Let's Play War in Iraq Again!

[bobjustbob]

Iran funds the Sunni Hamas to destroy Israel but when they come knocking on their door it's a different story. Go ask the France for help.

 

[Rock Clancy]

Tony BLiar (sorry Blair) is all for a mass invasion of Iraq and Syria.
No doubt looking for more lucrative pay checks on the Neo Con lecture circuit he claims the current crisis has nothing to do with the ill conceived, and piss poorly executed, invasion and occupation of Iraq.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27852832

He seems to be under the impression that if we hadn't opened the floodgates to sectarian violence and extremism in Iraq, left a power vacuum in the region that resulted in a proxy war between Saudi Arabia and Iran, and generally stirred up fanatical resistance against the Assad regime then we would still have a major crisis in Iraq, Syria and the wider region.

Instead of accepting responsibility for lying the UK into a war that cost the lives of nearly 180 British troops, god knows how many Iraqis, and seriously destabilising the region he blames everyone from David Cameron and Obama to Mickey Mouse for not intervening even further into Syria.

The man is either a liar and knows it or he is seriously and psychotically delusional.

 

[Rey C.]

Better make sure you've got plenty of room on those tanks for these democratic senators who voted for the resolution to use force in Iraq back in 2002 if you want to play the partisan blame-game. By the way, one of them is the sitting VP and another the front-running presidential candidate for 2016:



Reference: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-love/who-voted-to-authorize-fo_b_85652.html

Oh, I'd have no problem strapping some sheepish Democrats to the tanks too. But I do put more of the blame on the ones who told the lie, rather than those who were just dumb enough to believe the lie. So Bush, Cheney and Rice would have to go on those lead tanks. I'd probably put the Democrats out in a field with mine detectors (all with dead batteries) to clear the way.

It's very sad that by "clearing the way for Democracy", all we really did was clear the way for Al Qaeda.

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

Oh, I'd have no problem strapping some sheepish Democrats to the tanks too. But I do put more of the blame on the ones who told the lie, rather than those who were just dumb enough to believe the lie. So Bush, Cheney and Rice would have to go on those lead tanks. I'd probably put the Democrats out in a field with mine detectors (all with dead batteries) to clear the way.

It's very sad that by "clearing the way for Democracy", all we really did was clear the way for Al Qaeda.

Piss Poor Pre Planning Gets Piss Poor Results.

 

[Jagger69]

Oh....and right on cue, the illustrious Dick Cheney (love the cowboy hat....nice touch!) with daughter Liz firmly in tow fires a shot across Obama's bow regarding the present circumstances in Iraq (and, no, this is NOT meant to be an SNL skit....although it would be a great one!):

Also right on cue, Obama's outgoing press secretary, Jay Carney, fired a pretty serious salvo back at the former VP in this exchange today at the White House during his final press conference:

Why Cheney refuses to just fade away (as GWB has so graciously done) is beyond me. I guess he just can't stand to stay out of the limelight!

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

Oh....and right on cue, the illustrious Dick Cheney (love the cowboy hat....nice touch!) with daughter Liz firmly in tow fires a shot across Obama's bow regarding the present circumstances in Iraq (and, no, this is NOT meant to be an SNL skit....although it would be a great one!):

Also right on cue, Obama's outgoing press secretary, Jay Carney, fired a pretty serious salvo back at the former VP in this exchange today at the White House during his final press conference:

Why Cheney refuses to just fade away (as GWB has so graciously done) is beyond me. I guess he just can't stand to stay out of the limelight!

Dick Cheney is an evil ruthless piece of shit and until that shitty ticker of his finally peters out he will continue to be a stain we cannot wash out.

 

[MustBeGood]

Reason why I was against the war in Iraq from the get go.

Destabilization. Now we are stuck to keep the peace because of the "Stupid Americans" believed all the lies that the Bush administration told about WMDs and Iraqis involved in 911 (which was a inside job helped by the Israel Secret Service to get us involved in their racist policy with the Palestinians to stop another united Arab world from attacking them and Oil)

Saddam had to use force to stabilize Iraq. After we kicked him out the three forces (Sunnis, Shiite and Kurds) are back at again.

WMDs threat, they got them from us in the Iraq.Iran war and were destroyed when Clinton threaten them in the 90's.

So more military action is needed and more innocent people will die as our industrial military complex will make more money with arms.

Thanks Bush! And Al Qaeda (The Base) was never in Iraq during Saddam's reign. A dictator will never let a outside group like that with free will.

And the Taliban was started by our two face friends in Saudi Arabia by the Royal family.

