Obama Admin ELECT already talking EO

Oh, here's this thread. I would have figured that the false and wholly unfounded personal critiques would enter the fray. I will not entertain such blatant attempts to sway the main talking point, which IS -
The disposition of Mr.President Elect.
For why is he so eager to display his newly acquired powers, some 9 weeks premature ? That's All !

Reverse the roles - If a republican - American African were to become President Elect, and, in turn, had displayed the same vigor as Obama, with the pronouncement of the use of EOs in the first 24 hours of his or her (yes I said her :tongue: ya never know) term, all fuggin hail would break loose.
I am registered as independent of democrat / republican parties, for the record. :)

Some people, or sheeple. That's why they voted for him.

Maybe, we will start seeing stickers like we did about Bush?

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Well I voted for him but that in it self does not qualify me as "sheeple"

Now some of the **** yard activities I engaged in while working the " broke back mountain sheep & dude ranch " ..... well yeah then I was a bit sheepleish, but hey I was young and needed the money.
 
Well I voted for him but that in it self does not qualify me as "sheeple"

Now some of the **** yard activities I engaged in while working the " broke back mountain sheep & dude ranch " ..... well yeah then I was a bit sheepleish, but hey I was young and needed the money.

Sheep herder. :rolleyes:

I don't say sheeple to be mean. But, if you believed the lies from Obama you are one.
 
What lies ? He hasn't done anything good or bad yet that I am aware of, he is unproven but seemed to me like the best choice given the alternative.
Yeah I voted for Obama, half the country did and I don't think we are ALL sheeple, but a lot of people do not use critical thinking skills and do believe the party line ( any party ) without fact checking for themselves.
So specifically, what lies do you speak of and can you validate your claim?
 
What lies ? He hasn't done anything good or bad yet that I am aware of, he is unproven but seemed to me like the best choice given the alternative.
Yeah I voted for Obama, half the country did and I don't think we are ALL sheeple, but a lot of people do not use critical thinking skills and do believe the party line ( any party ) without fact checking for themselves.
So specifically, what lies do you speak of and can you validate your claim?

I've already commented on other threads about Obama.
Look at his Socialist background and the people he is around, Ayres for one.
Also, look for the video clip where he "slips" and says, "My Muslim faith". And, on and on...
 
Cap'tain! Cap'tain!

What?

Reefs ahead?

Okay. I'm turning right.

Cap'tain! Cap'tain!

What!!

There is shores on our right.

Okay. Im going ...

Cap'tain!

What the hell?

It's my turn to be at the helm. Get the fuck out of here before the boat sink!

Huh? It's already been 8 years?

Yes. You can finally have all the vacation you wanted.

Cool. I'm out. Farewell crew!

Okay. I have to head left seriously to avoid the shores. Hmm. A tad more left to avoid the reefs.

Holy ****! We are heading to the far left! DANGER! DANGER! We will all die!



To be continued in 4 years...

Stay tuned!
 
I've already commented on other threads about Obama.
Look at his Socialist background and the people he is around, Ayres for one.
Also, look for the video clip where he "slips" and says, "My Muslim faith". And, on and on...

Will E Worm you seem to be intelligent and a free thinker so I was asking you to back up your claim.

Ayres himself said he really didn't know Obama other than community organization work but that he did wish he knew Obama much better, so I think that terrorist connection is way over done, but perhaps I am mistaken I do not claim to be a political pundit and I do admit when I am wrong.


Socialist Background ? Not sure what this means but I will tell you that I would be thrilled to have the national health care plan of Canada.


Slips and says Muslim Faith, I never saw the clip, is it genuine and are you 100 % sure ? Did he perhaps intend to say " My ******'s Muslim faith " ? Not making any excuses for Obama here but without hearing the entire speech the quote is taken out of context and can be twisted to suit the person trying to make the speaker look like a liar.

No B.S. here I would truly be grateful if you could prove any one of the supposed lies that helped influence my decision to vote for Obama over McCain.

My decision was based on a philisophical belief that Obama would try to help the middle class and the under class and McCain would continue to try to help the wealthy and corporations in a hopes of more trickle down economics.

I do appreciate the fact that we can have a political discussion with out all the ****, fear and bigotry so often involved.

Best regards, and seriously keeping an open mind

doublevaglvr
 
I've already commented on other threads about Obama.
Look at his Socialist background and the people he is around, Ayres for one.
Also, look for the video clip where he "slips" and says, "My Muslim faith". And, on and on...
not sure how exactly they'd classify as lies?

the right investigated all those issues (tenuous as some of them may have been) and hammed them up to the nth degree, to try and bring him down.

TBH, I think there's a much better chance him of not being religious at all, rather than some closet Muslim, lol.
 
Slips and says Muslim Faith, I never saw the clip, is it genuine and are you 100 % sure ? Did he perhaps intend to say " My ******'s Muslim faith " ? Not making any excuses for Obama here but without hearing the entire speech the quote is taken out of context and can be twisted to suit the person trying to make the speaker look like a liar.

doublevaglvr

You will have to look it up on youtube. He was on a Sunday morning show when he said it.

But, as all politicians he will be shown to be a liar like they all have been in the past.

TBH, I think there's a much better chance him of not being religious at all, rather than some closet Muslim, lol.

He did "slip" and say, "My Muslim faith".
Obama's true religion is Freemasonry. It is a religion, regardless of what they say.

Obama is a 32 degree Freemason of the Prince Hall lodge. (Possibly 33 degree)
Of course they are going to deny it and so will he.
All Freemasons are sworn to secrecy, or they will be ******.
Look up the oaths of Freemasonry.

