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PlasmaTwa2

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Just go ahead and cancel the season right now. Why keep pushing it back every week?
 
Bettman only answers to 30 individuals and they all think he is doing a bang up job. Last time the lockout happened I started paying more attention to basketball and baseball. I'd be surprised if the lockout actually gets resolved and there is a season to be had. Otherwise they can have the NHL entry draft like they did in 2005 which would be interesting. Figure the Maple Leafs would have the best odds of the #1 overall pick. Nathan MacKinnon or Seth Jones would be potential building blocks.
 
So we can have our vague, foolish hope to cling too. I don't know if its a good thing or a bad thing.

AHL or KHL. Also leagues like USHL or whatever you can find. NCAA hockey has actually been pretty good lately too with a number of very promising future NHLers playing there, but it's a shame we can't get NHL stick. Shame we don't get KHL games televised here though. :(

At the end of the day I side with the players on this one; they've been filling arenas and their salaries are a fraction of NBA players.

I'd venture to guess these billionaire owners probably make a healthier profit off their NHL teams than they do their NBA teams. Wild tickets, for example, have went up exponentially since I was a season ticket holder, and yet Wolves tickets in the nosebleeds are actually cheaper than those at the X for a game of pro stick.
 
AHL or KHL. Also leagues like USHL or whatever you can find. NCAA hockey has actually been pretty good lately too with a number of very promising future NHLers playing there, but it's a shame we can't get NHL stick. Shame we don't get KHL games televised here though. :(

At the end of the day I side with the players on this one; they've been filling arenas and their salaries are a fraction of NBA players.

I'd venture to guess these billionaire owners probably make a healthier profit off their NHL teams than they do their NBA teams. Wild tickets, for example, have went up exponentially since I was a season ticket holder, and yet Wolves tickets in the nosebleeds are actually cheaper than those at the X for a game of pro stick.
Right after I say that I see ESPN2 is televising live KHL action today. I'm wondering how many of these games they will pump this year if the stoppage is indefinite. Biggest problem with these games though is they will be live 'round noon in the afternoon or so.


Oh, I see Ovechkin is playing for Dynamo and Chara is also playing in this game, so those are two of the best on the planet already.
 
This is lol. Apparently this dude has some gripes with ESPN, Melrose and Levy:

ESPN’s experiment in showing KHL hockey live across its various media platforms opened with two of the KHL’s best teams in the West, but the game experience was less than ideal for many different reasons as Dynamo Moscow beat HC Lev Praha 1-0.
Barry Melrose and Steve Levy provided the commentary, though if you wanted straight play-by-play with occasional sidebars, you were out of luck. Much of the commentary was focused on explaining the minutiae of the NHL lockout, Melrose posturing about how it’s unfair for some locked-out players to seek alternate plans overseas (while commentating a game featuring some locked-out players) because he would not have been awarded the same opportunity, the differences between KHL and NHL styles of play, the fact that there are two players on Lev’s roster both named Juraj Mikus, the ads on the ice and the fact that Zdeno Chara and Alexander Ovechkin were playing.
The atmosphere in the booth felt like how it is when two old friends reunite at a sports bar and joyfully watch a game on the ubiquitous TVs mounted to the wall, but without having to worry about being the primary commentators. There were even some references to the Soviet Union because it is 1991, not 2012, apparently.
Plus, since the KHL doesn’t take TV timeouts for commercials, ESPN 2 viewers missed some of the game whenever the network broke for ads, although only a few minutes every time.

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http://www.rantsports.com/nhl/2012/10/09/zdeno-chara-lev-lose-to-alexander-ovechkin-dynamo-1-0/

And I had no idea KHL doesn't have TV timeouts. That's pretty neat.
 

PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
Last lockout I remember some of the networks in Canada opted to show WHL/OHL/QMJHL games (except CBC, who had a stupid "Movie Night in Canada" thing with Ron Maclean instead). I wish one of the networks would show some KHL. That sounds like a great idea.

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Last lockout I remember some of the networks in Canada opted to show WHL/OHL/QMJHL games (except CBC, who had a stupid "Movie Night in Canada" thing with Ron Maclean instead). I wish one of the networks would show some KHL. That sounds like a great idea.
 
AHL or KHL. Also leagues like USHL or whatever you can find. NCAA hockey has actually been pretty good lately too with a number of very promising future NHLers playing there, but it's a shame we can't get NHL stick. Shame we don't get KHL games televised here though. :(

At the end of the day I side with the players on this one; they've been filling arenas and their salaries are a fraction of NBA players.

I'd venture to guess these billionaire owners probably make a healthier profit off their NHL teams than they do their NBA teams. Wild tickets, for example, have went up exponentially since I was a season ticket holder, and yet Wolves tickets in the nosebleeds are actually cheaper than those at the X for a game of pro stick.

That's fine if you choose to side with the players. No doubt that there are reasons to do so. However, you should know that the NHL collectively lost over a hundred million dollars last season and NHL players are getting paid more than ever and are signing long-term guaranteed contracts. One of the major problems with the new deal is that the NHLPA is demanding that they have guaranteed salary increase over the years of the new deal. That doesn't really make sense when the league is losing that kind of money. Both sides should just let the market dictate salaries and approach it with a laissez-faire philosophy.

