Mariah, You said it best. It's hard to claim legitimate racism when guys like Shane perpetuate the stereotype. He feeds into it for, I'm betting, not that much money. Big props for Lex for having integrity. Even in porn. I'm glad we agree on this.
My issue with interracial porn
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Mariah, You said it best. It's hard to claim legitimate racism when guys like Shane perpetuate the stereotype. He feeds into it for, I'm betting, not that much money. Big props for Lex for having integrity. Even in porn. I'm glad we agree on this.
LeyaFalcon
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Oh God. Do we really need to be arguing over this shit? Black dick looks great in Pink Pussy if you don't agree then don't watch it. Problem solved.
You are right girl!
LeyaFalcon
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Most of me is saying "eh, whatever. people like what they like" but the other part of me agrees with you on the cuckolding thing. Every once in a while I like to watch interracial porn because I think the skin color difference is nice. However, as a dude with an abnormally small penis, all of the humiliation shit that often comes with interracial porn really starts to grate on me. I'm not into having my small cock humiliated, and I'm not sure why anyone would be
Meh, my few cents is it is mostly racism that breaks down like so:
-racist family
-fear of being shamed by family who don't want them shooting with giant dick black men (like all black pornstars have giant dicks; lol)
-racist agents (who pressure them not to take interracial scenes)
-And the least common which probably numbers less than 10 are ones who've just never been called for it or it just never came up or the logisitics were off etc.
-racist themselves (simply dislike black men because they hang around other racist- these girls are easy to idenfiy because they all tend to hang around each other and often are at the same company)
I don't watch that much 'Murka porn anymore, there are a few girls who I still watch I think are hot like Angelina Valentine but I really don't watch it that much. I'm not buying the arguments against interracial pornstars being not racist because the excuses don't seem non-racial
1. Black guys are too big. There are small dick black guys in porn
2. The scenes are degrading, please I've seen way more degrading shit on used and abused type websites and the girls lined up around the corner to shoot for them
3. Its uncomfortable, fine but don't let me catch you with no dp, gaggin or anal or the other dozen sex scenes that ain't comfortable.
4. Its preference. I think that is admitting being racist. If a jew ran a business with a "preference" for hiring non-whites I'd raise my eye brow and thin what the fuck is that. if a girl is fucking only pretty white boys, with the six pack and the good looks I might buy it. But if she is fucking dudes at the bunny ranch, escorting, doing old guys, fat guys, unattractive guys, balding guys, ron jeremy and minons types. Then she is probably a racist using preference as a cover. Preference can only take you so far, can I have preference to only serve jews and koreans and arabs at my banks because those groups are on average more wealthy? Sorry whites, mexicans and blacks, I'm not racist I just have a preference for banking with asians?
5. The preference argument also becomes completely destroyed once you factor in the ton of women who shot interracial early on and then suddenly get a new agent mid career and stop shooting interracial. Am I to believe that just dozens of girls all of a sudden realize they have dis-preference for black/latino men in the middle of their careers? And how is it that many of these girls with preferences for white end up fucking black guys off screen? And how is it they have no problem shooting with black men... so long as they thought theblack man they fucked was not black hmmm hmmm missy stone and vanessa lane
6. The whole not shooting interracial porn is a completely Murkan phenomenon. I can't think of many European pornstars who don't do it... until they come to America and are indoctrinated by non-black agents (its not always white agents- but mostly is, sometimes its Asians like chinese or koreans, sometimes it jews too and I think there was even a black guy who was a performer whose name escapes me who was even telling girls this) that the black man is the devil.
