a new guy gets elected, same **** different "fear tactics", but all or more of the same. So when are we suppose to not say anything bad about Obama? when can we dissagree with him? when he becomes uncool with is followers?
 
This is the reason I always hated everybody blaming Dubya for everthing. Congress had to present a bill to be signed. No matter what Obama wanted to be in that bill, it was going to be somthing completely overblown. Every Congressman and Senator wanted to get their own little piece of the pie. With all of the rhetoric about a new way of doing things in Washington, it's all going to come back to the same old posturing. Hope is not a strategy ang change is not a destination. Poeple are fickle and polls only show what a small percent of the populations mood is at a particular time. Liberal or conservitive doesn't matter. They are all polititions which usually translates to "full of ****".
 
damn those racist rednecks, they cant stand obama being in power, the country needs a free healthcare system, cheaper college tuition, and more access to social programs.
 
damn those racist rednecks, they cant stand obama being in power, the country needs a free healthcare system, cheaper college tuition, and more access to social programs.

:nono: This country does not need Socialism.

It must be all the "racist rednecks" that **** Obama. :rolleyes:

Did you see the HBO documentary, Right America: Feeling Wronged?

They interviewed two black guys and they called her a liberal.
And, told her she only came to Mississippi to make them look bad.
The dreaded "red" state.

But, it must be all whites "rednecks." Think again. :tongue:
 
The Honeymoon is wearing off ...

It was expected. A lot of Americans were proud that a man of African heritage made it to the White House. Now he's feeling the heat of the job.

Frankly, I don't pay attention to public opinion polls. Although he still has 2-3x the polls of not only W., but even the Democrat Congress. There's still more to fall for him, which he will.

Doesn't mean he's a bad or good President. And it's going to be at least two (2) years before we see and feel the effects of his actions going on right now.
 
damn those racist rednecks, they cant stand obama being in power, the country needs a free healthcare system, cheaper college tuition, and more access to social programs.

Cheaper college tuition, yes. It's proposterous what they charge for indoctrina....I mean, education these days. And usually, the liberal arts degrees that so many **** earn amount to toilet paper in the end. It's a sad and tragic higher educational system we have in America today. Both of my brothers have went tens of thousands into debt because they felt the only way to succeed was to proceed with a liberal arts education. Locally - at state levels - many states have systems implemented that are free healthcare, at least to some extent. You have to educate yourself on this matter. Look into your states healthcare system; it is likely that if you are poorer you will be eligible to some extent for healthcare relief. There are several states to my knowledge that actually have "free" healthcare for the needy. This is a fact.
 
Since he is a public servant anddnot the other way around, when exactly is it ok for me to dissagree with him? what is it going to take to some people, that we get hit with another 9/11 so then we dissagree with him?

First of all, he's not a public "servant". Technically, he's our leader. Also, he has only been in office for a month. NOBODY can make a huge change within a month, so there is absolutely no reason to complain about anything he has or hasn't done yet. To do so just shows a ridiculous, unwarranted impatience that is completely unjustified.

Look I hated the past 8 years under Bush and his rep congress and then the dems took over it back in 2006 and they were wimps everytime Bush wantd something ******. Unlike a lot of Bush hatters out there, I and my ****** were affected by his stupid decisions directly since it sent me twice to Iraq. So upon my 8 year obligation and a war that I neve had agreed I got out of the service. So that was my way of dissagreing with him and I was pissed off when Bush got elected for second term, after the WMDs. all them leaks and his "mission acomplished" stunt, while I was dodgin bombs on the streets of Iraq.

You willingly joined the Armed ******, which means that you willingly agreed to any form of service that the President would ask you to do. In your own words, you "obligated" yourself. President Bush didn't make you join the Armed ******. When you signed up for service, you were telling the United States and all of it's citizens that you agreed to do whatever it takes in order to protect our country.

Now, you're saying that you didn't agree with the war? No, wrong answer. Once you penned your name on the dotted line, you agreed to anything...including going to Iraq.

Also, President Obama had NOTHING to do with that. Once again, your disapproval with him is completely unwarranted and unjustified.

So now a new guy gets elected, same **** different "fear tactics", but all or more of the same. So when are we suppose to not say anything bad about Obama? when can we dissagree with him? when he becomes uncool with is followers?