P.S. I would love to see televised AHL/WHL/OHL/QMJHL games this year. Jordan Eberle, Taylor Hall, and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins will all be playing with the Oklahoma City Barons this year, and I would love to be able to watch them on television.
 
That's fine if you choose to side with the players. No doubt that there are reasons to do so. However, you should know that the NHL collectively lost over a hundred million dollars last season and NHL players are getting paid more than ever and are signing long-term guaranteed contracts. One of the major problems with the new deal is that the NHLPA is demanding that they have guaranteed salary increase over the years of the new deal. That doesn't really make sense when the league is losing that kind of money. Both sides should just let the market dictate salaries and approach it with a laissez-faire philosophy.

P.S. I would love to see televised AHL/WHL/OHL/QMJHL games this year. Jordan Eberle, Taylor Hall, and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins will all be playing with the Oklahoma City Barons this year, and I would love to be able to watch them on television.

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Pretty sure as I watched the Dynamo game today during the 2nd period Melrose pointed out the league (owners, players) made over a billion dollars this year. It also brought in $1 million per home game to their local economies.

I do agree some of the contracts the players were signing were very bizarre; not necessarily the worst contracts, per se, but just really odd. 10...12 year contracts for players who would no doubt be washed up 6...8 years, if not injured in a couple years.
 
I'll watch AHL, but I don't think I'll get to watch any of the games on tv except for the Chicago Wolves games. The thing is, the Wolves aren't even associated with Chicago, but with the Vancouver Canucks. It just doesn't feel right. It's the Rockford Icehogs who are affiliated with the Chicago Blackhawks.
Also, last I read, the Wolves are the only AHL team who has all of their games televised. Maybe it can be different this season due to the NHL fiasco, but will I hold my breath?
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AHL or KHL. Also leagues like USHL or whatever you can find. NCAA hockey has actually been pretty good lately too with a number of very promising future NHLers playing there, but it's a shame we can't get NHL stick. Shame we don't get KHL games televised here though. :(

At the end of the day I side with the players on this one; they've been filling arenas and their salaries are a fraction of NBA players.

I'd venture to guess these billionaire owners probably make a healthier profit off their NHL teams than they do their NBA teams. Wild tickets, for example, have went up exponentially since I was a season ticket holder, and yet Wolves tickets in the nosebleeds are actually cheaper than those at the X for a game of pro stick.

I actually caught the end of a KHL game on ESPN2 earlier tonight, Chara, Hossa and Ovie were all playing. NCAA is a decent watch, but I find it hard to care unless the Black Bears are playing.
 
Nope, we get TSN and TSN2, and I think they would rather show eight curling games in a row than Russian hockey.
That's a bit weird. Must have something to do with TSN monopoly of sorts on TV rights up there. I would guess if you could toss enough $$$ around though you could get the ESPN Networks? Not saying you should, as ESPN generally shits all over hockey and has really sucked since NHL2Nite left, but getting these KHL games is at least a little refreshing.

I actually caught the end of a KHL game on ESPN2 earlier tonight, Chara, Hossa and Ovie were all playing. NCAA is a decent watch, but I find it hard to care unless the Black Bears are playing.

That was Marian's little brother, not Marian. Still there were a bunch of NHLers on both teams - both former and current/future- and I thought they would use the Olympic ice sheet and they weren't they were using the NHL size rink. I thought the action was good though. I'd be willing to bet a KHL-NHL all star challenge would yield some interesting/challenging games for sure.
 
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Pretty sure as I watched the Dynamo game today during the 2nd period Melrose pointed out the league (owners, players) made over a billion dollars this year. It also brought in $1 million per home game to their local economies.

I do agree some of the contracts the players were signing were very bizarre; not necessarily the worst contracts, per se, but just really odd. 10...12 year contracts for players who would no doubt be washed up 6...8 years, if not injured in a couple years.

Either Barry Melrose is full of hot air (which is quite possible) or he meant something else. The NHL has not made a billion dollars in profits in its entire existence. That's ludicrous. As for sources, there are many articles all over the internet and in Forbes that document the NHL's finances. There are many teams making lots of money, but most teams are losing money. Revenue sharing can make up for that, but obviously every team should be profiting.

Maybe Melrose was talking solely about revenue, not profits, because the NHL pulled in billions in revenue, but that's just revenue, that doesn't account for expenses.
 
That was Marian's little brother, not Marian. Still there were a bunch of NHLers on both teams - both former and current/future- and I thought they would use the Olympic ice sheet and they weren't they were using the NHL size rink. I thought the action was good though. I'd be willing to bet a KHL-NHL all star challenge would yield some interesting/challenging games for sure.

Marcel, I take it? I was having a hard time paying attention - I was playing NHL13 Be A Pro on my other TV, and I kept hearing them say Hossa but I never really saw him. NHL/KHL skills comp would be pretty sweet, too. That way we can finally settle the hardest shot title with a neutral gun.
 

PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
Last lockout I remember some of the networks in Canada opted to show WHL/OHL/QMJHL games (except CBC, who had a stupid "Movie Night in Canada" thing with Ron Maclean instead). I wish one of the networks would show some KHL. That sounds like a great idea.

Well just saw an ad for Tuesday Night Movies on TSN. Fucking re-tar-ded.
 
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