Kobe Bryant or Michael Jordan?
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Legzman
what the fuck you lookin at?
I share his initials :tongue:
SBTNW
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This thread should just be deleted! No contest, MJ is the best of all time.
compare Kobe to Michael? ridiculous.
i don't know why 3 people vote for Kobe... they're nuts or know nothing about basketball.
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
Jordan was a great player for sure. But, what about Wilt Chamberlain?
Chamberlain's 100-point game, a feat Jordan never accomplished.
Chamberlain was such a dominant scorer that his feat was mostly taken for granted.
Wilton Norman "Wilt" Chamberlain
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Chamberlain's 100-point game, a feat Jordan never accomplished.
Chamberlain was such a dominant scorer that his feat was mostly taken for granted.
Wilton Norman "Wilt" Chamberlain
NBA.com
SBTNW
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this thread is about Kobe and Michael, Will.
now, let's talk about all-time greatest. here:
http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?t=201715
SBTNW
Banned
is he? let's see:
The numbers speak for themselves... (stats through 07-08 season)
Career Scoring Average
*Michael Jordan - 30.12
Kobe Bryant - 24.96
Highest Steals (season)
*Michael Jordan - 3.2
Kobe Bryant - 2.2
Career Blocks Per Game
*Michael Jordan - 0.83
Kobe Bryant - 0.58
Highest Blocks (season)
*Michael Jordan - 1.6
Kobe Bryant - 1.0
Career Turnovers Per Game
*Michael Jordan - 2.73
Kobe Bryant - 2.94
Career Turnovers Per 40 Minutes
*Michael Jordan - 2.85
Kobe Bryant - 3.22
Lowest Turnovers Per 40 Minutes (season)
*Michael Jordan - 2.1
Kobe Bryant - 2.8
Highest Turnovers Per Game (season)
*Michael Jordan - 3.5
Kobe Bryant - 4.1
Career Assist-to-Turnover Ratio
*Michael Jordan - 1.93
Kobe Bryant - 1.57
Highest Assist-to-Turnover (season)
*Michael Jordan - 2.57
Kobe Bryant - 1.96
Career Field Goal Percentage
*Michael Jordan - .497
Kobe Bryant - .453
Highest Field Goal Pct. (season)
*Michael Jordan - .539
Kobe Bryant - .469
Percentage of 50+ point games against teams with winning records
Michael Jordan: 71%
Kobe Bryant: 35%
Record in games with 30+ shot attempts
Michael Jordan: 72-57 (.558)
Kobe Bryant: 33-43 (.434)
Percentage of points scored on two point field goals
Michael Jordan: 72%
Kobe Bryant: 59%
PER: Player Efficiency Rating is a formula that uses a player’s stats to determine how productive
and efficient he is in his time on the court. If he shoots the ball frequently, but does not
convert on as many of his shots, his rating goes down. If he turns the ball over frequently,
his rating goes down. If he is efficient and contributes an all-around performance, his rating
goes up. Due to factors such as lower shooting percentages, it is almost impossible for a guard
to have a very high career PER (such as above 25)
Career PER
Michael Jordan: 27.91
Kobe Bryant: 23.57
Highest PER season
Michael Jordan: 31.71
Kobe Bryant: 27.97
Seasons with 30+ PER
Michael Jordan: 4
Kobe Bryant: 0
Seasons with 28+ PER
Michael Jordan: 7
Kobe Bryant: 0
Seasons with 25+ PER
Michael Jordan: 12
Kobe Bryant: 3
Michael Jordan-------------------------Kobe Bryant
6(in 6 Finals)-----NBA championships-----3(in 4 Finals)
6----------------NBA Finals MVPs---------0
5----------------Season MVPs-------------1
1----------Defensive Player of the Year-----0
10---------------All-NBA First Team---------5
9-------------All-Defensive First Team------5
Yes-----------Rookie of the Year------------No
Yes-----------All-Rookie First Team---------No
14---------------All-Star--------------------10
3-----------------All-Star Game MVPs----------2
10-------------SCORING TITLES---------------2
3------------------Steals Titles--------------0
1-----------Top 10 in League in Assists------0
61----------NBA records held alone---------0
69--------NBA records held(may be shared)--------5
1-----Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year-----0
2-------------Olympic Gold Medals---------------0
Michael Jordan is #1 all-time in points per game and #3 all-time in points.
Kobe Bryant is not in the top 10 all-time in points per game.
Michael Jordan is #34 all-time in assists and #74 all-time in assists per game.
Kobe Bryant is not in the top 100! all-time in assists per game.
Michael Jordan is #3 all-time in rebounds and rebounds per game by a guard (behind Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson).
Kobe Bryant is not remotely close.
Michael Jordan is #2 all-time in steals and #4 all-time in steals per game.
Kobe Bryant is not in the top 50 all-time in steals per game.
Michael Jordan is #1 all-time in blocks and blocks per game by a guard.
Kobe Bryant is not remotely close.
That is a one off game, Jordan is the greatest, easily, look at the stats.
StormRuller
Nikki Benz: Simply the best #1!!
MJ... no doubt about it!
this guy knows what hes talking about...i love kobe, but come on
can you really even say that kobe is better than jordan in most aspects of the game?
kobe has a better 3, and he has a better all-around jumpshot, but barely
thats it, MJ is better in every other aspect of the game, and this is coming from someone who rooted against MJ all the time
Well heres something you should have thought about, Kobe is only 29, he has another great 5 years where he will be in his prime. And 3 records that Kobe hold are youngest player to reach 15,000 points and 20,000 points both faster than jordan, also he was the youngest to be named on the all defensive team in 99-00
SBTNW
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and you REALLY think that those achievements are enough?
also, yeah, he's 29, got 5 more years... do you REALLY think that, in 5 years, he's gonna achieve everything michael did? or more?
Certain things yes and certain things no, championships i think he will have more than michael, wont have more mvp or finals mvp. kobe will have more all star appearances. he will have more points than him. just some things off the top of my mind. I said he has another great 5 years, but he will probably play for another 10 years so take into consideration that for the next 5 years he will be the best player in the league still. and even after his prime, kobe will still be one of the top players in the league and still put up all star numbers, wont be the best in the league but will definately be one of the top players. and yes i do think those are records, mainly because its a career milestone, and hes the yougest to do it to date.
