how long before DVDs are outdated?

they're usually outdated when you can't get the cases open due to the lube residue that has stuck the sides of the case together
 

georges

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The blue ray dvds and dual face rw dvds are already an evolution of the dvd r and dvd rws, but I don't think they will stop to use them because the data must always be kept as spare on a disc and that is what dvds are made for.
 

BNF

Ex-SuperMod
not sure but Id hate to think I have to buy Braveheart again:1orglaugh

Getting you to buy Braveheart and your favorites again is part of the "upgrade" technology's point!

Whatever technology comes next, be it blue ray or whatever, it will take full advantage of HD quality. I also think that with the cost of storage consistently falling, that harddisk based storage will become more and more popular. Combine that with the fact that direct over the web distribution is far cheaper than retail DVDs (manufacturing, packaging, handling, distribution, retail sales points), and I think direct downloads will grow even more. (I haven't been in a record store in..... 6 years or more..)

georges has a good point - discs are practical because they are transportable, but who can say if you'll actually be buying movies on disc as opposed to only or mostly blank ones?!
 
Combine that with the fact that direct over the web distribution is far cheaper than retail DVDs (manufacturing, packaging, handling, distribution, retail sales points), and I think direct downloads will grow even more. (I haven't been in a record store in..... 6 years or more..)

my point exactly. the only times i go to record stores anymore is to sell my cd's and dvd's. i can burn them cheaper in the long run. with the internet, anything is available. you just have to know where to look. :)
 

om3ga

It's good to be the king...
Blu-Ray supporters:
20th Century Fox
Buena Vista Home Entertainment
Electronic Arts
MGM Studios
Paramount Pictures
Sony Pictures Entertainment
The Walt Disney Company
Vivendi Universal Games
Warner Bros.

HD-DVD Supporters:
Buena Vista Home Entertainment
New Line Cinema
Paramount Pictures
The Walt Disney Company
Universal Studios
Warner Bros
 

Torre82

Moderator \ Jannie
Staff member
Blank DVD Supporters:
The Pirate Bay Incorporated
DVD5-ISO Group, Limited
College OC Backbone Consultants
T-Reactor DOT net DOT org DOT com DOT G_D when will it all stop?!?

::chuckles at that parody::
 

dave_rhino

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Bill Gates has said they'll be history within five years as no one will waste time toting little discs around.

The thing is, i LIKE having them. It's like with MP3, sure if i wanna download a couple of songs just for my MP3 player thats cool, or just for a tester of a band i haven't heard, but i love owning CD's because it's just better.

Same with DVDs, if there is a really good movie which i really like, i wanna own the DVD and have it in my stack with the rest of them.

I don't want everything to be going onto my pc and just staying there, its boring.
 

om3ga

It's good to be the king...

Torre82

Moderator \ Jannie
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Same with DVDs, if there is a really good movie which i really like, i wanna own the DVD and have it in my stack with the rest of them.

I don't want everything to be going onto my pc and just staying there, its boring.

I hear that. Actually owning it, holding it in your hand.. is a better feeling than knowing it resides on your D drive, and it is ESPECIALLY better than the online thing. Watching Lost at www.abc.com on their episode player? Lame.

Watching Lost_S3E5_HDrip.avi after you burn it? Awesome. Dont hafta worry about data loss from a crash!
 

Phaeton

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What about flash cards? Disks are easily damaged, but a solid state memory stick is really quite strong, and there's almost no limit to the storage potential.

In ten years I bet media will be sold on a medium roughly the size of a dvd, but the actual data will be stored on a fingernail sized chip embedded in it. I don't think they will shrink storage medium smaller than UMD, just because people will lose it (I will).
 

Torre82

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What about flash cards? Disks are easily damaged, but a solid state memory stick is really quite strong, and there's almost no limit to the storage potential.

In ten years I bet media will be sold on a medium roughly the size of a dvd, but the actual data will be stored on a fingernail sized chip embedded in it. I don't think they will shrink storage medium smaller than UMD, just because people will lose it (I will).

Flash memory isnt dependable. You can only write it *so many times*, the transfer rate is absolute crap for heavy-duty needs and a mini-hard drive is about the same size if you compare price-per-gigabyte/meg.

If tracks on discs continue to get smaller, discs should never be taken out of a loader. (Remember way back when? Some drives required you to keep it in a special case and you put the whole thing into the drive?)

Well besides the thought that one day if a piece of lint gets in the way of a laser, you wont be able to read a few gigs behind it..heh, I wouldnt mind keeping it in a permanent case. A disc the size of an UMD, put it on a keychain and make it dependable rewritable or a portable HD platter.. sure! (provided its in a magnet-proof outer case!)

As for storage, only movies are really pushing the storage boundaries. Games dont really need CG movies with all the processing power, these days. Applications and operating systems can still fit on a single layer DVD with room to spare. (unless you use SuSE, lmao! How many clones of this program/package do you want, today?) All the ultra high quality pictures you could ever want would only take up a DVD or two. Zip 'em and call it a day. HD porn? Like someone said a while ago, it takes a movie production company to get it done right. HD porn is a ways off, and the everyday computer still cant handle half the HD stream through intel integrated graphics or low-end radeon's or GeForces.
 
Whatever they go to next maybe we will get lucky and they will make it backwards compatible with standard DVDs.

I was reading something about things like this a long time ago. I think it might have been for high definition televisions, but I'm not sure. It was about somebody theorizing that as technology progressed it would have a harder time drawing people to the top of the line high-end equipment. The thinking goes that in the past the leaps form one form of technology were relatively large, like black and white television to color television for example. This would be different than in the future where you would be paying just as much more money for the next new thing as before, but the increase in quality would be less notice each time. Sooner or later the thinking was that people would get to the point where they would no longer see the need to upgrade something for the miniscule benefit it would provide. You would be getting diminishing returns for what you had to spend for it. I think another example was video games where somebody asked that in the future after they got highly complex AI, physics engines, were each game could hold a large amount of information, and they had lifelike graphics would there be any need to go further than that even though the technology might someday allow it when people could no longer tell the difference with human perception alone.

This isn't to say I don't think people will move on to the new generation of DVD type equipment, because they probably will. I do agree with person that said that with each leap forward more and more people will be less inclined to go with it because it's benefits will be slowly diminished to normal people each time something new comes out.
 
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