My moral dilemma

I know that I'm putting a big target on myself, but I really need someone else's perspective.

As you may or may not know, I am a person of upstanding moral values. As such, I have periodically been paying women for sex since I broke up with my last girlfriend. It costs about as much as a couple fancy dinner dates, but the build up is edited out, and we just fast forward to the chase scene. No fuss, no mess, no "do these pants make me look fat?", just wham, bam, thank you ma'am. That worked fine for almost 2 years, until something happened that I did not intend.

About 3 months ago I made an appointment with a girl whose ad I'd never seen before. She had good reviews, so I decided to call her. We met and had great sex. Normally that's where I walk out the door, and we both go about our merry ways. This time, though, the girl offered me a shot of rum and Dr. Pepper, and we chit chatted for almost twice as long as I'd paid her for, and she not only didn't seem concerned about the time, she seemed to be enjoying our conversation as much as I was. When I finally left she gave me a big hug and a very passionate kiss.

I enjoyed our session so much that I called her again several times, each time being less impersonal and more like a real date. Eventually I asked her if she wanted to just hang out and go to dinner, which she accepted.

Before I go any further, I'll talk a little bit about her. She grew up in a Christian household, where she was subjected to all the repressions of Jesus freaks: Christian school, church 3 times a week, praise-the-lords and hallelujahs left and right, and she wasn't allowed to do any of the good or bad things that regular kids do. Naturally, as soon as she had a little freedom she didn't know what to do with it, and when she got a job when she was in high school she went all out. She started smoking pot, and she gradually started doing other things, eventually becoming addicted to crystal meth. After a couple years of running with derelicts and junkies she had a moment of clarity where she decided that that was not the life she wanted to live. She got help from her parents, and checked into a rehab clinic. She sobered up almost 5 years ago. She's had a hard time finding a job due to the economy and her background, but she's been able to work here and there, most recently at a liquor store.

About 6 months ago she let one of her friends drive her car, not knowing that he didn't have a license. They got pulled over, and her car got impounded because the unlicensed driver was driving under the influence. She also had her license suspended for the incident. The next day, while she was trying to straighten out what would happen with her car and everything, she called her work to let them know her status, and that she would be coming in late to work that day. Her boss flipped out and told her that if she wasn't there by the beginning of her shift she shouldn't bother coming back again. So, she got fired, with a huge impound fee looming over her. She was given 30 days to come up with $2800 dollars to get her car.

Desperate for money and without a job, she turned to her friends for help. One of them introduced her to a prostitute that he knew, and told her that that would be the fastest way to make a lot of money fast. The way she saw it, it would either be that, or selling drugs, which she wanted no part of. She wasn't exactly keen on having to fuck a bunch of strangers, but she didn't see any other choice.

Back to my dilemma, we started actually dating about a week before Thanksgiving. For about 3 weeks she continued to work because she was trying to get money for a car, and money for Christmas presents, but most days would go by without her getting any clients. I had offered to lend her some money, but she repeatedly declined, saying that she didn't want pity money, but instead wanted to make it on her own. After seeing her frustration of barely making enough money to pay for her room every night, I convinced her to take money for her car and for Christmas presents. She reluctantly took it, and promised to pay it back as soon as she could. Now that she had her car and enough money for Christmas presents she stopped posting her ad.

Let me backtrack for a minute. At the risk of sounding hypocritical, I don't want her to be a prostitute. I obviously met her through her chosen job, but I think she's much better than that, and I think she deserves much better. She set a goal of stopping in February because she doesn't like what she's doing. She took a test to start working with the welders union, and last night she found out that she passed, so she'll probably start in January. Part of the reason why I had offered her money was because I didn't want her to keep doing it.

Anyways, now that she had the money, she stopped advertising for almost 2 weeks. She tried getting a job as a hostess at a restaurant, but after she interviewed they told her they weren't hiring. Most of the time she was either with her family, or with me.

Last night when we were having dinner she informed me that she would have to start working again because she couldn't cover her bills. She was very apologetic because she knows how I feel about it, but she told me that she had to do what she had to do, and with her expenses she wouldn't be able to make it on a retail job.

My dilemma is what to do in this situation. I really care about her, more than I have cared about anyone in a long time. I know that she also cares about me, but she has financial responsibilities that she has to take care of. I neither have the money to take care of her expenses, nor do I want to assume the role of a sugar daddy. We've only been dating for less than a month, so I think it's too soon to ask her to move in together. Like she said last night, in the grand scheme of things 6 or 8 weeks isn't that long, but I still don't want her to do it. Am I being selfish? Should I just grit my teeth and bear the fact that the girl that I'm dating makes her living having sex with strangers? Should I be doing something differently? Any comments, critiques, advice, insults, etc. would be welcome.
 

alexpnz

Lord Dipstick
WOW! Tough one GSB, but I can kinda relate.

When I got out of high school, I got dumped by a longtime GF and did the usual thing teen guys do in that situation, I went out and fucked alot of chicks and then met an awesome chick in a bar one night and we hit it off immediately.
Long story short, she informed me that she was a call girl to help put her way they Rutgers due to her father losing an exectutive job and thus not being able to help her out. (found out to be true since I got to know her family)
So time came for me to kinda ask her to be my GF and then she dropped on me that I would have to "help her out" and that she couldn't date me and that I had to be sort of a "John".
I didn't give a fuck as she was the hottest chick I ever met and I just looked at it as lending her money (200 a pop, I got a discount! lolz).
Long story short, we did this for a year and a half....did everything together from her whipping my ass at NHL on Playstation to her going to business functions w/ me, we just enjoyed each others company but at a price.

