Kobe Bryant or Michael Jordan?

Who's the better player, Kobe or Michael

  • Kobe Bryant

    Votes: 11 8.3%
  • Michael Jordan

    Votes: 121 91.7%

  • Total voters
    132
Shaquille O'Neal would never have won a single title if it weren't for Kobe and a slew of sharpshooters standing on the perimeter, waiting for Shaq to pass them the ball. Phil Jackson's no dummy. He did the same thing with his Bulls teams. There was Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen (highly undervalued) and a bunch of ace shooters that MJ could dish to at any time. That's not to mention the rebound machine in Dennis Rodman prowling under the basket for all of the 'no dominant center' arguers.

The years that the Lakers won three in a row, their Playoff formula was always the same. Shaq dominated in the Finals first, because he was and is a monster and secondly because there weren't any good big men to guard him. The less heralded story, since most casual watchers tune in primarily for the Finals, was how much Kobe dismantled, practically single handedly at times, teams in the first three rounds of the playoffs.

Kobe and MJ's (Bulls) careers took opposite trajectories. Jordan was a scoring machine with a bunch of mediocre players early in his career. He didn't win until Phil Jackson arrived with a better system and better players, lead by the young Scottie Pippen. Kobe developed for a couple of years, then Phil Jackson came and taught an already stacked team how to play to win. Kobe won his championships early and now is a scoring machine on a mediocre team (Phil or no Phil). Besides the Lakers first Championship run, Shaq's best career year, Kobe Bryant carried those teams in Shaq's oft injured absence during the regular season. Lets not forget also a couple of seasons back when Kobe scored 40+ points in nine straight games sans Shaq, the year they were defeated by the Pistons in the Finals. Simply put, since Shaq was the more amiable player people always say that he carried Kobe. However, make no mistake, no Kobe, no rings and Shaq knows that.

My basic point is, notice how many "Heir to the Throne" players, Kobe among them, have come along in Jordan's wake. The only player who keeps coming up in that argument is Kobe. Leave his likability, etc. aside and there is no denying that, dare I say, Kobe Bryant can be mentioned in the same breath as Michael Jordan. Is he a better player than MJ? I'll leave that until Kobe's career is over. He, Kobe, is just now entering into his athletic prime. He may never have that other 'great player' again to help shoulder some of the load. If, for arguments sake, he did and won another championship or two, then you would see the argument split right down the middle. So, is Kobe greater? We'll see... but he's definetly breathing down MJ's neck.
 
Kobe is an amazing scorer, but he's as one dimensional as they come. He is, by far, the most selfish player in the history of the NBA. He was heaving up shots in triple coverage. He is a piece of shit.
 
Ohhhhhhhhhh snap, AH, please don't get me started.

*turns RANT switch to ON*

Let me start off by saying that I like Kobe, I'm all for him. I think Mamba is a great nickname, and I think Bryant is a great player. Besides LeBron(of course)I would go as far as to say that Kobe is my favourite player.

He, however, CANNOT be mentioned in the same breath as MJ. Nobody can. The closest players, in my mind, to competing for that title as G.O.A.T.(believe me, it isn't much of a competition) are: Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson.

Michael Jordan was the anchor for an entire league. He dominating the NBA and, let's not forget the fact that he spent two years which could be considered his "prime" off attempting to player another type of "ball". It is in my opinion that if Jordan would've played those two seasons in the early 90's, he would have two more rings on his fingers and two more MVP's on his mantle.

There was nothing Jordan couldn't do. You ask him to D up, and he wins the Defensive Player of the Year. You ask him to score, and he averages the 2nd highest points per game in league history. More importantly, you ask him to win and he gave Chicago 6 parades.

Kobe Bryant cannot, will not, despite his best efforts, win a championship as long as he is a Laker. I would consider making the playoffs a huge success for this team, considered Bean is the 1st, 2nd and 3rd offensive option.

Plus, why aren't we talking about King James! This guy has MJ written all over him. He has the talent, skill and an increasingly solid team to do some great things. I believe that when LeBron retires, HE will be known as the greatest ever. Just as the torch passed from Dr. J to Michael, so it must pass yet again.

*turns RANT switch to OFF, sighs*
 
Buzzboy said:
I don't care how good of a player he is. That rapist shouldn't play baskerball.

You don't know if he really raped her so don't call him a rapist and no one ask u if u care how good of a player he is the question was who do u think is better Mj of Kobe
 
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Incentive said:
Kobe Bryant, He has definately proved it now

Are you joking? The simple thought of people actually believing Kobe Bryant is a better player than Michael Jordan just perplexes me. Care to explain?:dunno:
 
Black Star said:
Are you joking? The simple thought of people actually believing Kobe Bryant is a better player than Michael Jordan just perplexes me. Care to explain?:dunno:

Exactly, all Kobe proved is that he is the most selfish and greedy player in NBA history. He's a black hole, once the ball touches his hands, the only way he's going to give it up is when he shoots it.
 
Since were talking about shooting guards...and im guessing all around player the nod goes to Jordan....anyone who doubts this will be suprised in a few years to find out how wrong they are.
Im not sure why Wilt Chamberlain got brought up in this conversation but he was the most dominent player in nba history ever.
He would have made Shaq his lille B**ch.
Wilt was strong.fast.agile and could actually shoot the ball and play defense.
After having boned 3 broads and drank a fifth the night before...and the night before that.

Getting on To Lebron...since im from Ohio and have watched this kid grow up id have to say he is unless the Cavs screw him over,similar to how Detroit screwed over barry sanders(another of the greatest,IMO) going to be easily one of the greatest.
He doesnt improve season by season its game to game.
I hope to god they build a team behind him or give him a situation like jordan had in chicago where it was built around him to give him a couple rings....we will see.

Kobe is good....but not great
Would love to see him and Jordan against each other in eachothers prime......Kobe would be one frustrated lil boy
Jordan could d-up and made everyone in the NBA he faced miserable to the point of taking a swing at him

ok im done
 
Jordan is a living legend. Kobe also are big player but in my opinion he's not so good as MJ he's history. He is the KING of basketball, maby somebody who can be like him is LeBron that's guy who knows how to play..
 
Kobe is better. He will never be looked at, as the better player unless he wins 3 more championships. Kobe has no one on his team. Jordan had Pippen on all 6 championship's. Jordan would have never won six championships without a player that could do the dirty work. First there was Horace Grant, then Dennis Rodman. You put Pippen, Grant or Rodman with Kobe and you have a championship team. People don't realize the importance of Grant and Rodman. Pippen never could handle being the top banana and was the perfect fit for Jordan. Kobe would be the same in that type of situation.

What did Jordan win without Pippen Grant and Rodman!!!!

King James is more of a Magic Johnson clone not Michael Jordan. King James didn't even show up for the NBA Finals this year!
 
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Legzman

what the fuck you lookin at?
Um I'd have to see kobe play MJ one-on-one if MJ was still prime to know for sure. But as luck would have it, I don't give a fuck!
 
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