North Korea launches test rocket in ocean

[thebear247]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30035197

its real scary Japan is protesting and united nations are gonna meet later today to decide to do about this china sides with north korea . this isnt looking good looks like another war in the futrue

 

[Namreg]

BS... this is just posturing by lil' kimmy for the benefit of his own people, to make himself look stronger. if he ever did launch a nuclear weapon against anyone, his neighbours would wipe north korea off the face of the earth, which he must surely know.

 

[BlueBalls]

Just like most other nations they have this childish need to show how strong they are. This is just an attempt to show its "enemies" the force they have... blah, blah, blah. Like Namreg says they would never actually use it against anyone, why? Because they wouldnt have the capacity to fight off the 10 or so armies who would come to the aid of what ever country they attacked, South Korea for example.

Just like in the playground when two guys used to fight, no punches were actually thrown, just a lot of nose to nose and just as many "what!", "what!" if you get what I'm saying. All talk and no action because no one wants to get hit by someone stronger or as strong as they are. You pick on the weak kid (Iraq) then you look like a tough guy, and there is no chance of you looking a fool. Unless the weak kid knows Karate and fights back, You Might look foolish then.

 

[Lucky7000]

Again? Big whoop.

 

[bazza599]

its funny next time they will claim to have invented the internet an freeones . they havent got the capabilites to put shit into space like what they clamed to have done japan an usa would have clocked it via there survielence shit nice try kim jong

 

[tiger1977]

This is ridiculous. That country needs to be leveled and made into a suburb of China. That or just get rid of the goddamn communist regime in power.

 

[gunslingingbird]

BS... this is just posturing by lil' kimmy for the benefit of his own people, to make himself look stronger. if he ever did launch a nuclear weapon against anyone, his neighbours would wipe north korea off the face of the earth, which he must surely know.

I'm not so sure that it's entirely Bitch Jong-Il's doing. I've read a few things that show that the military is doing more and more things against his will, and he's only passing it off because he's afraid that if he doesn't side with them they will attempt a coup d'état.

The whole point of nuclear weapon buildups isn't to actually use them, it's to show the world that you have a bigger dick than they do. The problem is that, if you try to actually prove that you do, there ain't gonna be anyone left to verify your claim.

 

[girk1]

BS... this is just posturing by lil' kimmy for the benefit of his own people, to make himself look stronger. if he ever did launch a nuclear weapon against anyone, his neighbours would wipe north korea off the face of the earth, which he must surely know.

The missile testing also has practical uses. The North Koreans have sold Hundreds of millions/(Billions) of dollars of weapons/missile technology to other countries (especially Iran)for desperately needed money.

These tests are a sales pitch to prospective nations for future weapons sales for money the regime needs badly to survive.

 

[laxe]

North korea is just trolling to get a response from the world.
I seriously doubt they care if they have nuclear bombs or not.

 

[bustybbwlover]

i love how north korea has so quickly become the epitome of evil to the westernized world, we have such short attention spans

 

[roselexa777]

north korea does nothing without the ok from china this is all being done under chinas protection. with bush gone these countries can do what they want obama will do nothing just like clinton. everyone new what bush would do when asked if iran were to attack isreal woluld the usa be there to help he smiled and said you bet and no one doubted him. i hope the world has the same respect for obama

 

[Gordar]

north korea does nothing without the ok from china this is all being done under chinas protection. with bush gone these countries can do what they want obama will do nothing just like clinton. everyone new what bush would do when asked if iran were to attack isreal woluld the usa be there to help he smiled and said you bet and no one doubted him. i hope the world has the same respect for obama

I hope you remember that NK tested their 'nuclear weapon' when Bush was president and Bush didn't do much either... Eventually it was China who solved the problem.

 

[girk1]

north korea does nothing without the ok from china this is all being done under chinas protection. with bush gone these countries can do what they want obama will do nothing just like clinton. everyone new what bush would do when asked if iran were to attack isreal woluld the usa be there to help he smiled and said you bet and no one doubted him. i hope the world has the same respect for obama

With Bush Gone these countries can do what they want?:1orglaugh Absurd.

In 2006 ALONE(Under George Bush's watch) N. Korea launched two different rounds of missile testing & about seven(7) short & long range missiles & one which could possibly reach Alaska.