 

[MustBeGood]

What was the only institution after the fall of Baghdad that was secured?

The Oil Ministry.

Everything else was looted including the museum that holds artifacts from man kind beginning.

http://rense.com/general37/iil.htm

 

[MustBeGood]

Obama sending military advisers to Iraq
Associated Press By LARA JAKES and JULIE PACE
33 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Holding back from more robust options, President Barack Obama on Thursday said he was dispatching up to 300 military advisers to Iraq to help quell the rising insurgency in the crumbling state. He called on Iraqi leaders to govern with a more "inclusive agenda" to ensure the country does not descend into civil war.

"We do not have the ability to simply solve this problem by sending in tens of thousands of troops and committing the kinds of blood and treasure that has already been expended in Iraq," Obama told reporters in the White House briefing room. "Ultimately, this is something that is going to have to be solved by Iraqis."

 

[saschaxx]

...ahaaaaa, the US is sending *Military Advisors* to them , 300 of them ...?! :angels:

Are you sure that all of your *Military Advisors* will see the USA again ??
WHY don´t you let them KILL THEMSELVES, it´s THEIR problem whattafuck they gonna do, ... but Irak is calling, the USA follows ...

But I´m sure I know why ....OIL .
I just think for the USA the OIL is a lot MORE interesting but human lives .....FUCK YOURSELF, MR. PRESIDENT OBAMA BIN BULLSHIT !!:ak47:

 

[bobjustbob]

Advisors. They want OUR advice on how to handle things in this shithole? How about this, save the transport of these advisors and Skype the questions to the Pentagon.

 

[saschaxx]

Advisors. They want OUR advice on how to handle things in this shithole? How about this, save the transport of these advisors and Skype the questions to the Pentagon.

@bob : ...you don´t even know how RIGHT you are, this is one of the biggest shit-holes I ever have seen. I was there, in PERSON. 1st. I was in Basrah as a sailor about 32 years ago, 2nd I was there as an hydraulic engineer in the same fucking town to build their aircargo-systems, that was 1999 . Absolutely NOTHING had changed there, still the same ol bullshit between Schiit´s + Sunnit´s , still the same ol roads, still the same kind of corruption .
One can pay me 100 k - $ in one month, I would NOT go down there no more ... this is just a fucking SHIT-HOLE.

And the USA will *help* these AZZHOLES ?? CONGRATULATIONS MR PRESIDENT OBAMA BIN BULL-SHIT !!!! ...AND FUCKURSELF !:angels:

 

[assari]

And the USA will *help* these AZZHOLES ??

No western country do not want to help those people, but how to ensure cheap oil.

Most of them hate white people and most of us hate them so there has to be a Western army ensuring things.

Sad but true.

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

No western country do not want to help those people, but how to ensure cheap oil.

Most of them hate white people and most of us hate them so there has to be a Western army ensuring things.

Sad but true.

5000 years all these people have done is kill each other unless you insert Romans, British, Israelis, and/or Americans then the later become the targets. Rest assured if you leave these people to themselves they will begin to kill each other again it is religious brain farting at it most extreme and it isn't stopping any time soon.

 

[saschaxx]

So why not throw all kind of weaponery on their territory, ( no A - Bombs ) , make a HUGE FENCE round the area, so them BASTARDS can shoot eachother down . Whenever just a toe is behind the fence, a western country has the right to shoot.

So after a while we should get everything for free ....and NO, NO OIL on this planet is worth just a drop of blood !!!

And I just hope it wont be such a long time no more until someone finds an alternative for OIL . THEN those bastards can sit on their oil and clean their *holy body´s * with it. I´m sure this *alternative* is already found ...especially in the motor-area . But there are companie´s like Haliburton, Exxon, BP , Shell ...who bought the *rights* of those alternative(s) ...cause they still need to sell their oil ...smile . :angels::angels:

 

[Super Swinger]

[...]911 (which was a inside job helped by the Israel Secret Service to get us involved in their racist policy with the Palestinians [...]

It was a inside job between the Bush administration and Saudi Arabia Secret Services actually.

