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Is internet porn equal to cheating on your girlfreind?
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You opened that door, so here's your analogy ...
E.g., if someone is going to kill you, then ending their life before that may be justified as "self defense."
Calling "porn" absolute as "cheating" is like calling "killing" absolute as "murder." Yes, some "porn" is "cheating," just like some "killing" is "murder."
In the case of killing someone, you defend yourself, and a jury of your peers decides if that is true or not. In the case of a relationship, you and partner decide -- either unianimously, or one has the option to end the value arrangement.
Don't open the door with an assumption if you can't handle the depth.
"Murder" is a value judgement, based on kending someone's life pre-maturely -- "killing someone." It too is not an absolute value.They aren't? :dunno:
So, murder is not wrong if I say it's not?
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E.g., if someone is going to kill you, then ending their life before that may be justified as "self defense."
Calling "porn" absolute as "cheating" is like calling "killing" absolute as "murder." Yes, some "porn" is "cheating," just like some "killing" is "murder."
In the case of killing someone, you defend yourself, and a jury of your peers decides if that is true or not. In the case of a relationship, you and partner decide -- either unianimously, or one has the option to end the value arrangement.
Don't open the door with an assumption if you can't handle the depth.
Will E Worm
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That's what you said. So, any murder would be just fine by that statement.
Say what you mean, mean what you say. :tongue:
Again ... "value" v. "fact" ("murder" is value, "killing" is fact)
But if a jury does not see things your way and says you're "wrong" and convicts you of "murder," You Might wanna wake up to the fact that your "killing" was "murder" and "wrong." You're removed from society whether you "get it" or not.
Same deal on the discussion with your partner. If your partner does not see if your way, and says you're "wrong," then you've got two choices -- either give in or be removed from the relationship whether you "get it" or not.
That's why I said, values are relative.
If you can prove that your "killing" was "self-defense," then "they get it." If you can prove that your looking at porn is not wrong to your partner, "they get it." Every case has its plea, every view has its right, but in the end, it's all about what people are willing or not willing to agree with you and meet you on your values.
"Murder" is a value judgement. Someone being "killed" is factual. You keep missing that.
"Cheating" is a value judgement. "Looking at porn" is factual. Use the same "value" v. "fact".
Don't you remember those SAT questions? E.g., A : B as C : D ? You keep comparing A (value) to D (fact) and B (fact) to C (value), when you can only compare A (value) to C (value) and B (fact) to D (fact).
Maybe I'm just too logical for some people here?
Like I said, there is no absolute "right/wrong."
But if a jury does not see things your way and says you're "wrong" and convicts you of "murder," You Might wanna wake up to the fact that your "killing" was "murder" and "wrong." You're removed from society whether you "get it" or not.
Same deal on the discussion with your partner. If your partner does not see if your way, and says you're "wrong," then you've got two choices -- either give in or be removed from the relationship whether you "get it" or not.
That's why I said, values are relative.
If you can prove that your "killing" was "self-defense," then "they get it." If you can prove that your looking at porn is not wrong to your partner, "they get it." Every case has its plea, every view has its right, but in the end, it's all about what people are willing or not willing to agree with you and meet you on your values.
"Murder" is a value judgement. Someone being "killed" is factual. You keep missing that.
"Cheating" is a value judgement. "Looking at porn" is factual. Use the same "value" v. "fact".
Don't you remember those SAT questions? E.g., A : B as C : D ? You keep comparing A (value) to D (fact) and B (fact) to C (value), when you can only compare A (value) to C (value) and B (fact) to D (fact).
Maybe I'm just too logical for some people here?
Will E Worm
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You said there is no such thing as "right/wrong".
So, it wouldn't matter what a court said then. :tongue:
That's not "logic" that is anarchy.
There are reasons why laws are put into place.
So, there is a right and a wrong.
So, it wouldn't matter what a court said then. :tongue:
That's not "logic" that is anarchy.
There are reasons why laws are put into place.
So, there is a right and a wrong.
But they don't call you a "murder" until you're convicted ...
When you "kill" someone, it's not absolutely "murder."
Again, the "kill" is the fact. The "murder" is the value judgement.
When someone "looks at porn," it's not absolutely "cheating."
Again, "looks at porn" is the fact. The "cheating" is the value judgement.
You're doing the same thing his girlfriend did.
I'm not saying it wasn't a "murder" any more than a "cheat."
I'm saying that both of those are "value judgements."
That's why they don't call you a "murder" until you're convicted.
A "kill" is not a judgement, so there is not established "right/wrong."
Same deal with "looking at porn," no judgement, so there is not an established "right/wrong" yet.
In fact, part of the problem is that people want to always "blame," when in reality, it's not really about "blame" but compatibility, prosperity, even society.
To immediately jump to "murder" without the process is the same as "cheating" in this context.
After discussions, if he and his partner agree it is "cheating," then it is.
Or if they cannot reach a consensus, then both must decide what it "means" to them.
Same deal with a trial -- it's not always unanimous, and some people say "murder" while others say "not."
The results may disagree with various values, just like cheating.
Whether you're removing someone from society, or not, just like a relationship, or not.
It doesn't have to be mutual or unanimous.
That's why there's no absolute "right/wrong," only what others say you are and what their [collective] will does as a result.
People often walk away in disagreement, even if the results state that it ended up being "unfavorable" in the end.
If you still don't see my point, then either A) you never will, or B) are just being argumentative and don't want to see my point at all.
