Michele Bachmann will not seek reelection in 2014

[Sam Fisher]

I too would like to take iceman's challenge of gaffes of Bachmann versus Pelosi.

The following are ten outrageous statements made by Pelosi.

1.“The Bible tells us in the Old Testament, ‘To minister to the needs of God’s creation is an act of worship. To ignore those needs is to dishonor the God who made us.’ On this Earth Day, and every day, let us pledge to our children, and our children’s children, that they will have clean air to breathe, clean water to drink, and the opportunity to experience the wonders of nature.”

Nice. The only problem is the Old Testament contains no such quote.

2. “This initiative is funded by the high end – we call it Astroturf It’s not really a grassroots movement.”

Just gut-wrenching hypocrisy -Astroturf is all the Dem Socialists know, so naturally she accuses her political opposition of what her side does in spades.

3. “Every week we don’t pass a Stimulus package, 500 million Americans lose their jobs.”

Yeah, she actually said that.

4. I’m confident…I’m hopeful that we’ll have a (health care) bill as a Christmas present for the American people.

This, after polls were showing a majority of the American people were against it, after several weeks of bruising (for Dems) town hall meetings in which citizens voiced their opposition to the bill, and after hundreds of thousands showed up in Washington to protest the bill…

5.. You go through the gate. If the gate’s closed, you go over the fence. If the fence is too high, we’ll pole-vault in. If that doesn’t work, we’ll parachute in. But we’re going to get health care reform passed for the American people.

At the time, 61% of the American people were saying it was time for Congress to scrap ObamaCare.

6.“Unemployment benefits are creating jobs faster than practically any other program”

Imagine how many jobs we could create if everyone quit their jobs! Wait…..

7. “I believe in natural gas as a clean, cheap alternative to fossil fuels.”

Needless to say, natural gas is a fossil fuel.

8. “I think it’s unAmerican.” (to enforce immigration law).

She said that to a Hispanic audience, and refused to clarify the statement when Fox News called her office later on for comment.

9. Well, the family planning services reduce cost. They reduce cost.

This was in response to a question from George Stephanopoulos about the wisdom of spending millions of dollars on birth control funding in the stimulus package.

10. “We have to pass the (health care) bill so you can find out what is in it”.

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/12/27/top-10-most-outrageous-quotes-from-nancy-pelosi/

 

[Mayhem]

And most people that hold the position of speaker step down or even retire after their party receives a trouncing like she did in 2010. But she and her colleagues decided that she just had to hold onto power.

I am going to say this and I am going to be about as clear as I can be. The radical approach is working for the left. I will support any radical on the right because weak establishment moderates aren't cutting it. If I am gonna lose an election I want it to be with a real conservative that may hold controversial views but has some fucking back bone. There is no dealing with liberals no middle road and no compromise. You must be defeated and I will align myself with every radical right wing politician there is until a battle royale ensues. Let the best team win but I want my team represented with fighters not mealy mouthed moderate republicans who couldn't beat their way out of a paper bag.

I support your decision because the strategy you describe is what is systematically demolishing the Right-wing. Palin-gone, Bachmann-going, West-gone, Walsh-gone, Mourdoch-gone, Akin-gone, Roscoe Bartlett-gone, Tom Smith-gone, Roger Rivard-gone, John Koster-gone. Keep supporting the sand pounders. You'll be the Left's best friend for as long as you do.

 

[Rattrap]

There is no dealing with liberals no middle road and no compromise. You must be defeated and I will align myself with every radical right wing politician there is until a battle royale ensues. Let the best team win but I want my team represented with fighters not mealy mouthed moderate republicans who couldn't beat their way out of a paper bag.

Shit. I had just complemented you, and then you go personifying almost everything that is wrong with American politics. Like a football game.

What a shame.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Shit. I had just complemented you, and then you go personifying almost everything that is wrong with American politics. Like a football game.

What a shame.

Sorry to disappoint you. I would like to see a list of your favorite current Democrat politicians just to compare notes.

