NHL '09/'10 Season Thread

[rodfarva]

Best team in NHL history. Like the Yankees and Lakers, it comes with the territory.

The Montreal Canadiens are the greatest team in NHL history. This is fact. 24 Stanley Cups, more than twice any other team except the Toronto Maple Leafs, who have 13, and more than four times more than any other team than Toronto and the Detroit Red Wings, who have 11, certainly nowhere near enough to consider them better than the Canadiens. They are all original six, so the Wings haven't won more per year or anything like that.

In fact, the Canadiens have the best cups per season ratio of any team in NHL history as well, at one every 3.83 years, second being the Edmonton Oilers at one every 6 years.

Arguably, the Oilers could be considered the second best team in NHL history (laugh if you want to, but to do so would be to ignore the evidence because of the laughable state that the Oilers are currently in) because of the second best cup per season ratio, and being that they are the only non-original six team to be in the top five in Cup victories (being tied with the Boston Bruins for fourth with five Cups). Obviously, the Red Wings have managed to spread their success over the ages of a few dynasties, while the Oilers won all five of their Cups in just seven seasons.

At the very least, the Oilers dynasty that won those five Cups is obviously one of the greatest single dynasties in NHL history (and in my opinion, is clearly the best considering they did it in an NHL with many more teams and had to dethrone another of the other great dynasties in NHL history, the New York Islanders, who had won four straight Cups leading up to the Oilers first).

The Glory Days were nice, I need to hold on to them.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

The Montreal Canadiens are the greatest team in NHL history. This is fact. 24 Stanley Cups, more than twice any other team except the Toronto Maple Leafs, who have 13, and more than four times more than any other team than Toronto and the Detroit Red Wings, who have 11, certainly nowhere near enough to consider them better than the Canadiens. They are all original six, so the Wings haven't won more per year or anything like that.

In fact, the Canadiens have the best cups per season ratio of any team in NHL history as well, at one every 3.83 years, second being the Edmonton Oilers at one every 6 years.

Arguably, the Oilers could be considered the second best team in NHL history (laugh if you want to, but to do so would be to ignore the evidence because of the laughable state that the Oilers are currently in) because of the second best cup per season ratio, and being that they are the only non-original six team to be in the top five in Cup victories (being tied with the Boston Bruins for fourth with five Cups). Obviously, the Red Wings have managed to spread their success over the ages of a few dynasties, while the Oilers won all five of their Cups in just seven seasons.

At the very least, the Oilers dynasty that won those five Cups is obviously one of the greatest single dynasties in NHL history (and in my opinion, is clearly the best considering they did it in an NHL with many more teams and had to dethrone another of the other great dynasties in NHL history, the New York Islanders, who had won four straight Cups leading up to the Oilers first).

The Glory Days were nice, I need to hold on to them.

I guess in the modern era the Wings are the best. Mike Bossy and the Isles and the Gretzky dynasty are the best dynasties. WTF did the Oilers ever get rid of him anyways? I think Edmonton was too small for him. He needed the bigger stage. Too bad after his greatest game at the Church they didn't go on to win for the Kings in '93.

 

[Jagger69]

Detroit didn't win this game. Phoenix lost it for themselves. One player on the Coyotes seemed to remember that they had a game to play, and by the third Bryz gave up, too. I expect a performance like that out of some shit team like the Oilers or Islanders, not the team that placed fourth in the West.

Yeah it was a disappointing effort for sure. The Coyotes looked happy just to be in a game 7 while the Wings came to win.

My new favorite team is the San Jose Sharks. Anybody but Detroit.

 

[STDiva]

Part of me wants to see San Jose break their bad playoff luck...but they play Detroit. So fuck'em.

 

[PlasmaTwa2]

Arguably, the Oilers could be considered the second best team in NHL history (laugh if you want to, but to do so would be to ignore the evidence because of the laughable state that the Oilers are currently in) because of the second best cup per season ratio, and being that they are the only non-original six team to be in the top five in Cup victories (being tied with the Boston Bruins for fourth with five Cups). Obviously, the Red Wings have managed to spread their success over the ages of a few dynasties, while the Oilers won all five of their Cups in just seven seasons.

