Like Hell I'm Going To Let Some Black President Help Me Pay For Dialysis

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this article makes one wonder, would NeoCons without health insurance really choose death instead of getting universal or single payer health care even if their own life depended on it?

Like Hell I'm Going To Let Some Black President Help Me Pay For Dialysis

That's so racist. JAJAJA (sarcasm intented) very pro health reform article. I wonder if someones going to read that article the other way thinking it's serious that he doesn't like health reform.

I have no opinion on the issue right now. I can't really say anything that will matter.
 
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this article makes one wonder, would RINOs, TeaBaggers, NeoCons without health insurance really choose death instead of getting universal or single payer health care even if their own lives depended on it?

Like Hell I'm Going To Let Some Black President Help Me Pay For Dialysis

"RINOS" and "NeoCons"??

You do know that a RINO is a liberal/progressive that runs as a Republican IN NAME ONLY, right? A RINO would be pro-socialized health care.

And a NeoCon is a former liberal turned conservative. It seems that people think it's a disparaging term for a Conservative.
 
RINOs, NeoCons, same difference
 
RINOs and NeoCons are the same shit to me
 
I put my hope for bipartisanship in the NeoCunts. They'll flock around the president sooner or later when they'll have to have their genital warts scraped out.
 
whoremaker = neocon plain and simple
 
If only. I'd kill myself before being a conservative.

Here's a newsflash Sparky; conservatives aren't the only people who find raging liberal douchebags annoying.


Sad, though, that I must hold something in common with conservatives, even if it is just a sense of intolerable ennui when reading your knuckle dragging, Kool-aid drinker posts. Alas, what would the world be without its tools.
 
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And a NeoCon is a former liberal turned conservative. It seems that people think it's a disparaging term for a Conservative.

Actually a Neo-con/liberal/nazi is someone who's ideas differ slightly from the original idea (whether this idea is Liberalism, Conservatism, Nazism , ...ism, etc) but who technically still promotes and agrees with the general concept of the original ism.

For instance : Original liberals had a certain idea about the economy (free market), schooling (free for everyone), independent personal development & less influence from the church, because liberals back in the 19th century believed the church tried to limit people's personal development.

Over time, certain ideas were scrapped or became less important. Free schooling was not feasible in the system they wanted & even some liberals turned to the church when they were facing personal problems.

What remained was a free market economy & the belief that people should develop independently. The people that promote this are called Neo-Liberals.

The difference between Nazi's and Neo-Nazi's is the way they look at society. Most Neo-Nazi's have little or no respect for society, which (I assume) they consider to be weak and infected by ... (enter whatever they hate in the dots). Old Nazis believed that society itself wasn't bad, but needed to be cleansed of some unwanted elements (everyone knows what this lead to...). A minor, but important difference.

Neo itself means little more than new & in the case of political streamings it simply means new ideas, certainly not that they're new members to the original idea. This is generally a good thing, since political ideas that don't evolve don't survive for a longer period of time. Yet, this can also be a bad thing.

Take communism for example. There's Marx's original idea and the way Lenin explained it (Leninism). Let's call this Leninism the original communism, when Stalin became the head of the communist party, his ideas differed (slightly) from Lenin's ideas (even though his ideas weren't perfect either, but then again, neither is bolshevism in general). One could say that the system he impemented was a form of neo-communism (although it's officially called Stalinism). Stalinism & Leninism, both communistic streams, kept on fighting for power during Soviet Russia's existance. Without Stalinism, The USSR might have survived a decade longer, yet, if Gorbachev had gotten to power earlier in his life and the other Eastern & Central European powers had still been more loyal to Russia, he might have succeeded in pushing through is reforms & we might have seen a true neo-communism.

Yet people with differing ideas, that usually can and do accept some of the ideas that the other political streaming has scrapped, use the neo word as an insult.

Example. Many socialists will use the word neo-liberal as an insult, since they generally do not agree with most of the POVs of current liberals, yet they do agree with distancing itself from the organised church & also agree with free schooling.

So a neocon is simply a consevative person that no longer believes in every part of the original concept of conservatism (either because it goes too far or not far enough) and whose ideas have shifted slightly (or a lot, depending on who you ask).
 
RINOs and NeoCons are the same shit to me

I hate to make my first board insult here, but if you believe that, you're dumb.

A RINO is a liberal who votes progressive, but runs as Republican. How the hell is that the same as a liberal convert who now votes according to party lines?

As far as the NeoCon debate goes, no. The term NeoCon was coined to describe Irving Kristol, a liberal Jewish New Yorker who became a pro-Zionist conservative. Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld are not 'NeoCons." Reagan was a NeoCon...Reagan changed his tune as he got older. Dennis Miller's a NeoCon. Dick Morris is a NeoCon.

It's really pretty simple. Calling a life-long Conservative a NeoCon is like calling the Pope a NeoCatholic.

I'm not a conservative, and I'm not defending them, but when you base your arguments on blatant innaccuracies, they hold no merit. It becomes moot.
 
^ no you're dumb. NeoCons are fraudulent Republicans who are Conservatives in name only becoz they are not genuine Conservatives in theory nor practice since their actions prove that they are inconsistent with Conservatism and they don't practice what they preach as history attests to
 
Even though this is from The Onion and is satire...

to answer Hellraiser's question: YES, teabagging Neocons and "Palin Conservatives" i.e. the Wal*Mart shopper conservative WILL vote against Logic and sound personal economic judgment to vote Republican.

It used to be Republicans had to trick the rural voter into voting Republican, now they don't have to trick.
 

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Get yours while supplies last !

No rain checks / limit one per customer :1orglaugh


Stop with the incessant labeling, otherwise I'll think that you guys are just bored conservatives attempting to undermine the democratic party.
 
^ no you're dumb. NeoCons are fraudulent Republicans who are Conservatives in name only becoz they are not genuine Conservatives in theory nor practice since their actions prove that they are inconsistent with Conservatism and they don't practice what they preach as history attests to

Then explain why you still justify RINO as a synonym for a Conservative?

Let' see; NeoCons are those who like spreading an American style of Democracy over seas, even by force. So, I suppose Wilson, FDR, Truman and Johnson were NeoCons? Oh, and Clinton. Can't foeget the NeoCon Clinton and his efforts in Eastern Europe, Iraq and Africa!

And Lincoln, the first Republican president waged war against the Confederacy to reincorporate them into The Union...he was a NeoCon? The FIRST REPUBLICAN was a NeoCon????
 
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