The only non-racial argument I'd buy is that the black porn studios aren't coming up with enough money for some of the girls, and this may be partially true. You see because if the black porn studios wanted to they could easily bring over 26 extremely hot women like jessica ferrera, francesca felucci, angel dark, laura lion, michelle moist, delta white, chipy marlow, lily love, adeline lange, shaina, rebeca linares, jessica neight, cayenne klein erica fontes, alesha bizart, melissa morgan, tatianna la vega maya gates, lucianna karel nika noir, black angelika cory everson, holly wellin, lucy lee, alessei romei, cherry jul etc type girls. All these chick shoot interracial, all of them are hot. I've been to the Ukraine, a girl like Nika Noire or nikki benz is a dime a dozen there, other than the breast implants (which didn't improve her looks imo) you can find chicks like that on every street corner. Instead of shooting 24 hot girls I've seen alot of sites prefer to shoot a huge volume of average looking chicks with maybe 5 hot chicks out of 50. If any guy went and shot 26 stars of that hottness he'd probably have the number 1 website and dvd in interracial instantly in America and become a millionaire very quickly if the interracial genre is truly as big as people say.
Then blacks and latinos complain why some of the hot chicks don't do interracial. Tell place like black n blonds or shane d or etc to stop shooting ugly girls and spend the money to find hot ones even if they have to go to Europe or Argentina or whatever to find them. There are plenty of dudes like Joachim Kessef and Kid Jamaica and other black guy who name I don't know in porn consistently fucking hot women from all over Europe, you won't hear them complain about this or that chick don't do interracial because that is an American view that doesn't make sense to the rest of the world. Someone who fucks for money will pretty much fuck anyone for money. They may have preference, like they prefer you look a certain way, or they'll only sleep with tall man, or man with six pack, or man with cute face or long dick or wide dick or small dick. Or they might only fuck a certain type of women, like maybe a big women or a small women or a thin women, but its not racial except in America. White pornstudios go to ukraine, latin america, russia, europe, brazil (like mike in braz!). They don't complain o American women are fat we can't find hot women, no they go get foreign women. Black studio need to do the same, if they can't find enough hot american women who will fuck black guy or latino guy or asian guy, stop blaming whitey and get off your ass and do something about it. America is the most expensive country to shoot porn. You can pay cute or hot girl in alot of these places in Europe 1/10th of what your paying milfs and large women in America to shoot the same scene and the rent and production team is way cheaper.
Frankly I am surprised there are any black studios who choose to still shoot primarily in America. I'd just say American latina women are hotter on the high end than what can be found in europe in its equivalent category (Arab and indian/paki girls). If I was a black who was running a company like shane diesel, I'd just distribute or sell my product in america but shoot entirely in czech and slovakia, or hungary and romania russia and france and occassionally bring in a few british, dutch or spanish or portuguese girls, toss a few finnish and swedes and norwegian and you have a nice variety of chicks.
I don't know why people whine about it when the solution is so obvious. Which makes me wonder, do the people who run those sites or black pornstudios just not care enough, maybe they are making more money shooting sloppy, fat chicks milf and 5 in 500 hot chicks to the point that it is more profitable to shoot 5 hot girls in 10 months and charge $20 a month and then fill the rest of the month with ugly, fat, sloppy, no makeup, low budget film etc chicks than to shoot 26 hot ones.
I think interracial porn aficionados should be more angry with black film studios (although many of them aren't run by blacks but they produce films with mainly black actors in them) shooting low budget, half ass films full of racist classless content and no or shitty scripts than at racist white pornstars, racist white agents other racist whites like producers. After all, you presumably are not paying white racist pornstars or white racist websites and dvds. And white racism in porn is only widespread in the usa, so its not like you can't find white women.
I won't criticize Lex steel, he is the most solid american studio out there and probably one of the top interracial sites in the wor;d. But at a certain level blacks and latinos are not helping themselves. The barrier to entry to porn are moderately low. You need decent lighting, good cameras hot chick and decent performer. There are certainly middle class blacks and latinos on this board who could afford to set up a porn studio that was of a high quality but choose to complain. How do half these pornstars get into porn, they go in through agencies. The agenciess control alot of the flow of talent. If blacks want more hot chicks in porn shooting interracial, just open up your own agencies and encourage the girls do interracial like how some of the racist agents discourage them from doing interracial.
What I see is alot of black guys, even ones in porn, making excuses for underachieving.If I am a white guy and go all the way to Ukraine, spend thousands on flying the girl over and putting her in hotel and sign her to contract. Maybe I don't want my girl shooting for Shane Diesel or freaks of cock because he doesn't have the kind of money vivid have or isn't wiling to pay it so I tell her don't shoot for the cheapo producers because I want to make the most money. and If I am black guy and go to Romania and get hot girl and bring her back under same circumstance, I want her to make me the most money before her pussy blows out, maybe I don't want her shooting with used and abused or some rough sex site run by a white guy because I want to make the most money.