At the very least, the Oilers dynasty that won those five Cups is obviously one of the greatest single dynasties in NHL history (and in my opinion, is clearly the best considering they did it in an NHL with many more teams and had to dethrone another of the other great dynasties in NHL history, the New York Islanders, who had won four straight Cups leading up to the Oilers first).

The Glory Days were nice, I need to hold on to them.

If you go by individual teams, then I think the 87-88 Oilers are definitely one of the contenders for best team in NHL history (along with, in my opinion, the 76-77 Canadiens and the Broad Street Bullies-era Flyers), but I think the Canadiens are far and away the best team in NHL history. The Cups just don't lie.

Part of me wants to see San Jose break their bad playoff luck...but they play Detroit. So fuck'em.

It might be better they lose now. That way we don't have to hear about the Sharks not going far every year, and the Wings won't have to lose to the Canucks.

 

[GibbsGrad2002]

So what do you guys thing capitals or canadiens it should be a good game personally I would like to see the canadiens win because I not a fan of ovechkin

 

[rodfarva]

I guess in the modern era the Wings are the best. Mike Bossy and the Isles and the Gretzky dynasty are the best dynasties. WTF did the Oilers ever get rid of him anyways? I think Edmonton was too small for him. He needed the bigger stage. Too bad after his greatest game at the Church they didn't go on to win for the Kings in '93.

Blame Peter Pocklington, the devil on earth:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Gretzky#.22The_Trade.22

Reading that chokes me up all over again.

 

[rodfarva]

So what do you guys thing capitals or canadiens it should be a good game personally I would like to see the canadiens win because I not a fan of ovechkin

I'm definitely rooting for the Canadiens and I think they'll win. Cammalleri has been the best forward in the series besides Backstrom and Halak is a man possessed. Couple that with the fact that the Capitals don't have one single player with an ounce of clutch in his entire body and I see the Caps getting upset.

 

[STDiva]

The NHLPA is renaming their MVP trophy, (The Lester B. Pearson Award) to the Ted Lindsay Award.

TORONTO -- The most valuable player award voted on by NHL players is getting a makeover to honor Ted Lindsay, who fought for their rights more than 50 years ago.

The NHL Players' Association will rename the Lester B. Pearson Award for Detroit Red Wings great Ted Lindsay. An official announcement will be made at the Hockey Hall of Fame on Thursday morning.

Lindsay was one of the driving forces behind the creation of the NHLPA in the 1950s. The Hall of Famer won the Stanley Cup four times and led the NHL in scoring during the 1949-50 season.

The NHLPA's MVP award was first handed out during the 1970-71 season and named for Pearson, the former Canadian prime minister. It was one of the few major awards not named for someone associated with the league.

 

[PlasmaTwa2]

Wow. A simple name change and already the trophy means less.

 

[STDiva]

Wow. A simple name change and already the trophy means less.

How so?

 

[PlasmaTwa2]

How so?

Well the name itself carries weight and tradition. Imagine if they changed the name of the Rocket Richard Trophy. The trophy still means the same thing, but if they change the name there is a certain meaning that goes with it. With a major award like the Pearson award, which has been handed out to some of the best players to ever put on the skates, it feels cheap to me if they go and rename it after so many years.

 

[Jagger69]

I guess in the modern era the Wings are the best. Mike Bossy and the Isles and the Gretzky dynasty are the best dynasties. WTF did the Oilers ever get rid of him anyways? I think Edmonton was too small for him. He needed the bigger stage. Too bad after his greatest game at the Church they didn't go on to win for the Kings in '93.

