Iraeli attacks justified?

What is your opinion of recent Israeli attacks on Palestine?

  • Attacks and deaths are perfectly justified

    Votes: 19 33.3%
  • Revenge has crossed the line into aggression

    Votes: 25 43.9%
  • More attacks are needed

    Votes: 8 14.0%
  • I don't care about either Israel or Palestine

    Votes: 5 8.8%

  • Total voters
    57
  • Poll closed .
Israeli rockets = Palestinian suicide bombers.

Well, i think both sides are guilty for the 60 year old problem. In recent, situation got screwed more.

Palestine people elected the party of Hamas (a globally listed terrorist organisation). Wtf were they thinking? Hamas does it better than Al-Fetih? Absolutely not, Arafat also failed in his life-long mission. Peace did not come and Hamas takes power. Hamas power on Palestine is the beginning of end for Palestine. Hamas fuckers also trained PKK fuckers to hit back Turkland (Turkey), they have killed 30,000 Turkish innocents including women, babies, sons, daughters and old people since 1984.

Look at Israel, superpower of Middle-East. They are pretty aggressive and ambitious. Ariel Sharon and people like him made Israel bad, failing policies made Israel absolutely more unwanted in Middle-East.

In this situation, Israel is guilty in killing civillians but Israel also warned Palestine and Hamas to stop bombing. Hamas is guilty for using innocents as shield. Palestine will end, even their religious brothers other Middle-Eastern countries do not care Palestine, Iran seems to be caring Palestine but only thing Iran wants is to wipe Israel away.

I support Israel to destroy Hamas and Hizbullah which are extremele dangerous for the rest of Middle-East. However, killing innocents is not acceptable. Hamas better stops using man-shield.
 
try thinking about it this way: what would usa do if canada fired rockets indiscriminately into buffalo, new york? the answer: work with their government to get that to stop. but what if their govt refuses to help? then usa goes to punitive sanctions, turning the screws until canada complies. and then if nothing? that's why i understand why israel considered their overwhelming response, but i don't think it will be effective in the long run.

i recommend more surgical strikes but just like iraq and afghanistan innocents will die due to opponents repulsive tactics. tough call. i would say israel has over-reacted in this case. as for equality, should they do the exact same thing Hamas is doing - rocket for rocket?
 
Lots of countries have diplomatic relations with Arab states. :dunno: Calling all Arabs terrorists, like what you are saying, is rather offensive. There are many Arab states, like the U.A.E. that have nothing to do with terrorists. And not to mention that Israel has a sizable Arab population itself. There are some Arab states that support terrorism, yes, but not all of them do, and certainly not every person of Arab ethnicity.

True words.:thumbsup:

And no attack is justified. War is stupid, unnecessary etc.
And as allways: innocent civilians are the true victims.
 
It's a holy war that has been going on. There is not a reason to justify the reasons at hand. Killing brings not even a little bit of justice. What has started as a debate now is a contraversy. There is not enough being done to stop this situation. All this talk about world peace when nobody is doing anything. It's out of my hands, and all I know is, you cannot control somebody who does not want to be contempt, or someone who thinks they should not be. What it will come down to is freedom. At all cost will things measure to be extravagant. Whos agrees? not the opposition. I don't want to make assumptions and question the where abouts of anyone, or anything. I just wish people could of let it been, but they will not ever let it be. The World is going to face yet another catrasphy. Independently or spread through all religions and races. There is only hope to give enlightenment to those in need. How must you stop a refugee on the verge of redering theirselves worthless? Desired to kill, threatened with nothing to lose. Not even a thought will subside to change their mind. Only vengence will overcome the madness. What will the world do?
 
Isreal controls the Gaza Strip and the Palestinians. They control almost everything that goes in. And this control forces the Palestinians into poverty (Isreali GDP per capita, $26,600. Palestinian, $1,100).
And now Isreal is preventing enough food in; according to the UN.
If your country was controlled by another country for a generation and now they were slowly starving you, what would you do?

And btw, apparently all the Palestinian rocket attacks that caused this massive Isreali bombing killed a total of 1 person. The Isreali retaliation killed over 200.

The Palestinians that rocket attack Isreal are very wrong to do it. But the Isreali bombing's are far worse.

About 200 times worse.
 
try thinking about it this way: what would usa do if canada fired rockets indiscriminately into buffalo, new york? the answer: work with their government to get that to stop. but what if their govt refuses to help? then usa goes to punitive sanctions, turning the screws until canada complies. and then if nothing? that's why i understand why israel considered their overwhelming response, but i don't think it will be effective in the long run.

I don't think this hypothetical analogy is very useful, since America and Canada have no history of hostilities. Neither the rockets nor the raids come out of a vacuum. For the analogy to be worthwhile, you'd also have to assume that America had been attacking Canada as well, that America had been occupying and building on Canadian territory for decades, and that the number of Canadians killed by Americans greatly outnumbered Americans killed by Canadians. Now, that's more accurate.
 

Facetious

Moderated
I can also imagine what it must be like to be a landlocked, throwback bastard child of the Arab world. I have great sorrow and compassion for the Palestinian people and it's sad to observe how they are essentially pawns in the game.

All things considered and generally speaking, the Israeli government could use a little better discretion at times as they retaliate. Don't blow up a car of 4 when you're only seeking 1 . . . that kinda thing.

Also When it comes time for U.S. to kick down monetary aid for the Palestianans, don't put it all in the hands of one ! Pass it out to all !
 

tartanterrier

Is somewhere outhere.
I think so because they are only defending themselves.I mean if somebody threw a grenade into my back yard with intent.Then I would certinly make them pay ;)

But this whole show will go on and on until the next century,and the one after.None of these sides will ever come to a compromise so why bother - let them get on with it I say :)
 
Basically, theres not reasons why, people have the right to bicker about what is going on or what should happen. When it is happening. Anyone can say I am doing this, but they are not walking in the shoes of the doing. A bunch of idiots rather you like it or not.
 

