I just hope they don't release new consoles for a while. I'm quite happy with the systems as they are and we're getting good games on a regular basis.
Has Microsoft lost your trust??
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I think they would struggle to release a meaningful 'next generation' at the moment. The economic downturn will have resulted in R&D cuts and I doubt they would be able to come up with a big enough leap to make it worthwhile. Sony in particular would be stupid to release another console when their PS3 is only just out of the loss making stage.
Pretty high in my opinion
Kaz Harai said that Sony is gonna incorporate a basic schematic for the next playstation similar to a PC or xbox360, rather than having a new supercomputer ala "cell processor" like they do for all their new console launches.
This will cut cost by alot and they aren't hiring a PC graphic card company to develop it like every console from ps1 to xbox360 did. Sony is gonna develop this in-house. That will cut cost by alot also. What they wanna do is, make sure that developers will be comfortable making games for ps4, unlike every playstation before it.
haha Thanks for the shout out STDiva.
As for the question I'll hold out probably a year and see how the failure rate is for the Xbox 720 or whatever. Unless Fable 4 or GTA 5/6 or Mass Effect 3 are launch titles which i highly doubt. But like Theburglar said, we all got good games now. So waiting for the people who have to have every single electronic device the day it comes out and watching if the xbox 720 is just like the 360, in terms of failure rate, wont be too hard.
As for the question I'll hold out probably a year and see how the failure rate is for the Xbox 720 or whatever. Unless Fable 4 or GTA 5/6 or Mass Effect 3 are launch titles which i highly doubt. But like Theburglar said, we all got good games now. So waiting for the people who have to have every single electronic device the day it comes out and watching if the xbox 720 is just like the 360, in terms of failure rate, wont be too hard.
There was no need to before the 360 because no console in history has been this complex. The original X-Box was like an extremely low end PC. When the 360 launched, it had the hardware complexity of a high level PC at the time, and even to date is still a rather high end computer.
still no excuse. Ps3 is 10 times more complex than 360 and its got the standard 5% failure rate of all past consoles.
I don't believe it to be an excuse. The failure rate of 360's was unacceptable, there's no question. But to say that has single-handedly caused people to question if their machine will fail is disingenuous. Anyone with an elementary understanding of computer hardware would understand the more complex you get, the more likely you are to have massive failure. The PS2 had around a 15% failure rate too, so this is not a new phenomenon. And for the record, the PS3 is not 10 times more complex than the 360, it features the exact same parts save for the CPU, which developers still can't figure out.
Ps2 at 15% and 360 at 51%....big difference there so it sounds like a new phenomenon to me. As a matter of fact, no company in history had to kiss everyones ass with a 3 year extended warranty because of their failure rate.
Ok so ps3 isn't much more complex than 360 right? But ps3 has a failure rate of 5% compared to 360's 51%. Devs figured it out enough for me. Games kick ass on that system and it don't break. My ps3 will be 3 years old this summer and it never gave me a prob once. Had that clock error, but it got fixed in 24hours and its been back to purring since.
The clock error did not get fixed. Sony closed their eyes and prayed that it would go away. They didn't do anything. It will happen again.
who told you that and why are you "guessing" it will happen again? lol
UPDATE (10:15 p.m. ET): From Sony: "We are aware that the internal clock functionality in the PS3 units other than the slim model, recognized the year 2010 as a leap year." That's right, all non-slim PS3s thought this year had 29 days in February. Because of that incorrect programming, they couldn't communicate properly with Sony's PSN servers.
Perhaps even more upsetting is that when Sony said "we hope to resolve this problem within the next 24 hours," they really were just waiting for the next day to come so that the issue would correct itself. Needless to say, we're not looking forward to PS3 gaming in February 2012, when the real leap year will be observed.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10461881-1.html
nice find,sweet. However, there's a difference between "waiting for the next day to come so it will correct itself" and "sitting there closing their eyes praying it will go away" like you stated. You twisted things there and got alittle dramatic, no?
As far as it happening again, the article writer is just full of speculation like your guess. Read it, he's speculating. It could happen again and it may not.
Yes it is a speculation, so what! There's a pretty big difference between "waiting for the system to correct itself" and actually fixing the issue!
I don't understand? They decided to wait for the day and see if it corrected itself cause it was an internal clock problem. It did indeed correct itself so they didn't need to take action. What seems to be the argument about what Sony did?:dunno:
This is all I know and need to know Mr. Warrior...During my time with 360 from launch day to a year ago, I had 3 RROD's and was on my 4th console when I finally sold it. My ps3 is gonna be 3 years old this summer and the only problem it ever had was with its internal clock, but that fixed itself in 24hours. Seems like an apples to oranges comparison in quality to me!? Now that you brought this info to my attention, I gotta say, this ps3 is cooler than I thought. It can even fix itself? SWEET!!!!!!
Aww that would be so gay if it had motion controls, they'd probably charge like 500 bucks for the damn thing too.
PS2 had failures. X-box 360 had failures. They are the exact same phenomenon, and that hasn't changed since the Commodore 64 days. By virtue of the fact that the 360 has more complex hardware than earlier systems, it was inherently more prone to fail. That concept is nothing new, and to label it as such is duplicitous on a level I can't even fathom. I understand the anger and frustration with what Microsoft did, but scapegoating them as "the first people to have system failure" is ludicrous.
Sony sat on their hands and didn't do a damn thing. The exact same error hit Zune players a couple of years ago, people were advised to do the same thing, and a patch to fix it was out within 48 hours.
Why does this matter you may ask? Let's say for example that you want to watch Netflix on your PS3. The PS3 hasn't been reprogrammed to fix the leap year bug, and stays one day off on the calender, and the movie you're watching is only offered by Netflix until the next day. Netflix allows you access, but your PS3 can't synch up authentication, and your console locks up. Another example, let's say the bug remains unfixed, and Sony releases a firmware update. As part of the authentication process of all of the major consoles, timestamps must match between Sony's servers and your PS3. The bug prevents this, and you lock up your system again, and more importantly, can't get access to the firmware update. The same situation could be true for DLC for a game, or almost any transaction on your PS3. It's a glaring bug that could in fact render anything Internet related outside of online play absolutely useless.
You've got to take the blinders off, bud. Certainly you may like one system more than another, but the bottom line is both systems have pluses and minuses, as do both companies, so outright labeling the 360 as the bad seed is just foolish.