I agree with the OP that there may be racism stopping some girls from shooting with black guy or latino/asian guy etc. But are black/latino/asian guy setting up their own agencies, going to the same place and doing the same thing as white guy like travelling to europe to find hot chicks before they are even known? are they travelling accross america to find the same hot chicks and trying to get them into porn FIRST? Or are alot of black producers (not counting lex steele) trying to just hire models from white run agencies in the usa (who they already know are racist) and who they don't have the money to pay the girls like the major company like vivid and making excuse to not do their own hard work. are they trying to get the white agents to do all the hard work then get the girl for cheap price? There might be alot of racist in murka porn but these black websites don't have good excuses for running such shitty sites full of shitty content. Because if the content was that good no one would notice nor care that there are what 50-100 or so hot white pornstars who won't fuck black/asian/latino guy?
Because in the world you could find thousands probably tens of thousands of hot white pornstars who'd fuck black guys. The blame lies partially on white racist. But if all the white owned agency closed tomorrow I don't think any of those sites but lex steele could continue. If all the agencies was black owned the percent of women not shooting interracial would probably be near 0, because any racist would just leave porn or go do webcams or something. Blacks need to stop making excuses and feeling sorry for themselves at some point and start looking at what they can change because you clearly establish many white men running the agencies are racist in your opinion, so why are you expecting racist to help your sites out? But as I said, I think the general interracial porn viewer is interested in the changes I mentioned, I think many of those running the businesses are happy with their current model of shooting 5 hot chicks in 5 or 10 months and shooting 45 -100 average ones in ratio because it cost them less and they are only looking at their cost not potential revenue. interracial porn aficionados shouldn't be mad at white racist who basically ignore blacks and cock block interracial scenes, they should be more mad at the people they are paying hundreds of dollars to produce consistently crummy content and who make ZERO effort to step up the production quality or quality of the girls, black studio producers.
We can blame white racist people to the cows come home, but if they are truly racist they don't give a shit about your opinion because they are racist and will never sleep with other races. So either complain to the black studios and encourage everyone else to complain about their shitty products or its better to do nothing. Because I know for a fact that if the black r interracial studios were casting consistently hot women like 9s and 10s, every days no one would give a rats ass or notice the few racist.
-racist family
-fear of being shamed by family who don't want them shooting with giant dick black men (like all black pornstars have giant dicks; lol)
-racist agents (who pressure them not to take interracial scenes)
-And the least common which probably numbers less than 10 are ones who've just never been called for it or it just never came up or the logisitics were off etc.
-racist themselves (simply dislike black men because they hang around other racist- these girls are easy to idenfiy because they all tend to hang around each other and often are at the same company)
I don't watch that much 'Murka porn anymore, there are a few girls who I still watch I think are hot like Angelina Valentine but I really don't watch it that much. I'm not buying the arguments against interracial pornstars being not racist because the excuses don't seem non-racial
1. Black guys are too big. There are small dick black guys in porn
2. The scenes are degrading, please I've seen way more degrading shit on used and abused type websites and the girls lined up around the corner to shoot for them
3. Its uncomfortable, fine but don't let me catch you with no dp, gaggin or anal or the other dozen sex scenes that ain't comfortable.
4. Its preference. I think that is admitting being racist. If a jew ran a business with a "preference" for hiring non-whites I'd raise my eye brow and thin what the fuck is that. if a girl is fucking only pretty white boys, with the six pack and the good looks I might buy it. But if she is fucking dudes at the bunny ranch, escorting, doing old guys, fat guys, unattractive guys, balding guys, ron jeremy and minons types. Then she is probably a racist using preference as a cover. Preference can only take you so far, can I have preference to only serve jews and koreans and arabs at my banks because those groups are on average more wealthy? Sorry whites, mexicans and blacks, I'm not racist I just have a preference for banking with asians?