" So after the grotesquerie of the Taliban and Osama bin Laden and 15 of the 19 suicide killers of 9/11, meet Saudi Arabia’s latest monstrous contribution to world history: the Islamist Sunni caliphate of Iraq and the Levant,[...]"
Under Obama, Saudi Arabia will continue to be treated as a friendly “moderate” in the Arab world, even though its royal family is founded upon the Wahhabist convictions of the Sunni Islamists in Syria and Iraq [...]".
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iraq-crisis-sunni-caliphate-has-been-bankrolled-by-saudi-arabia-9533396.html

" After the 9/11 attacks, the public was told al Qaeda acted alone, with no state sponsors.[...]
President Bush inexplicably censored 28 full pages of the 800-page report.[...]
A pair of lawmakers who recently read the redacted portion say they are “absolutely shocked” at the level of foreign state involvement in the attacks.[...]
The Saudis deny any role in 9/11, but the CIA in one memo reportedly found “incontrovertible evidence” that Saudi government officials — not just wealthy Saudi hardliners, but high-level diplomats and intelligence officers employed by the kingdom — helped the hijackers both financially and logistically.[...]"
http://nypost.com/2013/12/15/inside-the-saudi-911-coverup/

"[...]It certainly appears that the U.S. government is protecting the Saudis.[...]"
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2013/12/u-s-cover-up-of-saudi-911-ties-probed-jw-has-secret-flight-docs/

Saudi arabia is about lies, hypocrisy and manipulation such as the american administration.

 

[MustBeGood]

5000 years all these people have done is kill each other unless you insert Romans, British, Israelis, and/or Americans then the later become the targets. Rest assured if you leave these people to themselves they will begin to kill each other again it is religious brain farting at it most extreme and it isn't stopping any time soon.

Sunni-Shiite Split Stems From Dispute Over Prophet

The Sunni-Shiite split is rooted in the question of who should succeed the Prophet Muhammad in leading Muslims after his death in 632.

Shiites say the prophet's cousin and son-in-law, Ali, was his rightful successor but he was cheated when authority went to those the Sunnis call the four "Rightfully Guided Caliphs" — Abu Bakr, Omar, Othman and, finally, Ali.

Sunnis are the majority across the Islamic world. In the Middle East, Shiites have strong majorities in Iran, Iraq and Bahrain, with significant communities in Lebanon, Yemen, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other parts of the Gulf.

Both consider the Quran the word of God. But theology and religious practice distinguish between the two sects.

Some differences are minor: Shiites pray with their hands by their sides, Sunnis with their hands crossed at their chest or stomach.

Others are significant. Shiites, for example, believe Ali and a string of his descendants, the Imams, had not only rightful political authority after Muhammad but also held a special religious wisdom. Most Shiites believe there were 12 Imams — many of them "martyred" by Sunnis — and the 12th vanished, to one day return and restore justice.

Sunnis accuse the Shiites of elevating Ali to the level of Muhammad himself — incorrectly, since Shiites agree that Muhammad was the last of the prophets, a central tenet of Islam.

The bitter disputes of early Islam still resonate. Even secular-minded Shiite parents would never name their child after the resented Abu Bakr, Omar or Othman — or Aisha, a wife of Muhammad who helped raise a revolt against Ali during his Caliphate.

When outgoing Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad visited Egypt last year, the sheik of Al-Azhar, the bastion of Sunni theology, told him sharply that if the sects are to get along, Shiites must stop "insulting" the "companions of the prophet."

Still, only the most hard-core translate those differences into hatred. But events in Iraq over the past decade show how politics can cause long-simmering tensions to spike.

The U.S.-led invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein's Sunni-dominated regime in 2003 propelled long-oppressed majority Shiites to power. Sunnis feared the repression would flip onto them. The result was vicious sectarian fighting that lasted until 2008: Sunni insurgents pulled Shiite pilgrims from buses and gunned them down; Shiite militiamen kidnapped Sunnis, dumping their tortured bodies on the streets and in rivers.

The bloodshed ebbed after the so-called U.S. surge, a revolt by moderate Sunnis against al-Qaida in Iraq and a Shiite militia cease-fire. But violence has again increased as minority Sunnis feel disenfranchised by the Shiite-led government and Sunni extremists have been emboldened by the successes of Islamic militants in the civil war next door in Syria.

If oil was not there, you are right we would let them kill each other.

 

[MustBeGood]

It was a inside job between the Bush administration and Saudi Arabia Secret Services actually.

Saudi arabia is about lies, hypocrisy and manipulation such as the american administration.

Yep two face.

 

[Philbert]

[...]911 (which was a inside job helped by the Israel Secret Service to get us involved in their racist policy with the Palestinians [...]

It was a inside job between the Bush administration and Saudi Arabia Secret Services actually.

Saudi arabia is about lies, hypocrisy and manipulation such as the american administration.

:tinhat: :tinhat:

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Just watched the Iraqi military doing something similar to synchronized swimming swaggering and parading around the street showing off national pride really telling the Jihadis What's-What. This'll be some squash match.

Tell 'em all about it, Lance Russell...