Most Republicans believe the U.S. Health Care System is the Best in the World
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You can't choose what tests your doctor has to run. Your doctor and your wallet do the choosing. I don't know what strange illusion of free choice you have when it comes to your visits at the doctor's office.
And that doesn't change with a good public health care system. It's like that where I live. If I want any tests besides those that my doctor sees fit, I have to pay them myself, either in part or in whole, depending on how much health insurance I pay and what my health insurance carrier wants to contribute. For example, my insurance company doesn't pay for "voluntary" skin examinations of moles (at least as long as I'm under a certain age) unless they are "suspicious", but they pay part of voluntary or additional physical therapy, and voluntary additional treatment of peripheral neuropathy or migraine they even pay in full.
You know what's absurd, this anti-government rambling all the time. Be glad you have a government bound to laws. Unlike some African countries, where you can be shot at your doorstep, because the police and the government don't care... if it's not actually them having ordered your shooting...
Nobody is putting your health into the governments hands. What's supposed to happen in a system with public health care is that the government provides a certain minimal level of care so that your health isn't put completely into the hands of your employer and your social background.
What is it with Americans and France? As if France was the epitome of the cowardly socialist country. Perhaps you should try going there some time. And not just for the Eiffel tower. The average tax payer does not pay more taxes in France than in Germany, England or the US. The property or wealth taxes for example are much lower in France than in the US.
That's the same thing for almost every European country, not just France. Why do you think, America is bankrupt? Why do you think, so many hospitals or universities in the US can't pay their bills? In reality, they can't afford to pay their doctors, scholars and scientists as much as they actually do pay them, but they just do it.
I'd rather get treatment in the US if I was sick than just about anywhere else. That's certainly not to say that there aren't some fantastic hospitals and research facilities in other places too, but the US health system is pretty darn good if you have insurance.
22 Year Old Woman Dies of Swine Flu, because of Lack of Insurance
Just to put a face to this debate.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/news...victim-remembered-for-her-passion-315472.html
Just to put a face to this debate.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/news...victim-remembered-for-her-passion-315472.html
MILF Man
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^^^But I wouldn't be the least surprised if she has the latest iPhone and iPod, and HD television, more dvd's than you can count, and wears very expensive clothes.
Problem is, there are a lot of ignorant people who have their priorities completely screwed up. The U.S. is a nation of consumers who for some reason disregard their health.
Problem is, there are a lot of ignorant people who have their priorities completely screwed up. The U.S. is a nation of consumers who for some reason disregard their health.
jasonk282
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Of course she had a iPhone and Blackberry she is a college student. Works at a coffee shop, hippie, bet ashe did not believe in westeren medical anyways.
Wow she worked 2 jobs ,did all kinds of good things and gets denounced as being a material girl.
She was a good person who possibly died of swine flu who did not get treatment because of a lack of insurance and people post it's her own fault somehow.
Real classy.
She was a good person who possibly died of swine flu who did not get treatment because of a lack of insurance and people post it's her own fault somehow.
Real classy.
MILF Man
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I said, that I wouldn't be surprised if she spent her money on things I mentioned.
There are too many people in the U.S. who do spend their money on what they want instead of what they need such as health insurance. But than in the end they want people to feel sorry for them when they get sick and can't take care of themselves. I have no fuckin' sympathy for these people at all!
They first need to grow up and start taking some responsibility!
There are too many people in the U.S. who do spend their money on what they want instead of what they need such as health insurance. But than in the end they want people to feel sorry for them when they get sick and can't take care of themselves. I have no fuckin' sympathy for these people at all!
They first need to grow up and start taking some responsibility!
You've jump to a petty big conclusion there.
49 million Americans have no health insurance, one third of them are only without it for less than 6 months. that is because most people get health insurance with their jobs. The last thing you want to do when you are made unemployed is start sending extra money.
60% of home repossessions are because of medical bills.
The system in the UK isn't perfect but you have the choice to pay.
Free treatmant = good but slow.
Payed treatment = world class.
I loved the quote by Sarah Palin saying the NHS would have used euthanasia
on Stephen Hawkins, he actually credits the NHS for his survival.
She won't be growing up. She is dead because she could not afford to go to the doctor. Stop spouting the insurance industry’s talking points for a minute and think about that. This young lady is dead because she could not afford to go the doctor.
No one should die because they cannot afford health care, and no one should go broke because they get sick.
Wow she worked 2 jobs ,did all kinds of good things and gets denounced as being a material girl.
She was a good person who possibly died of swine flu who did not get treatment because of a lack of insurance and people post it's her own fault somehow.
Real classy.
Instead of spending your money on useless crap like Ipod, Iphone or other unnecessary luxury or gadgetic item, save it for useful things.
When people don't know how to save and/or spare money, they should be blaming themselves.
Do you think that hardwork citizens should pay for others who are broke???
I think not, like I said in my previous post, learning how to save money is essential.
MILF Man
milf n' cookies
Your exactly right! People need to prioritize their necessities from their needs or wants.
People have this mentality today that the government should provide them with health insurance, provide a job, provide a home, provide a car, take care of their children, etc., etc., etc. It's absolutely ridiculous!
Some of you people are disgusting. How dare you spout your hatefull, ignorant rightwinged retoric and call yourself human! You dumb, ignorant, selfcentered hate and fear mongers make me sick! You don't care about how circumstances can change in an instant and turn someones life upside down. You don't care about people who suddenly find themselves without a job. You don't care that some people have to choose between health insurance and feeding their family. None of that matters because you only see what your narrow minded selfcentered mind allows you to see and you start spouting your filth about how it's their own fault. Shame on you!
Um, wow... I don't think that's what it's about at all. The fact based on polling is that the vast majority of the uninsured in American CAN afford to buy insurance. This group simply chooses not to spend money on a policy, especially younger people who still think they are immortal (Lord knows I did when I was young). And for the truly destitute, there are many options available, and NO hospital can deny treatment to someone who needs it.
Be careful of calling people you don't agree with names, because it can make you sound just as "intolerant" as the people you are calling out in your post. You are using emotion to try and debate a policy issue, the merits of which should be thought about rationally and within the context of the American Constitutional / Federalist system.
jasonk282
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Like I stated before it's the American dream, Me Me Me , fuck everyone else.
I ONLY care that my wife, child and I have health care, if people don't want it or can't afford it that is not my fault.
And actually as a college student as long as she was taking at least 15 credits a semester she should be covered under her parents health care till she is 25.
Also, most universities have an infirmary on campus for students when they become sick or need medical attention. It's paid for as part of tuition. I don't know if Miami University has that or not, but the majority of accredited colleges & universities do.
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