Philbert

Banned
Isreal controls the Gaza Strip and the Palestinians. They control almost everything that goes in. And this control forces the Palestinians into poverty (Isreali GDP per capita, $26,600. Palestinian, $1,100).
And now Isreal is preventing enough food in; according to the UN.
If your country was controlled by another country for a generation and now they were slowly starving you, what would you do?

And btw, apparently all the Palestinian rocket attacks that caused this massive Isreali bombing killed a total of 1 person. The Isreali retaliation killed over 200.

The Palestinians that rocket attack Isreal are very wrong to do it. But the Isreali bombing's are far worse.

About 200 times worse.

Could you please be a bit more naive?
I mean...actually keep a scorecard, and only trade casualties 1 for 1?
Really?
So...Hamas gets to decide when and where to kill an Israeli 11 year old, or Mom....then, according to your view of things, Israel can only take out 2 Hamas fighters unless Hamas kills a few more Dads and Moms, or maybe Grandma, little Avi , and Sis. Then Israel could blow up a few more rocket launchers but only if 3 Hamas fighters die, no more.
Now, if I was boss...shoot a rocket into my country, it's on. Whatever I decide to do to make shooting at my home or family too painful for my enemy to contemplate will be done...oh, look...that's what Israel is doing.
Wow...that should get some results.

When the population get really tired of Hamas bringing death and poverty to the Gaza Strip, they will take action to change things...not before.
 
So if a few of starving, repressed, angry, stupid terrorists shoot a few pathetic, homemade rockets into your country that kill one person then 'it's on' with their entire country? So you start dropping bombs in cities and kill children that don't even know what Hamas is?

Whatever Philbert.
 
When Israel retaliates just like facetious pointed out the Palestinians USE CIVILIANS, WOMEN AND CHILDREN too shield themselves!! they put all the women and children in the line of fire just too make Israel look unjustified in their attacks!!!

How does that work? hey look here comes a rocket, quick, everybody line up in front!

It's pretty simple, if a rocket hits an area with a civilian population, it's because those people were already there. It's not as if they called up everyone and told them that a rocket would be hitting their house next Tuesday, it kind of defeats the whole purpose of using long range strikes.

military (Hamas, or other terrorist) forces may be placed among civilian areas for the express purpose of trying to deter bombings, but how does that falsely portray Israel's motivations? They knew that they were hitting innocent people to get to their targets, but they didn't care.

You're right about one thing Philbert, having your family blown up is a pretty good way to get you to take action. So who do you think is going to be the next lot to line up and attack Isreal?

every conflict in the middle east (most everywhere else too) is a result of people that feel they are being threatened and that it's Ok to resort to using violence in retaliation that may or may not be justified.
 

Marlo Manson

Hello Sexy girl how your Toes doing?
How does that work? hey look here comes a rocket, quick, everybody line up in front!

It's pretty simple, if a rocket hits an area with a civilian population, it's because those people were already there. It's not as if they called up everyone and told them that a rocket would be hitting their house next Tuesday, it kind of defeats the whole purpose of using long range strikes.

military (Hamas, or other terrorist) forces may be placed among civilian areas for the express purpose of trying to deter bombings, but how does that falsely portray Israel's motivations? They knew that they were hitting innocent people to get to their targets, but they didn't care.

You're right about one thing Philbert, having your family blown up is a pretty good way to get you to take action. So who do you think is going to be the next lot to line up and attack Isreal?

every conflict in the middle east (most everywhere else too) is a result of people that feel they are being threatened and that it's Ok to resort to using violence in retaliation that may or may not be justified.

IMO Hamas, hezbolah, (the terrorists) and their weapons cache's weapons warehouses, along with high profile members of these regimes purposely cover themselves by being and blending into civilian area's so no matter what israel does they are the one to blame cuz they have better more destructive weaponary and war technology?

So your saying despite the palestinaian terrorists purposely and indiscriminately intending on killing as many jews as humaly possible, civilian or military they don't care!! just as long as their are DEAD JEWS they are satisfied!! so disregard hamas or hezbolahs cowardly suicide bombings in israel and the indiscreet missile attacks that are fired into israeli civilian neighborhoods by design?? sorry cal. their is a huge difference in intent and consequence!! :rolleyes::dunno: but be easy my friend!! have a great 2009!! :thumbsup::hatsoff:
 
IMO Hamas, hezbolah, (the terrorists) and their weapons cache's weapons warehouses, along with high profile members of these regimes purposely cover themselves by being and blending into civilian area's so no matter what israel does they are the one to blame cuz they have better more destructive weaponary and war technology?
They have virtually no choice.

The Gaza Strip has over 1.5 million people squeezed into 360 sq. kilometres. That's over 4,000 people per square kilometre.


Btw, death toll so far: Palestinians over 300 killed. Israel 1(?).

So much for eye for an eye.
 
Why are the Palestinians launching rockets into Israel from the Gaza strip? Oh, that's right ... Israel GAVE it to them as a gesture of peace. Yeah, that worked out well.

The Palestinians could work together to try to better their lives ... but they don't. It's better that they fill their lives full of hatred and try to kill as many Jews as possible.

Other Muslim countries could lift the Palestinians out of poverty with the stroke of a pen with 0.01% of their oil revenue ... but, nah ... better to leave them miserable and angry so they'll kill more Jews.

The Palestinian's number #1 source of aid used to be (and still is, I believe) the United States.

And yet they cheered in the streets on September 11, 2001.

Wish it was 2,000 dead Palestinians. They only live for death ... the sooner it comes to them, the better
 
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