5. The preference argument also becomes completely destroyed once you factor in the ton of women who shot interracial early on and then suddenly get a new agent mid career and stop shooting interracial. Am I to believe that just dozens of girls all of a sudden realize they have dis-preference for black/latino men in the middle of their careers? And how is it that many of these girls with preferences for white end up fucking black guys off screen? And how is it they have no problem shooting with black men... so long as they thought theblack man they fucked was not black hmmm hmmm missy stone and vanessa lane
6. The whole not shooting interracial porn is a completely Murkan phenomenon. I can't think of many European pornstars who don't do it... until they come to America and are indoctrinated by non-black agents (its not always white agents- but mostly is, sometimes its Asians like chinese or koreans, sometimes it jews too and I think there was even a black guy who was a performer whose name escapes me who was even telling girls this) that the black man is the devil.
The only non-racial argument I'd buy is that the black porn studios aren't coming up with enough money for some of the girls, and this may be partially true. You see because if the black porn studios wanted to they could easily bring over 26 extremely hot women like jessica ferrera, francesca felucci, angel dark, laura lion, michelle moist, delta white, chipy marlow, lily love, adeline lange, shaina, rebeca linares, jessica neight, cayenne klein erica fontes, alesha bizart, melissa morgan, tatianna la vega maya gates, lucianna karel nika noir, black angelika cory everson, holly wellin, lucy lee, alessei romei, cherry jul etc type girls. All these chick shoot interracial, all of them are hot. I've been to the Ukraine, a girl like Nika Noire or nikki benz is a dime a dozen there, other than the breast implants (which didn't improve her looks imo) you can find chicks like that on every street corner. Instead of shooting 24 hot girls I've seen alot of sites prefer to shoot a huge volume of average looking chicks with maybe 5 hot chicks out of 50. If any guy went and shot 26 stars of that hottness he'd probably have the number 1 website and dvd in interracial instantly in America and become a millionaire very quickly if the interracial genre is truly as big as people say.
Then blacks and latinos complain why some of the hot chicks don't do interracial. Tell place like black n blonds or shane d or etc to stop shooting ugly girls and spend the money to find hot ones even if they have to go to Europe or Argentina or whatever to find them. There are plenty of dudes like Joachim Kessef and Kid Jamaica and other black guy who name I don't know in porn consistently fucking hot women from all over Europe, you won't hear them complain about this or that chick don't do interracial because that is an American view that doesn't make sense to the rest of the world. Someone who fucks for money will pretty much fuck anyone for money. They may have preference, like they prefer you look a certain way, or they'll only sleep with tall man, or man with six pack, or man with cute face or long dick or wide dick or small dick. Or they might only fuck a certain type of women, like maybe a big women or a small women or a thin women, but its not racial except in America. White pornstudios go to ukraine, latin america, russia, europe, brazil (like mike in braz!). They don't complain o American women are fat we can't find hot women, no they go get foreign women. Black studio need to do the same, if they can't find enough hot american women who will fuck black guy or latino guy or asian guy, stop blaming whitey and get off your ass and do something about it. America is the most expensive country to shoot porn. You can pay cute or hot girl in alot of these places in Europe 1/10th of what your paying milfs and large women in America to shoot the same scene and the rent and production team is way cheaper.
Frankly I am surprised there are any black studios who choose to still shoot primarily in America. I'd just say American latina women are hotter on the high end than what can be found in europe in its equivalent category (Arab and indian/paki girls). If I was a black who was running a company like shane diesel, I'd just distribute or sell my product in america but shoot entirely in czech and slovakia, or hungary and romania russia and france and occassionally bring in a few british, dutch or spanish or portuguese girls, toss a few finnish and swedes and norwegian and you have a nice variety of chicks.
I don't know why people whine about it when the solution is so obvious. Which makes me wonder, do the people who run those sites or black pornstudios just not care enough, maybe they are making more money shooting sloppy, fat chicks milf and 5 in 500 hot chicks to the point that it is more profitable to shoot 5 hot girls in 10 months and charge $20 a month and then fill the rest of the month with ugly, fat, sloppy, no makeup, low budget film etc chicks than to shoot 26 hot ones.