The most dominant hockey team I ever saw (and I absolutely hate to admit it cuz I despise 'em) was the Philadelphia Flyers (aka "Broad Street Bullies") of the 1970s. Their ability to intimidate their finesse-oriented opponents remains unmatched to this day. They literally beat the shit out of you but they could also skate, score and defend with the best of them. Bernie Parent was an absolute beast in goal. Once you got down to them, they never let you back up.

I'll never forget their domination of the vaunted Central Red Army team in a exhibition game back in 1976. I can still remember seeing the scoreboard at the old Spectrum at the end of the game: FLYERS 4 RED ARMY 1. It was still cold war days and what a fucking statement it made! Sent shivers down my spine.

 

[STDiva]

Well the name itself carries weight and tradition. Imagine if they changed the name of the Rocket Richard Trophy. The trophy still means the same thing, but if they change the name there is a certain meaning that goes with it. With a major award like the Pearson award, which has been handed out to some of the best players to ever put on the skates, it feels cheap to me if they go and rename it after so many years.

I feel ya. I still think this name change is due though. I don't think an award given in a North American league should be named after a Prime Minister. There would probably be an outrage if a hockey award was named after a president. Plus I like that it is named after someone who had something to do with the sport. If they changed it from a hockey player to another hockey player, I'd probably disagree with it, but this is cool in my books.

Now we just need that Wayne Gretzky award for most assists in a season.

 

[Vlad The Impaler]

I feel ya. I still think this name change is due though. I don't think an award given in a North American league should be named after a Prime Minister. There would probably be an outrage if a hockey award was named after a president. Plus I like that it is named after someone who had something to do with the sport. If they changed it from a hockey player to another hockey player, I'd probably disagree with it, but this is cool in my books.

Now we just need that Wayne Gretzky award for most assists in a season.

change the Lady Bing to the Wayne Gretzky award.

 

[LukeEl]

So Mark Savard is getting the medical clearance for the next game the Bruins play, it's ridiculous how many fans around here want to play Pittsburgh the next round for the whole Matt Cook hit.

 

[icerfan]

Now we just need that Wayne Gretzky award for most assists in a season.

One of my favorite Gretzky stats ... he led the NHL in assists SIXTEEN times. Name another player in ANY sport that owned a major statistical category that many years. :bowdown:

 

[PlasmaTwa2]

I feel ya. I still think this name change is due though. I don't think an award given in a North American league should be named after a Prime Minister. There would probably be an outrage if a hockey award was named after a president. Plus I like that it is named after someone who had something to do with the sport. If they changed it from a hockey player to another hockey player, I'd probably disagree with it, but this is cool in my books.

Now we just need that Wayne Gretzky award for most assists in a season.

change the Lady Bing to the Wayne Gretzky award.

No no. Change the Stanley Cup to the Wayne Gretzky Trophy For Post-Season Excellence (Sponsored by Pepsi).

:yesyes::yesyes::yesyes::yesyes::yesyes:

 

[TunnelOfLove]

No no. Change the Stanley Cup to the Wayne Gretzky Trophy For Post-Season Excellence (Sponsored by Pepsi).

:yesyes::yesyes::yesyes::yesyes::yesyes:

My prediction: They will change the Stanly Cup to the Sidney Crosby Cup because of Crosby's high advertise value...

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

Oh dear lord, will the Caps ever win a cup with this nucleus if they do not beat these lowly Habs?

The most dominant hockey team I ever saw (and I absolutely hate to admit it cuz I despise 'em) was the Philadelphia Flyers (aka "Broad Street Bullies") of the 1970s. Their ability to intimidate their finesse-oriented opponents remains unmatched to this day. They literally beat the shit out of you but they could also skate, score and defend with the best of them. Bernie Parent was an absolute beast in goal. Once you got down to them, they never let you back up.

I'll never forget their domination of the vaunted Central Red Army team in a exhibition game back in 1976. I can still remember seeing the scoreboard at the old Spectrum at the end of the game: FLYERS 4 RED ARMY 1. It was still cold war days and what a fucking statement it made! Sent shivers down my spine.

And you have to admit it is THE best sports team nickname in all of sports history.