Obama give CIA free reign to **** at will

[zdenka]

"Home Grown Terrorists" is a vague term and they can label anyone a terrorist, a person of interest, or an enemy combatant.

Better to **** a suspect Terrorist than let him **** millions of innocence later. Shoot first ask questions later. The End justifies the means, as long as intention is for the good.

 

[Will E Worm]

Better to **** a suspect Terrorist than let him **** millions of innocence later. Shoot first ask questions later. The End justifies the means, as long as intention is for the good.

"The end justifies the means." Are you a Freemason? :tongue:

We have, or are supposed to have, a due-process in this country. A process that limits the federal government from having too much power and turning on its' own citizenry.

They are elected to serve us and our needs. Not the other way around.

It is "We the People." Not, "We the federal government."

 

[zdenka]

A process that limits the federal government from having too much power and turning on its' own citizenry.

We live in changing times. We should really protest about how the terrorists and other baddies have gotten more powerful. Therefore it makes sense the good guys should get more power too. At the end of the day I wouldn't worry to much about it. well unless I was a terrorist or something lol

 

[Will E Worm]

We live in changing times. We should really protest about how the terrorists and other baddies have gotten more powerful. Therefore it makes sense the good guys should get more power too. At the end of the day I wouldn't worry to much about it. well unless I was a terrorist or something lol

The federal government does not need any more power. They need less.
They will ***** it and take it further.

You should worry about it.

 

[zdenka]

You should worry about it.

I'm only worried about terrorists, baddies and having a car accident.

 

[Ulysses31]

Ron Paul attacks 'unconstitutional' Obama after Awlaki death

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...bama-Anwar-al-Awlaki-death.html#ixzz1ZeN5ZVhr

Presidential hopeful Ron Paul has called into question the ******* of radical Al Qaeda cleric Anwar al-Awlaki.

Writing in the New York Daily News, the outspoken Republican contender said the President Obama was acting outside 'the Constitution or the rule of law' when he ordered Friday's drone strike on the American born terrorist leader.

According to the constitution, American-born Awlaki should have been charged with a crime and arrested for a trial.

Writing in the Daily News, Paul said: 'Awlaki was a U.S. citizen. Under our Constitution, American citizens, even those living abroad, must be charged with a crime before being sentenced.

'As President, I would have arrested Awlaki, brought him to the U.S., tried him and pushed for the stiffest punishment allowed by law.

'Treason has historically been judged to be the worst of crimes, deserving of the harshest sentencing.

'But what I would not do as President is what Obama has done and continues to do in spectacular fashion: circumvent the rule of law.'

Paul cites the open admission on February 3 last year of national intelligence director Dennis Blair when he said: 'Being a U.S. citizen will not spare an American from getting assassinated by military or intelligence operatives.'

This open admission, Paul contends, 'sets a new dangerous precedent in our history.'

UNCONSTITUTIONAL? RON PAUL'S LETTER IN FULL

As President, I would not hesitate to use decisive ***** to repel any imminent threat. National defense is a primary function of Congress and the commander-in-chief, and, as chief executive, I would carry out my duties as outlined in the Constitution and in accordance with the rule of law.

President Obama apparently believes he is not bound by the Constitution or the rule of law. When it was reported that Anwar al-Awlaki was ****** by U.S. drone strikes in Yemen last week, certainly no one felt remorse for his fate. Awlaki was a detestable person we believe helped recruit and inspire others to **** Americans through terrorist acts.

We have to take the fight against terrorism very seriously. In 2001, I supported the authority to capture and **** the thugs responsible for 9/11. In our efforts we must, however, work hard to preserve and respect our great American constitutional principles.

Awlaki was a U.S. citizen. Under our Constitution, American citizens, even those living abroad, must be charged with a crime before being sentenced. As President, I would have arrested Awlaki, brought him to the U.S., tried him and pushed for the stiffest punishment allowed by law. Treason has historically been judged to be the worst of crimes, deserving of the harshest sentencing. But what I would not do as President is what Obama has done and continues to do in spectacular fashion: circumvent the rule of law.

On Feb. 3, 2010, Dennis Blair, then the country's director of national intelligence, admitted before the House Intelligence Committee that "Being a U.S. citizen will not spare an American from getting assassinated by military or intelligence operatives." This open admission by an Obama administration official, not even attempting to keep it classified or top secret, sets a dangerous new precedent in our history.

The precedent set by the ******* of Awlaki establishes the frightening legal premise that any suspected enemy of the United States - even if they are a citizen - can be taken out on the President's say-so alone. Part of the very concept of citizenship is the protection of due process and the rule of law. The President wants to spread American values around the world but continues to do great damage to them here at home, appointing himself judge, jury and executioner by presidential decree.

When **** leader and Holocaust mastermind Adolf Eichmann was convicted and executed by the Israeli government in 1962, it was after he was captured, extradited and tried. Respect for the rule of law never has been for the protection of monsters like Eichmann or Awlaki, who should meet their just fate - but for the protection of the vast majority of innocent citizens who should never become subject to mere governmental whim.