Youtube
Bill Cooper, Mystery Babylon, NWO and Freemasonry

Bill Cooper, Mystery Babylon, Rose Cross

New World Order, Freemasons 1/6

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Willy I know your mind is already made up regarding Obama, but I am pretty tired of you attacking him without a reliable source backing you up. Just say "You can find it on Youtube" isn't good enough. All politicians stretch the truth in order to win votes and none of them have ever deliver 100% of their campaign promises so your accusing him of being a liar is very harsh and irrational. Even if he delivers everything he said it will not make you happy since you disagree with his policies from the get go. Anyways all you ever do in an Obama thread is to bash our President elect and he hasn't even sworn in yet. Just chill.
 
I Think Barrack Obama is going to make a good president and will be right down the middle on most issues and he will support the troops and the veterans as he did today.

Happy veterans Day to all as I am a veteran myself (USAF Retired) and I voted for Obama because I think he has all Americans and others around the world in mind to make a good change . He is going to be a President that surrounds him self and his staff with intelligent people.

Thank You
 
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Bush used his executive power to limit federal spending on embryonic stem cell research, a position championed by opponents of abortion rights who argue that destroying embryos is akin to ******* a fetus. Obama has supported the research in an effort to find cures for diseases such as Alzheimer's. Many moderate Republicans also support the research, giving it the stamp of bipartisanship.


I gotta step in here. Having worked in research for many years (no longer- I gotta eat), I will say that the stem cells used haven't come from embryos in many years. Stem cells have been gathered using sinus swabs for quite some time now. No babies are being ******, nor are they being cloned for parts (at least in any accredited US institution). Hell, MY nose was swabbed and the cells cured paralysis in rats. I hope that human studies will be implemented within the next year.

I have a buddy who got cancer, caught in the early stages and Stem Cells (HIS OWN) did a LOT toward helping him beat the cancer.

The answer is not EMBRYO stem cells, it is mature ADULT stem cells. There is a very real possibility and hope in that.
 
I have a buddy who got cancer, caught in the early stages and Stem Cells (HIS OWN) did a LOT toward helping him beat the cancer.

The answer is not EMBRYO stem cells, it is mature ADULT stem cells. There is a very real possibility and hope in that.

That's exactly where the research is being done. Stem cells were originally discovered in embryos and umbilical cords, but that isn't even the most prevalent grouping of production. Cancer research is certainly working with stem cells, but the biggest work I see is in neurological fields- though the differing researchers do share info and even technicians from time to time.
 
Slips and says Muslim Faith, I never saw the clip, is it genuine and are you 100 % sure ?

I saw it. And Will E's contention that there was something insidious about it is just more readily debunked crap from the myopic, delusional fringe. Here's a snopes link (clips included) that addresses this total non-issue in detail...

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Obama is a 32 degree Freemason of the Prince Hall lodge. (Possibly 33 degree)
Of course they are going to deny it and so will he.
All Freemasons are sworn to secrecy, or they will be ******.
Look up the oaths of Freemasonry.

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My question is why REVERSE the domestic drilling? There is no reason other than to drop MORE OF our energy needs on the middle east, thereby causing more oil price gouging, the VERY THING he railed against when he was promising to "get the money from those evil oil companies".

Tell me again why this is a good idea.

Just remember, when asked about the price of gas back when the 4 dollar barrier was crossed, our president elect just answered "I would have preferred a more gradual adjustment". I read that as he as indifferent to one of the biggest problems that normal working people, whom he claims to represent, were facing. To him it is an ADJUSTMENT, Meaning that is where it should be ANYWAY.

Well it is either a problem for the American oil companies to make a profit, which doesn't fall inline with the line of thinking expressed in his own words, or he is in the bag for someone in the oil business, and stands to get kickbacks, Or the normal American work a 40 hour week is dirt on his shoes now that he is the ruler of the kingdom.

Either way you cut this, it isn't good for the average person.

So much for my optimism for this guy.
 
He better not fuck with homeland security thinking he knows better and opens up to get hit again, I really wish him well when it comes in having all these agencies doing everything he can to keep this country safe. Getting hit again like 9/11 not a cool thing not something to joke about or to desire just to prove a point.

What concerns me the most is the economics issues, since he did not really have a plan but to continue bail outs as in the present Bush administration, so where is the change in that?

I am very pro a very well and smartly regulated stem cell research.

Not with him in banning oil drilling or shutting down coal as sources of energy, we need all the sources of energy available to us, not go in an extereme way green, I need a break with a familily and job to keep and him making things go higher cost so he can bankrupt them is not going to help me (middle class),yeah most of you don't have a ****** to take care of so domestic drilling not a ?fuck about it", but I do.
 
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Yeah....God forbid we might encourage stem-cell research. This Obama guy is clearly a lunatic. You right-wingers had better be very worried.
 
to hysterical right wing propaganda. Those other two are in permanent orbit around planet irrational.

Show me, Where have I once linked to a disreputable source. Or better, what is the bodie criteria for reputable sources ? Truth is, all of my sources posted are legit, main stream news links, with a few exceptions. I don't ever link with goon blogs, never.
I think that it's my opinions that you don't like and that's ok. This is a discussion board. We're encouraged to exchange ideas and opinions, but don't please coin me in conjunction with such derogatory descriptors. ^

and King - please refresh your rebuts with something other than the false and unfounded
accusation of racism. unless or until you can validate what you claim, please refrain.

I don't really care either way about stem cell, it's just that it's not really proper decorum to do so as a matter of EO with 9 weeks remaining as president elect. The chanting for EO from ANY president elect kinda would cause the little itty bitty hairs on the back of my neck to tingle. YMMV

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