You can disagree with him all you want, but quit ignoring the fact that he has only been President for A MONTH. You don't have to agree with every decision he makes, but stop talking about him like he is a terrible President. The guy has only been doing his job for a few weeks and you (and others) are already acting as if he is the worst thing that has ever happened to this country.

Give him a chance, stop this preemptive whining and give him a reasonable amount of time to make things happen before you condemn him.

You just seem like one of those people that isn't going to be happy with Obama until he makes your individual life a better one. You're probably not going to be happy until Obama creates a scenario in which you make $25/hour, are fully covered by medical benefits, your mortgage payment drops by 30% and gas goes back to costing 98c/gallon. News flash: THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
 
First of all, he's not a public "servant". Technically, he's our leader. Also, he has only been in office for a month. NOBODY can make a huge change within a month, so there is absolutely no reason to complain about anything he has or hasn't done yet. To do so just shows a ridiculous, unwarranted impatience that is completely unjustified.

THE GOVERNMENT WORKS FOR US!!! THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT US AND ANSWER TO US!!!!

hmmm did they alter the definition of change? because all i'm seeing is more of the same party politics, stimulus money for new office furniture?? to help nancy pelosi's husbands billion dollar tuna industry??? Howabout spending this money to buy up bad mortages? or better yet, let some people fail so we can end this recession, and not make it last even longer!
 
You willingly joined the Armed ******, which means that you willingly agreed to any form of service that the President would ask you to do. In your own words, you "obligated" yourself. President Bush didn't make you join the Armed ******. When you signed up for service, you were telling the United States and all of it's citizens that you agreed to do whatever it takes in order to protect our country.

Now, you're saying that you didn't agree with the war? No, wrong answer. Once you penned your name on the dotted line, you agreed to anything...including going to Iraq.
Dude, you're confusing two different things.

Soldiers and soldier-citizens are allowed to disagree with the war. They have limits on what freedoms they can exercise while enlisted/commissioned, but they are allowed to think freely.

And once they get out, they have more than earned the right to think what they wish, now as a civilian. "Wrong answer"? Dude, don_equis is probably one of the most entitled people to his views and opinion, and it's based on less ignorance than people like myself or yourself (I assume you did not serve in Iraq either).

You can disagree with him all you want, but quit ignoring the fact that he has only been President for A MONTH.
And yet he's setting a direction that many of us feel solves nothing, possibly worsens it.

There is still an economist of the duo that won a Nobel Prize that stated that government interference after the crash of '29, especially in '32 by even the Republican President, only gone worse by the Democrat, made things much worse. Now we have a crash that starts in '07, and the Republican President tries to change reverse it a year later in '08, and it's only going to get worse. Heck, the crash that started in late '99 too years to see full effect by '03, the oil crisis crash of '73 going worse through '76.

The guy has only been doing his job for a few weeks and you (and others) are already acting as if he is the worst thing that has ever happened to this country.
I don't think he said that. I think he's said he's tired of many politicians, including Obama like W. before him. Quit trying to defend Obama to the point that you act like no one can disagree with him. I don't like Obama's explanations on many things like I didn't like many of W.'s either.

Give him a chance, stop this preemptive whining and give him a reasonable amount of time to make things happen before you condemn him.
Hey, I'm the first one to admit that Obama hasn't been around long enough to see what his work will accomplish. At the same time, he does sputter a lot of the same bullshit.

The "tax cuts for the rich" **** has gotta go. That's utter bullshit that gets old. If you want to complain about the wealthy and banks, that's one thing. They created a lot of this mess, I totally agree. But the people making $50K+/year that he's planning to raise taxes on (not the $250K+/year he promised), just like Clinton's $20K+/year (not the $100K+/year he said he would), is an insult to my intelligence. That along with calling "tax credits" as "tax cuts." No, they are entitlements aka handouts.

You just seem like one of those people that isn't going to be happy with Obama until he makes your individual life a better one.
And yet that's what one could say about W., Clinton, Bush Sr., Reagan, even Carter!

change ? what change are you talking about ?:scream: :lame:
Word.
 
Of course approval ratings are falling, he has failed in fixing our economy :rolleyes:. Let's give him some time, and let's not overhype him either.
 
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