 

[Jack Davenport]

I support your decision because the strategy you describe is what is systematically demolishing the Right-wing. Palin-gone, Bachmann-going, West-gone, Walsh-gone, Mourdoch-gone, Akin-gone, Roscoe Bartlett-gone, Tom Smith-gone, Roger Rivard-gone, John Koster-gone. Keep supporting the sand pounders. You'll be the Left's best friend for as long as you do.

And why are they gone? Because the establishment rules the republican party. Who have done absolutely nothing for us conservatives in 20 plus years.

 

[Mayhem]

And why are they gone? Because the establishment rules the republican party. Who have done absolutely nothing for us conservatives in 20 plus years.

No, they're gone because they are/were wingnuts who nobody in their right mind would vote for.

 

[Jack Davenport]

No, they're gone because they are/were wingnuts who nobody in their right mind would vote for.

And the establishment aren't winning any major victories either in spite of all their cow towing .

Should I prepare a list of left wing nuts that should hit the road too?

 

[Mayhem]

And the establishment aren't winning any major victories either in spite of all their cow towing .

Should I prepare a list of left wing nuts that should hit the road too?

No one is stopping you. But Michele Bachmann is the topic of this thread, she is not seeking re-election, she is under investigation by a slew of federal agencies for ethics violations perpetrated during her Almighty-inspired Presidential campaign, she didn't accomplish shit while in office, her actions, accusations and conduct have had nothing to do with governing, and all these inflammatory accusations she has levied have been proven to have little or no basis in fact.

 

[Jack Davenport]

No one is stopping you. But Michele Bachmann is the topic of this thread, she is not seeking re-election, she is under investigation by a slew of federal agencies for ethics violations perpetrated during her Almighty-inspired Presidential campaign, she didn't accomplish shit while in office, her actions, accusations and conduct have had nothing to do with governing, and all these inflammatory accusations she has levied have been proven to have little or no basis in fact.

She accomplished plenty . She decided to have a rally at the Capitol steps and so many showed up for it that even fuckers like Cantor and Boehner who were opposed to her holding it had to acquiesce and join in. She speaks her mind and I will back her for that.

Anyone can be investigated. Anyone can be indicted, you can indict a pepperoni pizza.

As I said earlier in the thread, I have spoken to someone that is well connected in Minnesota and no one is worried about this investigation.

 

[xfire]

She's accomplished a lot of gum flapping and I won't be surprised when you're right about her joining Roger Ailes' entertainment organization.

 

[Jack Davenport]

She's accomplished a lot of gum flapping and I won't be surprised when you're right about her joining Roger Ailes' entertainment organization.

This is the way I see it. One of the greatest constitutional scholars and conservative minds Mark Levin supports her. If he with his pedigree can have her back, so can I.

LOL @ Ailes entertainment. No more "entertainment" than MSNBC

 

[xfire]

I notice that you do a lot of equivocation, for instance Nancy Pelosi to counter Michele Bachmann's insipidness, and another example, equivocating Fox News with MSNBC. Tell me how dragging these examples into your argument furthers it?

 

[Sam Fisher]

She's accomplished a lot of gum flapping and I won't be surprised when you're right about her joining Roger Ailes' NUMBER ONE RATED NEWS organization.

Fixed it for ya.

 

[Jack Davenport]

I notice that you do a lot of equivocation, for instance Nancy Pelosi to counter Michele Bachmann's insipidness, and another example, equivocating Fox News with MSNBC. Tell me how dragging these examples into your argument furthers it?

Because unlike you, I actually watch or read the news organizations that I critique as opposed to your spoon fed hatred of conservative news outlets because it is part of the liberal mantra. I know you can't quite wrap your mind around the fact that Pelosi is a blathering fool because she stands for many of the things you do and is a foot soldier in the liberal agenda but she is considered to be just as much an idiot as you and others on your side proclaim Bachmann to be. Of course I don't expect you to see that.

And equivocation is my business, and business is good.

