PlasmaTwa2
The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
Brodeur kept the Devils in the game. Fuck that was a good third period for him. Glad the Flyers won though. :thumbsup:
NHL '09/'10 Season Thread
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Brodeur kept the Devils in the game. Fuck that was a good third period for him. Glad the Flyers won though. :thumbsup:
why do people talk and treat crosby like he is gods gift to hockey am i missing something . yeah he is a young stud and real good but my god its crosby crosby crosby he is the lebron of the nhl .
If washingtone keeps playing like they did last night it will be a long rough road for anyone in the east .
I love my redwings always will be a red wing fan but i dont think they will get past phx this year
If washingtone keeps playing like they did last night it will be a long rough road for anyone in the east .
I love my redwings always will be a red wing fan but i dont think they will get past phx this year
It does get annoying, but I think it's all well deserved. He's head and shoulders above the competition. He made Jason Spezza look like an infant the other day. Spezza's no slouch and had decent defensive position on Crosby. He's the perfect player. He could lead the league in goals, assists or both. He carries his team on his shoulders when they need him and he's fucking clutch. Ask Bloodshot Scott!! :1orglaugh
I know lots of people hate "Crysby" or "Cindy" but he's hands down the best player in the league. There is no denying that..
When 5 on 5 (3rd period) ,,,It seemed Brodeur was the only Devil out there.....
But when is Brodeur ever not there? ,,,, The best goalie ever,,, but Go Flyers!
Hopefully Richards won't party too much tonight,,, there is still a long way to go in this series...:o
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PlasmaTwa2
The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
I still think Ovechkin is the better player myself, but that's just me. People tend to get in really heated debates about this topic for some reason. :dunno:
:dunno: Ahh ,, if done in a civilized way , those arguments can be fun,,,, but too many just become a bitch fests,,,, Remember the Gretzky/ Lemieux debates????
PlasmaTwa2
The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
throw a new name into that mix: Stamkos
Don't look now, but your homerism is showing.
PlasmaTwa2
The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
throw a new name into that mix: Stamkos
That brings up a question that I was going to ask awhile ago: You think the Lightning are going to try and move Lecavilier? Now that Stamkos has become the scorer, you think they might move him? They could probably get a good return for him - a goalie, maybe?
I believe Ovechkin is the ultimate all around player. He's fast, insane skills, will hit you in the mouth etc he does it all. However, I got two questions for you....How many gold medals and Stanley cups has Ovechkin won? How many gold medals and Stanley cups has Crosby won?
That's the difference breaker that everyone brings up with that heated debate...and its a very valid point. Crosby seems to be more valuable to his teams.
PlasmaTwa2
The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
I find that point flawed to a degree. Crosby didn't win the Cup and the Gold by himself; it was a team. When Canada actually faced Russia, neither Crosby nor Ovechkin did anything. Because the team played better, I don't see how that makes Crosby better. :dunno:
I don't think team awards should be used to tip the weight in anybodies favour, but when stats are so close, how else can you decide? Not that we have to decide. Both are ridiculous. :bowdown:
I just prefer Crosby's game. I also think he'll have the better career stats wise and cup wise.
Craig Anderson with 50 saves so far tonight. American goalies representin' this playoff season. :shocked:
personally i hope not. there are 2 big problems if they try. first of all is his no trade clause. secondly, and probably the bigger issue, is his contract. but then again, because of his contract we may have to try to move him.
Great game. Boyle just won it for the Avs.
PlasmaTwa2
The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
Anderson has been the story of these playoffs so far. He is the reason San Jose might not make it past the Avalanche. Goddamn is he stepping up.
Not to get back into the Crosby/Ovechkin debate, but I would rather have Crosby on my team if I had to choose between the two. Not just because I'm a Pens fan, but because I feel Sid is an overall better leader, and better player. Just look what he's already accomplished that Ovi hasn't... 1 Stanley Cup, with 2 trips to the Finals, and a Gold Medal in the Olympics, with the winning goal. Ovechkin may get better stats with more goals, and a better +/-, but he's got some catching up to do to get on Crosbys level IMO.
Back to the stats with better goals, Crosby had 2 goals in the final game this year to skip over Ovi to share the Rocket Richard Trophy, where Ovi had zero goals in his final game.
Just look at head to head in the playoffs last year, who came out on top when it mattered? The postseason is where the good players become great and the great players become unreal. Crosby has way more playoff points than Ovi, and if you want to argue that with "The Pens have just had a better team than the Caps the past few years" did you ever realize maybe Crosby has been the reason for that? You create your own opportunities, and Crosby has capitalized on that, where as Ovi has not.