I thought I could "get her" eventually but I couldn't.....in the end I just couldn't taken getting blown off for some dude willing to pay her 500-1000 and on top of that, picking her up from such "dates" and just getting a dirty feeling from just being aound her ON TOP of the jealousy, just became too much and it wasn't worth the constant depression and worrying on my part.

She went her own way and I NEVER seen her again....
So ya see GSB, If your a 1000% secure kinda dude and are REEALY intensely in love, quite franky....your a better man than me, or 90% of the male population....

Good Luck ma dood! :glugglug:
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
Marry her. You're not getting any younger. Love will find a way. And no, I'm not taking the piss. For reals.

 
its not were she's from its were she's going. She's got a plan. As Alex said, if you're mentally secure with this then bite the bullet, it could be the start of a beautiful future baby.
 

DR. B

Closed Account
You're just gonna have to accept it. Girls notice if you can handle things like that, it'll show her your character. Stick by her through thick and thin. And remember they live by this quote:

“I'm selfish, impatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am out of control and at times hard to handle. But if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best.” - Marilyn Monroe
 

vodkazvictim

Why save the world, when you can rule it?
I don't know what you should do - I just don't have the experience to make the right call. Sorry. Best of luck though.
 

Vanilla Bear

Bears For Life
Sorry GSB, I can't help you here. Just know I'm with you on that one. I wouldn't want her to do this job anymore either.

And I hope you find a way that works for both of you!

Good luck, my friend.

It's like "Pretty Woman" meets "Flashdance"

:1orglaugh

Only gay guys would notice. ;)
 
Esh. There's so much baggage here, it's hard to see around.

I wish I had a magic solution for you, but this is something that the two of you need to work out together. Don't try by yourself to "get over it." That's just never going to happen. Have open, frank conversations, but approach it honestly. Tell her that you're nuts about her, that YOU have an issue with this, not with her, this is your issue. There may be another solution that you guys eventually work out - cohabitation, expense sharing, who knows? Or, it is also conceivable that you'll simply work through all this, and you will become comfortable with her current working situation. It has happened, it could for you.

The big thing is honest, ego-free conversation.
 

Mayhem

Banned
Major respect points for sharing all of that. Seriously.

Best I have for you is the grit your teeth route. It's either that or give up on her and you don't seem to want that. Sex and morality are two different things to me and what she is doing is not immoral or unethical in my view. So....it all comes down to which path is going to drive you less crazy, and you are the only one with the answer to that.

And tell your young lady that some friends on the interweb wished her a Merry Christmas. :hatsoff:
 

Legzman

what the fuck you lookin at?
So your dating a whore? I'm sorry I didn't read the whole thing.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
No advice from me. But whatever you decide, enjoy this Christmas. Don't be thinking about this stuff at such an emotional time of the year. Take it up again after New Years. Seriously. Just enjoy and let your mind rest. The issue will still be there on Jan. 2. :hatsoff:

P.S. I've just been introduced to my girl's mom & dad as her fiance. :eek: Yet, I don't recall proposing marriage to anyone or buying anyone a ring. So I have something to think about - and I'm not having positive, happy thoughts about this. Way different issue, I understand. But I'm not going to give it another thought... not until next year.

Merry Christmas, GSB!
 

Harley Spencer

Official Checked Star Member
Indeed, escorts are real people.

I've been in a similar situation, though I was on the other end. I was the escort/porn star, and the guy I was seeing was actually my ex-bf. We had broken up about 6 months prior, and I started doing porn about a month before he and I started hanging out again. Things were rough and it caused an insane amount of problems. We dated from about June through September, but not exclusively. Well, he was exclusive to me while I was doing porn and escort work. I quit doing that in... September or October, I can't remember exactly. Then we broke up again in December and have remained friends ever since.

Relationships, exclusive or not, when in situations like this, are tricky. It really differs from person to person. Best of luck to you.
 
There's nothing selfish in wanting your girlfriend to not be a hooker. But if you don't have any better solutions for her then you have to let her make her own choices and get by herself, even if you disagree with it. You'll either be able to accept it or you won't. Its harsh, but its better to get through any unresolved feelings about it sooner rather than later.

That being said, the best thing I can say is don't ask her anything about it, stay as far away from it as you can. You'll think it will be better to know more info so you can find some sort of rationalization for it, but trust me when I say the less you know the happier you will be. All you really need to do is fight that urge to know more, try to grit it through the rough patch and get to the other side and put it behind the both of you after that. Knowing more will only drive you more insane about it, don't underestimate the human mind's willingness to lie to itself.

I realize the conflicting ideas I've presented here, but it depends on the kind of person you are.
 

squallumz

knows petras secret: she farted.
someone around here owes me 5 bucks.

and another a coke.

but yes, harley's right and its simple: escorts are real people.

do what you want to do, dude. and i sincerely hope it all works out for you. i never count out love.
 
GSB, I am speaking as a friend to a friend.


Do you love her? - Ask this question sincerely and answer yourself. It IS you who really know the answer.
Can you accept her knowing "all human have warts and all?"

If both the answer is yes, everything else is a matter of compromise.

Love conquers all. I know 1st hand. I had it and lost it. I remember the good times, because that what Love teaches you. It may not be convenient or some times socially acceptable. It is YOU who matters, no one else.

Go for it, if you are in Love.

Best wishes buddy, whatever is your choice. Only thing I will say, "we regret, not what we did, but what we didn't."

I want the best for you.
 
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