 

[Rattrap]

Sorry to disappoint you. I would like to see a list of your favorite current Democrat politicians just to compare notes.

A mistake you're making here - and it's a common one - is that because I've boo'd Bachmann, you assume I'm a Democrat. But I'm not. I've never been registered as, and there's only one Democrat I've voted for more than once (you can consider that my 'list of favorites', if you so desire...a list one one: Earl Blumenauer).

A second mistake you're making is - I'm sure there's a real name for this, but I'm just going to make up something - the 'defense by tearing everything else down'. Also very common. Responding to "Your politician did this!" with "Yeah, well yours (keeping in mind you're assuming who mine are) did this!" does not defend your politician. It may make them come off better by lowering the bar - making them seem higher because everything around them is lower, but in reality they aren't getting any taller.

You won't find me defending Pelosi. Nor would you ever find me voting for her if I were in a place that I could. That said, most of what you've quoted from her doesn't come off as stupid so much as playing politics - plenty of hyperbole and bullshit, to be sure. Whether that's just as bad as worse is a separate judgement call, but from what you posted she still doesn't approach Bachmann's level.

That all said...please don't treat politics like a football game, where you pick a team for the sake of picking a team. That really is contributing to the downward spiral of politics in this country. When you and many thousands of others vote with that mentality, I can pretty much guarantee you things will never get any better.

 

[xfire]

Because unlike you, I actually watch or read the news organizations that I critique as opposed to your spoon fed hatred of conservative news outlets because it is part of the liberal mantra. I know you can't quite wrap your mind around the fact that Pelosi is a blathering fool because she stands for many of the things you do and is a foot soldier in the liberal agenda but she is considered to be just as much an idiot as you and others on your side proclaim Bachmann to be. Of course I don't expect you to see that.

And equivocation is my business, and business is good.

Please point out where I defended Pelosi. And yes, I know your game of three card monte. I like how you make declarative statements of truth that are really just your opinion, and wrap them in insults while you do it. That entire quoted post is nothing but an unwarranted attack, why so angry, brother? I merely asked what good it does to your argument to drag Pelosi and MSNBC into it. I'll surmise from your non-response, "nothing".

 

[Jack Davenport]

A mistake you're making here - and it's a common one - is that because I've boo'd Bachmann, you assume I'm a Democrat. But I'm not. I've never been registered as, and there's only one Democrat I've voted for more than once (you can consider that my 'list of favorites', if you so desire...a list one one: Earl Blumenauer).

A second mistake you're making is - I'm sure there's a real name for this, but I'm just going to make up something - the 'defense by tearing everything else down'. Also very common. Responding to "Your politician did this!" with "Yeah, well yours (keeping in mind you're assuming who mine are) did this!" does not defend your politician. It may make them come off better by lowering the bar - making them seem higher because everything around them is lower, but in reality they aren't getting any taller.

You won't find me defending Pelosi. Nor would you ever find me voting for her if I were in a place that I could. That said, most of what you've quoted from her doesn't come off as stupid so much as playing politics. Whether that's just as bad as worse is a separate judgement call, but from what you posted she still doesn't approach Bachmann's level.

That all said...please don't treat politics like a football game, where you pick a team for the sake of picking a team. That really is contributing to the downward spiral of politics in this country. When you and many thousands of others vote with that mentality, I can pretty much guarantee you things will never get any better.

Your critical thinking skills are a little off the mark today. I said name your favorite Democrat politicians, you don't have to be a Democrat to have some. So now you are assuming that I am assuming.

And when the Speaker of The House doesn't know the difference between the first or second amendment she is stupid, uninformed or just plain not qualified for the job.

And yes, I am very partisan,even more so lately.

 

[Rey C.]

I like Bachmann because if the left attack her like is happening here she is doing something right as a conservative.


Oh and Rey... FDR was a a socialist

Liking someone simply because people you don't agree with don't like her is irrational and will surely lead you to support people who aren't fit to be town dog catcher: Don Rumsfeld, Michele Bachmann, Dick Cheney, et al. By that logic, can we assume that you are also a fan of David Duke?

