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As long as bring back the old classic North Stars Norris I'm mostly on board with this. Let me sober up first and conjure the consequences of the wacky 8 team 7 team shit.
I know Columbus is killing themselves :suicide: but that's what they want, then so be it.
It's Quebec City that wants a team and they're right by Montreal. The Quebec Nordiques will be back and I'm betting it'll be the Coyotes that go there. The other Canadian city is somewhere by Toronto as they want a second team there due to the money it'll generate. That one isn't happening for a couple more seasons at least.
Columbus wanted to move east because they think they'll be able to generate more money due to the fact that their fans can watch games at a reasonable time plus less travel in general. Also, there are more big name teams in the east so if you play them more often you draw more people to the arena. For example, no one cares in Columbus if the Calgary Flames come to town but if the Rangers or Penguins come then you've got more tickets sold. The monkey wrench in this plan is if Quebec does get a team then they'll be in the east and I'm pretty sure Columbus will be given the boot back to the west as they don't have the same kind of pull in the league as Detroit does.
As for Winnipeg, I'd prefer it stay with the other western Canadian teams but going to the central division is good for them time zone wise.
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People say "enjoy it while you can".
Well, I am, my friends. I am.
I saw them during the Oilers game and they are nice to look at. Better than what we have.
yeah NJ will be seeing less playoff action......i have been hearing that for over 10 years now! maybe it's time everyone stops burying the devils because year in & year out they consistently make the playoffs. the "experts" EVERY year say "this is the year the devils finish at or near the bottom of the conference".... since 1988 they have missed the playoffs 3 TIMES 3 times in 25 years!!!!??? maybe stop counting them out!
Why would they see less playoff action?
I hope this realignment is accepted and implemented next year.
For anybody who hasn't seen it.
Pacific
Anaheim
Calgary
Edmonton
Los Angeles
Phoenix
San Jose
Vancouver
Mid West
Chicago
Colorado
Dallas
Minnesota
Nashville
St. Louis
Winnipeg
Central
Boston
Buffalo
Detroit
Florida
Montreal
Ottawa
Tampa Bay
Toronto
Atlantic
Carolina
Columbus
New Jersey
New York Islanders
New York Rangers
Philadelphia
Pittsburgh
Washington
I love the Central division. Lots of good teams to go watch at the Joe.
I wouldn't count NJ out. I don't know what those "experts" are thinking.
It's unfair to have less teams on one conference/division than on another, but if they can manage to add two more new teams, then it will balance out.
Moving Detroit would kill one of the leagues oldest rivalries, against the Blackhawks (since 1926), but I understand most of Detroit's team and fanbase would like the move, since they are in the eastern time zone, and they don't (and shouldn't) care too much about splitting up away from Chicago. I get that, and I agree.
Of course, Columbus deserves the move even more than Detroit, so that's a correct move.
However, the league also proposes that during the regular season, each team would play the other 29 in a home-and-home series, which has not been the case in recent years. But if they do that, then it ruins their idea of cutting down on travel distances.
Obviously, it's a no-brainer to move Winnipeg because they're currently in the Southeast division due to their former status as the Atlanta Thrashers. So it makes sense for them to move to the midwest division.
Playoff proposal:
"Under the proposed system, the top three teams in each of the four divisions would qualify for the postseason. The final four spots would go to the two teams in each conference with the next-best records. So, in theory, five teams from one division and just three from the other division in each respective conference could make the postseason."
It's not a perfect change, but with the number of teams and the awkward location of some of them, there is no perfect answer.
those "experts" are everyone who has written the upcoming season predictions for the hockey news for the past 12 or so years, barry melrose for sure counts them out EVERY year.
PlasmaTwa2
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You didn't even look at the realignment, did you? Check out the teams in the proposed Atlantic Division. You have New York, Pittsburgh, Washington and Philadelphia all in the same division as the Devils with three guaranteed playoff spots and two wild cards. When you factor in the teams that the Central has (Boston, Detroit, Ottawa, Tampa, Toronto maybe if they get a goaltender), I highly doubt that the Atlantic will constantly get both wild card spots and that means one of those teams which constantly makes the playoffs (Devils/Flyers/Capitals; New York and Pittsburgh aren't going anywhere for years) is suddenly going to see a lot less time in the playoffs.
Hurp a derp.
I'd say he will be until 75. Conservatively speaking.
The Players Association is proposing the idea of not moving both, Detroit and Columbus, but only one or the other. That way, the 2 conferences would have the same number of teams.
If it had to be just one or the other, it would have to be Columbus. I know Detroit has wanted to move for a long time but Columbus is further east and, as a younger team, they're trying to build fanbase, including the young fans who I would assume currently couldn't stay up late enough to watch because Central teams' games tend to start an hour later.
Maybe they'll do it this way, and then, when they get around to filling in the two empty spaces with new teams (such as in Kansas City and Seattle, or maybe Portland or Salt Lake City), then Detroit can move east.
If it had to be just one or the other, it would have to be Columbus. I know Detroit has wanted to move for a long time but Columbus is further east and, as a younger team, they're trying to build fanbase, including the young fans who I would assume currently couldn't stay up late enough to watch because Central teams' games tend to start an hour later.
Maybe they'll do it this way, and then, when they get around to filling in the two empty spaces with new teams (such as in Kansas City and Seattle, or maybe Portland or Salt Lake City), then Detroit can move east.
I agree with this. In many ways, it's a great hockey city. Pretty dedicated fans, and all that. However, they can't attract talent, management, or coaching that seems to work. It was a good try. Time to move them.
Zackley. I also think Florida should fold. The league will do better with the talent spread over 28 teams and if all 28 can profit consistently, then look at expansion again.
Contraction would never happen as that means less jobs for the NHLPA. I agree that it would probably make things better as you'd have less guys that realistically should be in the AHL rather than the NHL. As for Florida, it's not going anywhere due to the crazy arena lease they have where it's like set for the next 30 years.
I get what you're saying, but how can that make sense? We don't care how much money you're losing, Mr.Owner! You're going to pay 23 of us millions of dollars whether you like it or not!
Because for contraction to happen you would need for their to be no one willing to buy the team. This is sort of what's happening with Phoenix but you put in the relocation factor into things and all of a sudden even the Phoenix Coyotes look interesting to someone.
This is a good point, and there are lots of places looking to host a team, should the opportunity come available. I think of Quebec City, Hamilton, and Seattle as the examples that spring immediately to mind. There are surely more. And who is to say that's wrong? Maybe we just need to keep this same number of teams, but take the time to get everyone positioned in the market where they'll be profitable. it is possible to have this many teams, and all of them turning a profit.
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I'd love Quebec City to have a team again.
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