I think interracial porn aficionados should be more angry with black film studios (although many of them aren't run by blacks but they produce films with mainly black actors in them) shooting low budget, half ass films full of racist classless content and no or shitty scripts than at racist white pornstars, racist white agents other racist whites like producers. After all, you presumably are not paying white racist pornstars or white racist websites and dvds. And white racism in porn is only widespread in the usa, so its not like you can't find white women.
I won't criticize Lex steel, he is the most solid american studio out there and probably one of the top interracial sites in the wor;d. But at a certain level blacks and latinos are not helping themselves. The barrier to entry to porn are moderately low. You need decent lighting, good cameras hot chick and decent performer. There are certainly middle class blacks and latinos on this board who could afford to set up a porn studio that was of a high quality but choose to complain. How do half these pornstars get into porn, they go in through agencies. The agenciess control alot of the flow of talent. If blacks want more hot chicks in porn shooting interracial, just open up your own agencies and encourage the girls do interracial like how some of the racist agents discourage them from doing interracial.
What I see is alot of black guys, even ones in porn, making excuses for underachieving.If I am a white guy and go all the way to Ukraine, spend thousands on flying the girl over and putting her in hotel and sign her to contract. Maybe I don't want my girl shooting for Shane Diesel or freaks of cock because he doesn't have the kind of money vivid have or isn't wiling to pay it so I tell her don't shoot for the cheapo producers because I want to make the most money. and If I am black guy and go to Romania and get hot girl and bring her back under same circumstance, I want her to make me the most money before her pussy blows out, maybe I don't want her shooting with used and abused or some rough sex site run by a white guy because I want to make the most money.
I agree with the OP that there may be racism stopping some girls from shooting with black guy or latino/asian guy etc. But are black/latino/asian guy setting up their own agencies, going to the same place and doing the same thing as white guy like travelling to europe to find hot chicks before they are even known? are they travelling accross america to find the same hot chicks and trying to get them into porn FIRST? Or are alot of black producers (not counting lex steele) trying to just hire models from white run agencies in the usa (who they already know are racist) and who they don't have the money to pay the girls like the major company like vivid and making excuse to not do their own hard work. are they trying to get the white agents to do all the hard work then get the girl for cheap price? There might be alot of racist in murka porn but these black websites don't have good excuses for running such shitty sites full of shitty content. Because if the content was that good no one would notice nor care that there are what 50-100 or so hot white pornstars who won't fuck black/asian/latino guy?
Because in the world you could find thousands probably tens of thousands of hot white pornstars who'd fuck black guys. The blame lies partially on white racist. But if all the white owned agency closed tomorrow I don't think any of those sites but lex steele could continue. If all the agencies was black owned the percent of women not shooting interracial would probably be near 0, because any racist would just leave porn or go do webcams or something. Blacks need to stop making excuses and feeling sorry for themselves at some point and start looking at what they can change because you clearly establish many white men running the agencies are racist in your opinion, so why are you expecting racist to help your sites out? But as I said, I think the general interracial porn viewer is interested in the changes I mentioned, I think many of those running the businesses are happy with their current model of shooting 5 hot chicks in 5 or 10 months and shooting 45 -100 average ones in ratio because it cost them less and they are only looking at their cost not potential revenue. interracial porn aficionados shouldn't be mad at white racist who basically ignore blacks and cock block interracial scenes, they should be more mad at the people they are paying hundreds of dollars to produce consistently crummy content and who make ZERO effort to step up the production quality or quality of the girls, black studio producers.
We can blame white racist people to the cows come home, but if they are truly racist they don't give a shit about your opinion because they are racist and will never sleep with other races. So either complain to the black studios and encourage everyone else to complain about their shitty products or its better to do nothing. Because I know for a fact that if the black r interracial studios were casting consistently hot women like 9s and 10s, every days no one would give a rats ass or notice the few racist.
monkeyspanky45
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this motherfucker wrote a book
LOL! Best comment in this whole damn thread :2 cents:
Just like there is good porn and bad porn... there is good interracial porn and bad interracial porn.
