Naomi Wolf on Why Porn Turns Men Of The Real Thing

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/trends/n_9437/

Anyone see the New York Magazine hit piece on porn. Naomi Woolf is making some broad, essentialist notions about male sexuality that I doubt she would accept if a man were to write about female sexuality.

The onslaught of porn is responsible for deadening male libido in relation to real women, and leading men to see fewer and fewer women as “porn-worthy.” Far from having to fend off porn-crazed young men, young women are worrying that as mere flesh and blood, they can scarcely get, let alone hold, their attention.

:rolleyes:

But does all this sexual imagery in the air mean that sex has been liberated—or is it the case that the relationship between the multi-billion-dollar porn industry, compulsiveness, and sexual appetite has become like the relationship between agribusiness, processed foods, supersize portions, and obesity? If your appetite is stimulated and fed by poor-quality material, it takes more junk to fill you up. People are not closer because of porn but further apart; people are not more turned on in their daily lives but less so.

:rolleyes:

Watch them sell issues by having porn on the cover. lol
 
really? it just makes me want to have sex more...whenever i go a week or more without sex i start getting tired of masturbating, and that's usually only once a day at most...as far as porn worthy, this woman clearly hasn't seen much of the porn that's out there, if it exists there's porn for it ;)
 

L3ggy

Special Operations FOX-HOUND
What a great surname.
 
Wait until technology can give us interactive holograms.
 
In my case she's 100% right.
I'll still pay to fuck a whore but as for meeting a " normal " woman , pfft no thanks.
 

Supafly

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Well, the article finishes with a sentence that wraps it up: 'Sex has no mysteries.'

All the glamour and the freakiness of sexual stuff on the internet can't hold a candle to a real woman and a real man (Or other combinations) getting it on in real life.

There is no real danger to that!

And Naomi Wolf gave a great interview on freedom and the road to fascism in America, and I think she has a point there.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/apr/24/usa.comment
 
If women didn't play so damn hard to get and hold "the keys" (like Dr. Drew calls it), maybe it wouldn't be such an issue. Women always playin' hard to get, even when you've been committed for years.

My ex tried to play that on certain occasions and when I threatened to pull one off when she did, it pissed her off. lol. Women can be such head cases. :facepalm:
 
I think there's some truth to what she wrote. It's really no secret that men can use porn as a substitute for real relationships with women. But, at the same time, our society has given a lot of young women the impression that their pussies are made of gold, so it also doesn't surprise me that men wouldn't want to put up with that attitude.
 

LukeEl

I am a failure to the Korean side of my family
There needs to be more marionette porn, but hey to each their own.
 
Meh....women have it easy. It's us men who have to worry about living up to the dongs and loads seen in Freaks of Cocks.:mad::rolleyes::rolleyes::1orglaugh
 

PirateKing

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Sounds like sour grapes to me. I get the impression that a certain bland article writer couldn't keep the interest of her ex.

I say it's good for the female population. It ups the competition and encourages sexual liberation.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Wait until technology can give us interactive holograms.

"We've got an app for that."

I guess it's not the right way to be. But I'd at least listen to most anything that Camille Paglia had to say. But I can't get myself to even begin to take flakey Naomi Wolf seriously enough to read ANYTHING that she says. IMO, she's just the Rev. Al/Glen Beck of the radical feminist movement. I see Camile as an honest (though controversial) intellectual, who doesn't base her thoughts and opinions on prejudice.
 
Porn only raises the inticement of sex. What turns men off to sex is when it becomes a job....when you assign a load of bullshit emotions or use it as a carrot
Sounds like sour grapes to me. I get the impression that a certain bland article writer couldn't keep the interest of her ex.

Boom! Nailed it
 
Meh....women have it easy. It's us men who have to worry about living up to the dongs and loads seen in Freaks of Cocks.:mad::rolleyes::rolleyes::1orglaugh

Which is why DJ Mudbone must DIE!!!:mad:

Sounds like sour grapes to me. I get the impression that a certain bland article writer couldn't keep the interest of her ex.

I say it's good for the female population. It ups the competition and encourages sexual liberation.

My friend, it amazes me how perceptive you can be from time to time. I don't think I could have put a better stamp on the subject than this.
 
What the fuck is she talking about? Young people are fucking more than ever and they are practically raised on internet porn.

The reason married men so often ignore their wives sexually is because, after many women shit out a kid or two, a fucking Rosie O'Donell haircut and 20 extra pounds become the uniform from there on.

