Is Brodeur The Best Ever?

[Jagger69]

New Jersey Devils' goalie Martin Brodeur just won the 552nd game of his career....more than any other goalie in NHL history. At age 37, he's obviously not finished either. Does this stat qualify him as the greatest NHL goaltender ever?

http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/03/18/sports/HOCKEY.php

It's strictly my opinion but I say Patrick Roy has no peer although certainly Brodeur deserves tremendous accolades for his accomplishment. However, regular-season wins don't mean a lot come playoff time, do they?

Here's my top (5) of all time:

1) Patrick Roy
2) Jacques Plante
3) Terry Sawchuk
4) Martin Brodeur
5) Glenn Hall

 

[PlasmaTwa2]

I definitely think Brodeur is the best ever. Having him on your team mean you can win any game you play. Roy is a great player, but at times he seemed to let all the hype go to his head. He's done some stupid things. They are evenly matched skill wise, but I give Brodeur the nod because he is a better sportsman.

And I think your list is missing Tretiak. That man was a fucking wall.

 

[broderic_randal]

martin brodeur has the most regular season wins as a goalie, but that doesnt mean he is the best gaolie of all time

to make you the best goalie, you need to be the goalie that has stopped the most shots, or had the most shut outs

 

[Jagger69]

And I think your list is missing Tretiak. That man was a fucking wall.

The question was about NHL goalies so Tretiak doesn't qualify. I agree he was incredible but we'll never know how he may have done in the NHL.

martin brodeur has the most regular season wins as a goalie, but that doesnt mean he is the best gaolie of all time

to make you the best goalie, you need to be the goalie that has stopped the most shots, or had the most shut outs

I usually think of a question like this in terms of "If I had one NHL game that I absolutely had to win, who would I want as my goalie?". After considering it, Patrick Roy is my answer. He was the greatest clutch goaltender ever....always came up big when he had to.

 

[ChefChiTown]

I don't follow hockey, but since the Devils played the Blackhawks last night, Martin Brodeur's record-breaking game was all over the news. From what I heard, he is probably the best ever. He has the most wins, an amazing winning percentage, the 2nd most playoff wins (I think) and 3 Stanley Cups. And, he broke the record for wins in 50 or so fewer games than it took Roy to reach the same number of victories.

And, since I'm posting in a hockey-related thread, I am convinced that I'm still drunk from last night.

 

[broderic_randal]

I usually think of a question like this in terms of "If I had one NHL game that I absolutely had to win, who would I want as my goalie?". After considering it, Patrick Roy is my answer. He was the greatest clutch goaltender ever....always came up big when he had to.

roberto luongo

 

[PlasmaTwa2]

The question was about NHL goalies so Tretiak doesn't qualify. I agree he was incredible but we'll never know how he may have done in the NHL.

Well, he did play against NHL teams...

It might not be in the NHL, but Roy and Brodeur both competed for Canada at the Olympics. In 98, Roy demanded to play every game, and Canada got fourth (Though I attribute that to the fact our coach didn't put Wayne Bloody Gretzky in the last shootout). In 02, Brodeur played in all but one of our games and he lead us to the gold medal. And while Brodeur was Roy's backup in 98, Roy wasn't even on the team in 02.

 

[TunnelOfLove]

I don't have any "old-time" goalies on my list because I haven't seen them in action.

1. Martin Brodeur
2. Patrick Roy
3. Dominik Hasek
4. Roberto Luongo
5. Ed Belfour

 

[Jagger69]

Well, he did play against NHL teams...

It might not be in the NHL, but Roy and Brodeur both competed for Canada at the Olympics. In 98, Roy demanded to play every game, and Canada got fourth (Though I attribute that to the fact our coach didn't put Wayne Bloody Gretzky in the last shootout). In 02, Brodeur played in all but one of our games and he lead us to the gold medal. And while Brodeur was Roy's backup in 98, Roy wasn't even on the team in 02.

Again....I'm not talking about exhibition games or the Olympics. The question refers specifically to NHL goalies.

roberto luongo

Of all time? Wow....no disrespect meant to Luongo (a terrific netminder) but how many Stanley Cup winners has he played for?