N Korea also detonated ,with unprecedented Advanced warning in 2006 (under Bush's watch), a nearly 1 Kiloton NUCLEAR device of some sort.

I know there is a strong dislike/mistrust of Obama out there ,but be realistic. This is a very complex situation which Bush obviously had no simple answer for either.

 

[Ol-Skool-Perv]

Of course this is meaningless as a "threat". The good guys would turn N. Korea into glass before their 2 or 3 nukes hit a U.S. target. Kim's just doing his job so that we have an excuse to continue the arms race and enjoy its economic rewards. Hell, Israel has a few hundred nukes all developed with our permission while kept "secret" from the world and unmentionable in the media. Why the double standard always? Cause we're the good guys, right?

 

[PlasmaTwa2]

So what? :dunno:

If they were going to attackSouth Korea, they would have done it already.

 

[Member2019]

Everyone, get your facts straight ...

N Korea also detonated ,with unprecedented Advanced warning in 2006 (under Bush's watch), a nearly 1 Kiloton NUCLEAR device of some sort.

It wasn't even close to 1 Kiloton.

In fact, people questioned if it was nuclear at all because it was sub-0.3 kiloton. A Russian thermobaric (fuel-air) bomb can almost do that, and it doesn't take that much TNT to simulate.

In a nutshell, it fizzled. It was not a sustained reaction. It clearly shows they don't know what they are doing. It was likely rushed out of political design, and not technically ready. The question continues to be if they did a proper test, would it not fizzle?

I know there is a strong dislike/mistrust of Obama out there ,but be realistic. This is a very complex situation which Bush obviously had no simple answer for either.

The problem is that Carter, during the Clinton administration, started the bilateral non-sense. That wet the North Korean's appetite in the hope continued "appeasement" from the US and US alone, by breaking terms and blaming the US.

The Bush administration said "no" after 9/11. They said 6-party talks only, to stop the 1-sided bullshit. North Korea is still hoping for a return to the bilateral non-sense, and keeps violating every term they can. Why? Because under the 6-party approach, they can't turn around and blame the US, because Japan and South Korea are right there, saying "no they didn't."

The Obama administration utterly agrees with the Bush policy on North Korea. In fact, Obama has repeatedly stated that we need to go after North Korea and Afghanistan (not Iraq).

South Korea also got tired of its "engagement" bilateral approach too. They've utterly cut off just about everything, forcing the 6-party approach. They are tired of the "screaming child" across the border, that does everything to break terms and blame the other party. With a 6-party talk system, that's difficult.

Especially with China saying right back to them, "the other 4 guys aren't buying it, shut up."

So what? :dunno:
If they were going to attackSouth Korea, they would have done it already.

But they can threaten to shell Seoul with 5,000 artillery shells in a matter of minutes, pretty much guaranteeing a genocide-level of death. That threat on its own is pretty much why we care.

That and the promise of China, to the US, to keep the Korean pennisula nuclear free, as we won't place them in Japan (not that Japan would allow them), South Korea (more debatable) or, most of all, Taiwain (which is their greatest concern ).

If you can't think that deep enough, you shouldn't be part of the argument. This has far reaching issues beyond just the simplistic analysis of the basic facts.

 

[Member2019]

Iran and North Korea + Journalism = an insult to my intelligence ...

I've posted a related entry ...

Iran and North Korea + Journalism = an insult to my intelligence ...
http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?t=290577

 

[Bone]

The missile testing also has practical uses. The North Koreans have sold Hundreds of millions/(Billions) of dollars of weapons/missile technology to other countries (especially Iran)for desperately needed money.

These tests are a sales pitch to prospective nations for future weapons sales for money the regime needs badly to survive.

that's my belief too. the fact that Iran sent observers for the launch tells us that.

since the test failed, they will need to a follow-up sometime. we won't do anything this time. what can we do next time? :dunno:

 

[Gordar]

Re: Everyone, get your facts straight ...

Taiwain (which is their greatest concern ).

Yes, if anyone placed weapons in Taiwan, which China still considers to be Chinese territory, that would certainly offend them and might even provoke a war (a cold war at least...).

 

[Skyraider22]

Well that is nice to know they are up to this again I wonder what is next on their list