Most porn is low quality, grind out daily content to meet the demand of the porn consuming public. If there is a demand for it, the porn industry will meet that demand. And with so many niche categories of porn you get the whole variety of production.
Unfortunately misogyny and racism are part of society and people are willing to put that into their porn if there is demand for it, if it makes money.
I usually turn the volume down on porn... just watch the action. There isn't a lot of wisdom or reality to be heard from a porn set.
Most porn is low quality, grind out daily content to meet the demand of the porn consuming public. If there is a demand for it, the porn industry will meet that demand. And with so many niche categories of porn you get the whole variety of production.
Unfortunately misogyny and racism are part of society and people are willing to put that into their porn if there is demand for it, if it makes money.
I usually turn the volume down on porn... just watch the action. There isn't a lot of wisdom or reality to be heard from a porn set.
dirtylittleholly
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As a cam girl, I get asked by black men to call them the n-word all the time. That's why you'll see it in so many interracial pornos... because it's in demand. And as far as interracial cuckold movies go, it's the same thing... a lot of white guys want to be humiliated in that way. They've heard that black men have much bigger cocks than they do, and they find it humiliating for a white girl to tell them how puny their cock is in comparison to a black one. And this isn't something that I just started noticing recently. I've been camming for 3 years, and have always had a lot of requests for stuff like this. I guess if it bothers you, then don't watch it. But the reason it's being made is because there's a big market for it.
LeyaFalcon
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EXACTLY! More often than not, black men love it when I talk about their big ****** dicks in my cracker slut pussy!
What bothers me about interracial porn is that it doesn't get me off. If I want to fap to black porn I'll watch Mya Lushes, Christie Sweet, Cassidy Banks, Jezabel Vessir, Jade Aspen, Pinky or my personal favorite Diamond Monroe. But stop limiting yourself to only fucking black guys. There's a lot of people out there that don't like interracial porn because we don't like the whole I'm black my dick is HUGE and will HURT you, this is so wrong, I'm so ghetto your so white, and this black dick makes my face do funny faces porn. If you only do interracial than I will not give you a second look. Not because I'm raciest, because I don't like it.
LeyaFalcon
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Do your research. I work with all kinds of different guys.
I've never been into interracial porn and never understood the appeal. A few months ago my wife brought home a black guy for the first time and, because I've never enjoyed IR porn in the past, I really thought it was going to turn me off. The opposite happened though. There really was something extremely hot about seeing his black cock slide into her. The contrast and all that.
After watching them together, my mind change a bit regarding IR porn.
LeyaFalcon
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the contrast is fuckin beautiful!
i like interracial porn as long as it is about banging a hot girl, i am off when it comes to humiliation. I love seeing girls getting their holes stretched and so on, i even love the triple anals and vaginals, but cuckolds, hell no, it's off for me.
btw this is my opinion.
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i am opposite of you lol. is she hot?
btw this is my opinion.
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i am opposite of you lol. is she hot?
Yeah, she's hot. I posted pics of her (no face) in the Girlfriend thread a while back.
I know everybody has a different definition of cuckolds, but I don't consider myself one. I'm not into the humiliation either. But a couple times a year, I enjoy watching her with other men. It was something that I proposed years back and she finally decided to give it a try.
The black guy that she brought home was somebody she had met and flirted with at the yoga classes she goes to. I was a bit shocked when I saw him because she had never mentioned being generally attracted to black men before. After I watched her with the guy and she saw that I enjoyed it and was cool with it, she later admitted that she and her best friend hooked up with a black guy last summer when they had a girls night out with some other friends. That was her first experience and I guess now she's a lot more open to it.
damn.... have you ever done a threesome or so including another dude? so I guess you guys tell each other when have sex with other people? how about you with other girls, is she ok with it?
All good and I agree but what about the girls who won't do IR saying "I'm just not attracted to black men" but will do scenes with Ron Jeremy and escort/ work at the Bunny Ranch??? You saying they are attracted to all of their clients? Its a doge based on racism. I'm not attracted to most redheads but I did scenes with redheads. Your argument isn't valid in most cases.
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