 

[warman2442]

yes he is NJ for life baby

 

[PlasmaTwa2]

Again....I'm not talking about exhibition games or the Olympics. The question refers specifically to NHL goalies.

I know, just pointing that out.

And I can't believe I didn't bring him up earlier, but Ken Dryden certainly can be considered one of the greats. Six Stanley Cup wins in eight years with Montreal, won the Conn Smythe trophy, Calder trophy and the Vezina trophy (five times). Doesn't have anywhere near the victories and shutouts of Brodeur, but his 2.24 GAA and .790 winning percentage speaks for itself. :glugglug:

 

[Jagger69]

I know, just pointing that out.

And I can't believe I didn't bring him up earlier, but Ken Dryden certainly can be considered one of the greats. Six Stanley Cup wins in eight years with Montreal, won the Conn Smythe trophy, Calder trophy and the Vezina trophy (five times). Doesn't have anywhere near the victories and shutouts of Brodeur, but his 2.24 GAA and .790 winning percentage speaks for itself. :glugglug:

No question Dryden has to be right up there. Plus, he retired young....no telling where he might have ended up had he played on. There are a number of really great goalies I left off my top 5, including Dryden. Good catch, PT2!

:glugglug:

 

[E-Ann-Hilden]

Nice article about Marty!

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1153059/index.htm

 

[Namreg]

not a huge hockey fan, but i don't think that you can judge his greatness by how many games he has won. how many has he played? 5000? if so, then he sucks...

now i know he hasn't played 5000, but i recently read a newspaper article comparing him to roy and dominik hasek, and roy's and hasek's save percentages were higher. roy and hasek also had worse teams (except for the colorado-roy), so they always had more work to do. the devils defense makes sure that their opponents never fire many shots at their goal (below NHL average in every season that brodeur has played there).

good? yes, evidently. the greatest? i don't think so. keep in mind though, i'm not a huge hockey fan, so could be wrong; but think roy is better.

 

[ArabJames]

its Patrick Roy

he still had a boatload of wins and a low career GAA
and he enjoyed more playoff success than any other goalie....and thats where it counts

 

[STDiva]

New Jersey Devils' goalie Martin Brodeur just won the 552nd game of his career....more than any other goalie in NHL history. At age 37, he's obviously not finished either. Does this stat qualify him as the greatest NHL goaltender ever?

http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/03/18/sports/HOCKEY.php

It's strictly my opinion but I say Patrick Roy has no peer although certainly Brodeur deserves tremendous accolades for his accomplishment. However, regular-season wins don't mean a lot come playoff time, do they?

Here's my top (5) of all time:

1) Patrick Roy
2) Jacques Plante
3) Terry Sawchuk
4) Martin Brodeur
5) Glenn Hall

No they don't, but Brodeur has the 2nd most playoff wins and 3 Stanley Cups. I'd say his regular season success has translated to the playoffs pretty well. Oh, he also has 100 shutouts. And Brodeur doesn't whine and bitch when he gets lit up. I'd take Brodeur any day of the week.

 

[JustAGuy85]

I remember a friend of mine telling me Brodeur got caught cheating on his wife with her sister...and then he won the cup.

But all in all, Brodeur and Roy were amazing, Luongo is the best right now, and Dryden was clutch. So take you pick on the best all-time.

Luongo needs a team though. You put him in somewhere like Detroit and he'll have some cups.

 

[D-rock]

Brodeur has been a very good for a very long time, but I would still put Roy ahead of him. Roy peak years seemed more dominate and he still seems better overall, while Brodeur has padded the stats a little more. If somebody places a lot of emphasis on the players peek years and not just their whole career I could see how somebody could claim that Hasek is the best ever. There was a period of years where he practically made Buffalo win almost single-handedly.

 

[friendsofmine]

roberto luongo

if you believe that, then im voting for chris osgood



marty the best......maybe...no doubt he is great

 

[Baill Inneraora]

1. Patrick Roy
2. Steve Mason