Oh and Blue Countach... FDR did not sign the Hoot-Smalley (or the Smoot-Hawley) Bill into law. So....??? :dunno: That was Hoover, my friend. He was a Republican. And both Smoot and Hawley were also Republicans - not Democrats. To get the names of the bill's sponsors confused was a gaffe - we all do that from time to time. But she continued to try to make the argument that what did not transpire is what transpired. Now that part... that wasn't a gaffe. That was my sweetie pie being her typical ignorant, stupid self. If you want to hitch your wagon to a woman who makes extreme or outrageous statements on occasion, but still has a good command of facts and data, go with Laura Ingraham - you can thank me later. She went to a real law school (she was at Law when I was at Darden) - not a religious diploma mill that lost its accreditation shortly after she stumbled out the door. Life and age have caught up with Laura, but there was a time, let me tell you, when Playboy should have offered her a blank check to pose. In Michele's case, that's the only "value" that she really has (outside of unintentional comedy). But Laura, in addition to her one time hotness factor, is a very smart cookie to boot.

This is what gets you far right extremists into trouble. Instead of supporting intelligent people who have a variety of views, depending on the issue, you are too quick to hitch your wagons to bomb throwers, many of whom are either silly in the head or just outright dumb. Why not Kay Bailey Hutchinson? Why Michele Bachmann? Why Sarah P@lin? Unfortunate.

 

[Sam Fisher]

Why not Kay Bailey Hutchinson? Why Michele Bachmann? Why Sarah P@lin? Unfortunate.

I personally would have a very difficult time criticizing [NOBABE]Sarah Palin[/NOBABE], who governed the state of Alaska, who by the way did a very good job of it. In fact, I believe Alaska while she was Governor did quite well economically.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Liking someone simply because people you don't agree with don't like her is irrational and will surely lead you to support people who aren't fit to be town dog catcher: Don Rumsfeld, Michele Bachmann, Dick Cheney, et al. By that logic, can we assume that you are also a fan of David Duke?

Oh and Blue Countach... FDR did not sign the Hoot-Smalley (or the Smoot-Hawley) Bill into law. So....??? :dunno: That was Hoover, my friend. He was a Republican. And both Smoot and Hawley were also Republicans - not Democrats. To get the names of the bill's sponsors confused was a gaffe - we all do that from time to time. But she continued to try to make the argument that what did not transpire is what transpired. Now that part... that wasn't a gaffe. That was my sweetie pie being her typical ignorant, stupid self. If you want to hitch your wagon to a woman who makes extreme or outrageous statements on occasion, but still has a good command of facts and data, go with Laura Ingraham - you can thank me later. She went to a real law school (she was at Law when I was at Darden) - not a religious diploma mill that lost its accreditation shortly after she stumbled out the door. Life and age have caught up with Laura, but there was a time, let me tell you, when Playboy should have offered her a blank check to pose. In Michele's case, that's the only "value" that she really has (outside of unintentional comedy). But Laura, in addition to her one time hotness factor, is a very smart cookie to boot.

This is what gets you far right extremists into trouble. Instead of supporting intelligent people who have a variety of views, depending on the issue, you are too quick to hitch your wagons to bomb throwers, many of whom are either silly in the head or just outright dumb. Why not Kay Bailey Hutchinson? Why Michele Bachmann? Why Sarah P@lin? Unfortunate.

I have met Laura. And what the hell are you rambling on about trying to explain to me about something Michele said? I said FDR was a socialist and many believe that he was.We don't need a recap of your post from yesterday. And so my sweetie Pelosi is corrected about the 500,000,000 comment and she just buries her head and keeps bulldozing forward. What's the fucking difference?

I know you like to position yourself as the consummate Libertarian around here and because you really don't have a vested interest in either party it is easy to come here and take pot shots toward the discussion and then move on until tomorrow. Which is basically all you do.