The Caps won the Presidents Trophy, congratulations...now try to win the Stanley Cup, the Trophy that actually matters. Until Ovi actually wins the cup, he will be like the Dan Marino of the NHL which is quite the dubious honor.
I don't have anything against Ovechkin, don't get me wrong, he is one hell of a player and he definitely plays with an edge that others don't have, but to say he is better than Crosby...c'mon man! He's proven with personal and team success that he is the better player and leader, which is the true mark of a champion. Sleeves out.
Back to the stats with better goals, Crosby had 2 goals in the final game this year to skip over Ovi to share the Rocket Richard Trophy, where Ovi had zero goals in his final game.
Just look at head to head in the playoffs last year, who came out on top when it mattered? The postseason is where the good players become great and the great players become unreal. Crosby has way more playoff points than Ovi, and if you want to argue that with "The Pens have just had a better team than the Caps the past few years" did you ever realize maybe Crosby has been the reason for that? You create your own opportunities, and Crosby has capitalized on that, where as Ovi has not.
The Caps won the Presidents Trophy, congratulations...now try to win the Stanley Cup, the Trophy that actually matters. Until Ovi actually wins the cup, he will be like the Dan Marino of the NHL which is quite the dubious honor.
I don't have anything against Ovechkin, don't get me wrong, he is one hell of a player and he definitely plays with an edge that others don't have, but to say he is better than Crosby...c'mon man! He's proven with personal and team success that he is the better player and leader, which is the true mark of a champion. Sleeves out.
I agree completely. I think Crosby is hands down the best hockey player in the world. I was one of the many people who believed Ovechkin was better because of his previously superior goal-scoring skills, which I look at as far more important than playmaking skills, but my opinion has changed in regard to the Crosby/Ovechkin debate for several reasons.
At first I believed, like many others, that Ovechkin was the superior defensive player, mainly due to his many bone-jarring hits, but after watching both players play numerous times over many years, it has become obvious to me that Crosby is a vastly superior defensive player. In the offensive end, Crosby is one of the most effective forecheckers in the league, and his stick lift is NHL 10-esque. When he's in the defensive end, which obviously isn't very often, he takes away scoring chances as well as any other forward in the game, including Ryan Kesler and Pavel Datsyuk. If he were sent out there to play that role, he would be a perennial candidate for the Frank J. Selke Award (awarded to the best defensive forward every year). However, he is far more valuable when sent on the ice to score (obviously).
Additionally, Ovechkin's reckless abandon is something he needs to work on in order to improve as a player, specifically defensively. A big hit can help the team, yes, but when you play with the type of reckless abandon that Ovechkin does, you're going to take bad penalties, which he does, and possibly get suspended, which he was this season. What Ovechkin should try to do instead is cut off passing angles and anticipate where the puck is going to be, which is a much more intelligent and effective defensive strategy than trying to line a guy up and cream him.
Ovechkin has a flashy style and is a major showboat. Crosby has been labelled as Crysby by many haters, but he hasn't whined about a single thing since his rookie season. He has gone about his business with exceptional class and professionalism. Even when Steve Downie tried to break is leg, he didn't complain about it one bit. The only times he showed any kind of overt celebration were when he won the Stanley Cup and when he scored the gold-medal-winning goal in the Olympics, and I think we can allow a person to act like an ecstatic maniac in those kinds of situations.
As I mentioned earlier, I believe goal-scoring to be much more valuable than playmaking. Some of you may have heard about this, it's been mentioned on hockey broadcasts a few times, but Crosby has played with a flat stick blade his entire career up until this season because it allowed him to use his backhand pass much more effectively, which is part of what made him such a great playmaker. This season, however, Crosby decided to start curving his stick blade so as to score more goals. As a result, a Maurice Richard Trophy. In his first season using a curved stick, he eclipsed the world in goal-scoring, that's pretty impressive.
That said, Ovechkin does have the superior raw skills, seeing as how he finished with the same amount of points and just one fewer goal than Crosby in nine fewer games played. I just think that Crosby is a better all-around player and a much more intelligent hockey player. I would also say that he's a better leader and has achieved a lot more than Ovechkin in his career so far.
But that is just my opinion. Anyone who feels like Ovechkin is the best player is well within the realm of reasonability to believe so.
P.S. I do believe that Stamkos is a sick player, but I would have to say that the race for the best player in the world is still a two-horse one. If hockey fans were asked who they thought the best player in the world is, I think pretty close to 100% of them would say either Crosby or Ovechkin. However, I think at this point, the race for the third best player in the world is done and over with, it's Stamkos.