Courtesy New York Daily News

 

[Boothbabe]

Better to **** a suspect Terrorist than let him **** millions of innocence later. Shoot first ask questions later. The End justifies the means, as long as intention is for the good.

Do you even realise how extremely dangerous that kind of thinking is? Following you rationale you could justify dropping a few nukes on the middle east because that's where all the big bad terrorists live who you're so afraid of. And who decides what's for the good? You? Or war mongeror who has bought a few politicians and has millions invested in the weapons industry? You truly are a very, very dangerous person.

 

[zdenka]

Following you rationale you could justify dropping a few nukes on the middle east because that's where all the big bad terrorists live who you're so afraid of.

That would be a last resort, but maybe when the time is right, I really can't predict the future.

And who decides what's for the good?

We humans generally have something called a moral compass. If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.

You truly are a very, very dangerous person.

I take that as a compliment. Oh and The End Justifies the Means, as long as the intentions are good.

 

[Emeyesix]

I think Z makes a very prescient remark about how the rules of engagement have changed dramatically. While I enjoy my personal liberties immensely and will fight to keep them from being infringed, there are quite a few misguided, brainwashed, and armed humans that if and when "disappeared" I would not miss one minute of *****.

 

[Boothbabe]

That would be a last resort, but maybe when the time is right, I really can't predict the future.

I really hope you're just trolling because if you aren't you are effectively advocating genocide wich puts you in the same league as Hitler and Stalin. Do you really want to be that kind of person?

We humans generally have something called a moral compass. If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.

The ones in power who make the desicions have a moral compass that has been screwed up by money and power. They have fallen long ago.

 

[Ulysses31]

We humans generally have something called a moral compass. If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.

I take that as a compliment. Oh and The End Justifies the Means, as long as the intentions are good.

You're relying on the politicians having the correct moral and ethical standards as you do, all it takes is a few corrupt ones or those with other 'interests' at heart for innocent people to die and I can guarantee if the *** of a member of the Saudi ruling ****** was identified as a dangerous terrorist he would never be targetted because or the political repercussions, likewise I don't see anyone identified as a Catholic Real IRA terrorist being targetted either for the same reason, only muslims in the middle east be be targetted whilst more dangerous threats are allowed to ge free because of and unwanted political/economic repercussions, this biased approach will only further anger muslims across the world and turn more people to ****** against the US. In terms of the end justifying the means, Hitler the legally elected leader of Germany thought that Germany and the world would be better off without the Jews and the disabled etc, the means was the Holocaust :2 cents:

 

[Rey C.]

Home grown Terrorists should be worried. They will now protest lol

Hmm. I guess that means none of his fellow Congress Critters will want to sit beside Jeff "Taliban" Sessions come Monday.

 

[zdenka]

I agree. I **** terrorists, communists and other baddies for infringing on my liberties. And will not rest until every one of them is destroyed (or re-educated) War between Good vs Evil for thousand of years continues... it's what I/we live for

While I enjoy my personal liberties immensely and will fight to keep them from being infringed, there are quite a few misguided, brainwashed, and armed humans that if and when "disappeared" I would not miss one minute of *****.

Yes, that means their moral compass is skewed and ultimately be kicked out by people power. They will be replaced by worthier decision makers.

The ones in power who make the desicions have a moral compass that has been screwed up by money and power.

 

[eye_am_the_stig]

One of the reasons we have such a nice comfy lifestyle hear in the US is because we have institutions like the CIA that are tasked with going out and doing all the ugly, fucked up jobs that people dont want to hear about. I personally like having a nice cushy condo, cable TV and a GF that dresses like a slut. So if protecting that means the CIA has to put a bullet in somebodys head or a drone missile up somebodys ass I'm ok with that, in fact I'll ***** like a baby thank you.

 

[meesterperfect]

Two peas in a pod.

 

[zdenka]

I'm more worried about starving **** in Africa

 

[emceeemcee]

zdenka obviously belongs to that segment of Anerican society comprised entirely of 6 year olds who are willing to turn a blind eye to any atrocity or ***** of power as long is it alleviates their fear of the AQ bogeyman

 

[zdenka]

Actually I don't live in America which is explains why my views are superior Atrocity is when Hitler ****** millions in Europe, it's when Stalin and Mao ****** millions of innocents in the name of Oppression. It's when Islam stones innocent people because they don't believe in Koran. That is Atrocity. Maybe you should visit the rest of the World to learn the meaning of Atrocity. It's written in History

 

[LukeEl]

I think the CIA had the free reign to **** before Obama came into the picture, they just do what they feel like. Like if you own a video store and they rent a VHS tape, they sure as hell won't rewind it, no matter how many be kind rewind stickers you put on it. And if you charge them a fee for it, your dead. I mean look at Blockbuster.

 

[zdenka]

I heard The Bourne Identity is a popular one

Like if you own a video store and they rent a VHS tape, they sure as hell won't rewind it, no matter how many be kind rewind stickers you put on it. And if you charge them a fee for it, your dead. I mean look at Blockbuster.