I have so many married friends who are married to women who used to be drop dead gorgeous. Once they had kids, the idea of doing a half hour on the treadmill three times a week went out the window. I have friends who are just fucking miserable now...and they all swore it would happen to them.
 

SpexyAshleigh

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What the fuck is she talking about? Young people are fucking more than ever and they are practically raised on internet porn.

The reason married men so often ignore their wives sexually is because, after many women shit out a kid or two, a fucking Rosie O'Donell haircut and 20 extra pounds become the uniform from there on.

I have so many married friends who are married to women who used to be drop dead gorgeous. Once they had kids, the idea of doing a half hour on the treadmill three times a week went out the window. I have friends who are just fucking miserable now...and they all swore it would happen to them.

yeah but its a two way street. I hardly hear of these guys with fugly fat wives actually being hot themselves, or being romantic and making an effort in the relationship too. My older brother is a good example. His wife had two babies, gained weight (obviously, that happens) and then he started bitching about her being fat...when he had gained 40lbs worth of beer gut in the time they'd been married! lol ..Not that I'd know because I don't have kids (and I'm not fat, and don't have a Rosie Odonnell haircut lol) but I'd imagine after carrying around a few kids, squeezing them out and then having to deal with barfy, shitty, screaming babies all day long...having the time to have a shower/lose weight/have sex would just be damn hard to do. And once you get into the routine, its hard to stop. But getting a woman back into hot, sexual shape is also part of hubbies responsibility. After all, he didn't have to go through all of the shit she did to bring a child into their lives, and alot of women feeling good about themselves relies on how hubby treats them and makes them feel. Having regular date nites, taking your woman shopping for post-baby clothing, giving her some time to relax and have "me" time, are ALL things that can be done to help her feel sexy, which in turn, makes her want to LOOK sexy. I too, have alot of friends who've had babies, and they too complain that once they got married and pregnant, romance went out of their husbands vocabulary, and it turns them off bigtime. So I believe that if theres problems in the sexual area, its both partners responsibility to work on things to get them better.

Again, I don't have kids, nor do I plan on having children...but if I had just squeezed out a mans child, I'd NEED him to make me feel sexy because trust me, I've seen childbirth, and seen what it does to women and yes, they need all the help they can get. lol
 
What the fuck is she talking about? Young people are fucking more than ever and they are practically raised on internet porn.

The reason married men so often ignore their wives sexually is because, after many women shit out a kid or two, a fucking Rosie O'Donell haircut and 20 extra pounds become the uniform from there on.

I have so many married friends who are married to women who used to be drop dead gorgeous. Once they had kids, the idea of doing a half hour on the treadmill three times a week went out the window. I have friends who are just fucking miserable now...and they all swore it would happen to them.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh When I read the Rosie haircut part....rep was destined!

yeah but its a two way street. I hardly hear of these guys with fugly fat wives actually being hot themselves, or being romantic and making an effort in the relationship too. My older brother is a good example. His wife had two babies, gained weight (obviously, that happens) and then he started bitching about her being fat...when he had gained 40lbs worth of beer gut in the time they'd been married! lol ..Not that I'd know because I don't have kids (and I'm not fat, and don't have a Rosie Odonnell haircut lol) but I'd imagine after carrying around a few kids, squeezing them out and then having to deal with barfy, shitty, screaming babies all day long...having the time to have a shower/lose weight/have sex would just be damn hard to do. And once you get into the routine, its hard to stop. But getting a woman back into hot, sexual shape is also part of hubbies responsibility. After all, he didn't have to go through all of the shit she did to bring a child into their lives, and alot of women feeling good about themselves relies on how hubby treats them and makes them feel. Having regular date nites, taking your woman shopping for post-baby clothing, giving her some time to relax and have "me" time, are ALL things that can be done to help her feel sexy, which in turn, makes her want to LOOK sexy. I too, have alot of friends who've had babies, and they too complain that once they got married and pregnant, romance went out of their husbands vocabulary, and it turns them off bigtime. So I believe that if theres problems in the sexual area, its both partners responsibility to work on things to get them better.

Again, I don't have kids, nor do I plan on having children...but if I had just squeezed out a mans child, I'd NEED him to make me feel sexy because trust me, I've seen childbirth, and seen what it does to women and yes, they need all the help they can get. lol

Suffice it to say we've seen many men and women put their marriages and everything associated with it on cruise control after a year or 2.
 
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