In the case of B, I honestly hope you have a relationship that lasts, because absolute "right/wrong" doesn't work for relationships any more than society.
That's why we have a trial by jury of peers, not a panel of experts -- and higher courts of experts can only over-rule based on legal review, not judgement on the original case itself (including if and when they sent it back to the lower court).
Obviously you're having a serious issue with the logic here.
When you "kill" someone, it's not absolutely "murder."
Again, the "kill" is the fact. The "murder" is the value judgement.
When someone "looks at porn," it's not absolutely "cheating."
Again, "looks at porn" is the fact. The "cheating" is the value judgement.
You're doing the same thing his girlfriend did.
I'm not saying it wasn't a "murder" any more than a "cheat."
I'm saying that both of those are "value judgements."
That's why they don't call you a "murder" until you're convicted.
A "kill" is not a judgement, so there is not established "right/wrong."
Same deal with "looking at porn," no judgement, so there is not an established "right/wrong" yet.
In fact, part of the problem is that people want to always "blame," when in reality, it's not really about "blame" but compatibility, prosperity, even society.
To immediately jump to "murder" without the process is the same as "cheating" in this context.
After discussions, if he and his partner agree it is "cheating," then it is.
Or if they cannot reach a consensus, then both must decide what it "means" to them.
Same deal with a trial -- it's not always unanimous, and some people say "murder" while others say "not."
The results may disagree with various values, just like cheating.
Whether you're removing someone from society, or not, just like a relationship, or not.
It doesn't have to be mutual or unanimous.
That's why there's no absolute "right/wrong," only what others say you are and what their [collective] will does as a result.
People often walk away in disagreement, even if the results state that it ended up being "unfavorable" in the end.
If you still don't see my point, then either A) you never will, or B) are just being argumentative and don't want to see my point at all.
In the case of B, I honestly hope you have a relationship that lasts, because absolute "right/wrong" doesn't work for relationships any more than society.
That's why we have a trial by jury of peers, not a panel of experts -- and higher courts of experts can only over-rule based on legal review, not judgement on the original case itself (including if and when they sent it back to the lower court).
what u said
A mass murder is worse than a murder, so an one-time murder should get off ... right?
That will probably work as well for him as a man on trial for murder presenting a defense by pointing to a "mass murder" as "worse than me."
Did I mention that whole "relative" thing before?
It's about a couple deciding what's important to them and what they are willing to do deal with, as a couple. He has ever "right" to do what makes him happy as much as she has every "right" to demand he not do anything that hurts her feelings.
Where do you find common ground in such a conflict?
And yet she's not. What does that mean?
So what you're saying here is that he should point to guys like yourself?
That will probably work as well for him as a man on trial for murder presenting a defense by pointing to a "mass murder" as "worse than me."
Did I mention that whole "relative" thing before?
Or maybe it's not about all that.
It's about a couple deciding what's important to them and what they are willing to do deal with, as a couple. He has ever "right" to do what makes him happy as much as she has every "right" to demand he not do anything that hurts her feelings.
Where do you find common ground in such a conflict?
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
Re: But they don't call you a "murder" until you're convicted ...
I agree you are. :tongue:
I agree you are. :tongue:
Its a good topic
masturbating to pics or videos online can be seen in a few ways
I dont think its the same as going with another woman but it will spark up doubts in my head
why is he masturbating to pics and videos am I not good enough
what women on the net are turning him on am I to beg or to small for him
theres all sorts off things that would go through my head but the most important would be
why does he do it if he already has me ??
Secret
masturbating to pics or videos online can be seen in a few ways
I dont think its the same as going with another woman but it will spark up doubts in my head
why is he masturbating to pics and videos am I not good enough
what women on the net are turning him on am I to beg or to small for him
theres all sorts off things that would go through my head but the most important would be
why does he do it if he already has me ??
Secret
I think I have said this before, but the moral of the story is to have this sort of stuff worked out between each other before any relationship become serious and know what to expect. It might seem embarrassing, but it's probably better than having to face it at a later point when it's beyond the point of no return.
First of all cheating is actualy being with another person. Second, how can you judge a human being for wanting to enjoy some variety, especially when it's NOT CHEATING. It's a true test of if you're insecure or if you just realize that you can't have all the bodies, faces, ect of his type of woman. Lastly, he's with you so get over it and if you feel you're not good enough and want all the attention, leave. Ofcourse this goes for same sex couples and men that find their women looking at men on the net and have a problem with it.
My gf knew from the beginning I had a stack of dirty mags in my closet. I was up front with her. With that said, if you have made a comitment as in a marriage vow, I think to a certain extent it is cheating.
watching porn is a mans birthright.
My wife prefers i watch porn rather then cheating on her. She's awesome. She even let's me call her pornstar names sometimes. She says, " Hey as long as you are really fucking me, I don't care"
So you gave her a choice?
"Hey The Wife, either I watch porn or I cheat on you. The choice is yours!"
So you gave her a choice?
"Hey The Wife, either I watch porn or I cheat on you. The choice is yours!"
I think women take porn ok. but they ar not as easy as shit with real cheating.
I do not fall into this equation go figure right. The reason being is that I have no one to cheat on nor watch internet porn behind their back. Sometimes while watching internet I like to imagine having a girlfriend or wife giving me the repremand or at least taking notes while I watch said internet porn. Yep a sad life I live, could be worse I could be the elephant man and wear a burlap bag over my head.
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