Meat Cleaver Madman On The Loose In NY !!

Torre82

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How about it, anti death penalty people.

Would you spare such a monster ? :confused:

:shrugs: I'm not anti-death, but I think it's rather .. repellent then, that you voice your opinions so..:ahem: passionately, and in such an array of topics. One would do well to be subtle sometimes, Face. Starting a topic.. or five.. with pointed questions doesnt start a convo off on the right path. :) Share with me your neuroses, mayhaps we have something in common?

Xanax for your thoughts.:2 cents:
 

georges

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update of the famous upper eastside slasher case
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/brief.cfm?id=53139
"Suspect Picked Out Of Police Line-Up
A Pennsylvania man has been questioned in the brutal murder of Manhattan psychologist Dr. Kathryn Faughey. Police say he was picked out of a photo line-up by the surviving victim, but prosecutors have not charged him with the crime."
 

georges

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Send the guy to Guantanamo so he won't annoy you anymore.
 
guantanamo where they would be beaten with a heated baseball bat till their last breath.

The fact that you could/would develop this idea says to me that indulging some collective SADISM is at least as much a part of your notion of punishment as is retribution for crime and protection of the general public. I mean, come on, "a heated baseball bat"?? The government should not be involved in catering to anyone's pleasure derived from the infliction of pain upon others, no matter how horrible the crimes they committed.

As for facetious's thread-starter, ok, I'll take your bait.

Clearly, the man has some serious mental problems. (You could have picked a better murderer for your pro-death penalty stance, couldn't you?) His brain is malfunctioning. Of course, society really has no plausible choice other than to hold HIM - the person in physical possession of that brain - accountable for his actions. And clearly, society needs to be protected from him. But killing him for actions that he likely couldn't control (and might not even remember committing) and didn't understand, well, it's just pointlessly cruel. Lock him up for life, perhaps make some efforts to rehabilitate, but still offer no chance for release from prison. I'll be happy to pay my part for the facility, to keep him isolated from any place I might go.

:2 cents:
 

maildude

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They should build a wall around New York and post sentries and put bombs on the roads out. They could put the criminals in there.
 
They should build a wall around New York and post sentries and put bombs on the roads out. They could put the criminals in there.


maildude
Location: Behind a letter sorting machine in Michigan.


Ever heard the saying "people that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"?:thefinger
 

Torre82

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His brain is malfunctioning. Of course, society really has no plausible choice other than to hold HIM - the person in physical possession of that brain - accountable for his actions. And clearly, society needs to be protected from him. But killing him for actions that he likely couldn't control (and might not even remember committing) and didn't understand, well, it's just pointlessly cruel.
:2 cents:

Prison is infinitely more cruel than a quick and dirty execution.

Want a good comparison? Put a cloth band-aid on the hairiest part of your body. Press it down good'n'hard. Now would you rather rip it off fast and only have it take out a few hairs, or excruciatingly slow and feel each hair pulled to the limit before ripping out of it's lil growin' place?

Prison is a breeding ground for monsters, why throw another one into the mix, eh?
 
Prison is infinitely more cruel than a quick and dirty execution.

Want a good comparison? Put a cloth band-aid on the hairiest part of your body. Press it down good'n'hard. Now would you rather rip it off fast and only have it take out a few hairs, or excruciatingly slow and feel each hair pulled to the limit before ripping out of it's lil growin' place?

Prison is a breeding ground for monsters, why throw another one into the mix, eh?

That's a pretty weak comparison. I won't bother to explain why.

So is the argument now that those convicted of murder (or rape or whatever is on the death penalty list lately) be killed FOR THEIR OWN SAKE, to avoid being cruel by NOT killing them? Silly.

As for excruciating, imagine sitting in a cell knowing that on some future date the government will strap you in and take your life. Considerably worse than knowing you'll just die of old age. Plenty of geriatrics feel mentally or physically imprisoned in their final years anyway...

And no, I wouldn't go along with any suggestion that the execution process be sped up. There have already been too many death row and life-imprisonment prisoners exonerated as is. Reducing their (or those on the outside working to determine the truth) chances further doesn't strike me as moving in the direction of greater justice.

And I've probably said it before, but I'll say it again, murderers and rapists are not "monsters" they are human beings. Deeply flawed and fallen human beings, true, but still human. Labelling them as monsters seems rather childish to me.
 
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