First zero-carbon city to rise out of the desert

Kudos to them for such a project.:thumbsup:
This is the kind of challenge the developed countries should focus on as well.And after working out the bugs offer to help everyone else with the technologies needed to try to reduce man made emmisions of greehouse gases.
 

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As if there's a plant life to worry about there. :sleep:

Carbon, Available Nitro & Phosphor . . . Plants Love it ! :lovecoupl

All in all it's justa • nutha Brick in the Woll

:rofl:
 

jedi007gotham

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Please i am not sure global warming is happening... look at recent NASA statistics... and a report just came out the other day that the earth is naturally cooling itself for the next 10-15 years so we will have no effect on it anyways. Even if the earth is going to warm, its a natural phenomenom, not man made..... remember, the climate used to be such that plants from warmer climates used to grow in new england about 300-400 years ago--- this is nothing more than an attempt for people like Al Gore to try to get into power

Man-Made Global Warming Hoax
Excerpts reprinted with permission from Tom Gremillion
Tuesday, January 25, 2005

Global warming is a hoax, invented in 1988, that combines old myths including limits to growth, sustainability, the population growth time bomb, the depletion of resources, pollution, anti-Americanism and anti-corporate sentiment and, of all things, fear of an ice age. Those that espoused and supported the old myths have joined forced into a new group called “Environmentalists.”

Most environmentalists have no technical or scientific credentials whatsoever. What they have are major news outlets ready and willing to publicize their every utterance regardless of whether or not they are backed up by scientific proof. Atmospheric science requires highly technical knowledge and skills, not possessed by the vast majority of the so-called environmentalists, who yet feel qualified to demand that human activity subjugate itself to the whims of their new deity, Mother Nature.

Environmentalists claim that the Earth’s atmosphere is getting hotter. They claim that the polar icecaps and glaciers will melt and sea levels will rise over two hundred feet, flooding most coastal cities. They claim that many areas of the Earth will turn into deserts. They make all these claims but cannot substantiate them with real scientific evidence. Parts of the polar icecap and glaciers are melting but other areas of the polar icecaps and glaciers are thickening. The environmentalists base their “proof” of the existence of global warming on the melting areas but are strangely silent, even militant to the point of violence, if anyone mentions the areas that are thickening, and those thickening areas are many.

In the past, there have been many times when the global mean temperatures were warmer, sometimes much warmer and colder, much colder than they are now. Global mean temperatures are cyclical with the seasons but also with other normal cycles, as they have been for the entire history of the Earth. Scientific data from ice cores, tree rings and other indicators of global mean temperatures prove this. Human activity has never been the cause of these global temperature swings as the “global warming” advocates claim. If human activity was the cause, where were the SUVs, the power plants and industries in our historical past? They did not exist. If human activity was not the cause of these global temperature swings, what was?

The energy output of the Sun is far greater in one second than human activity could produce in a million years. The Earth rotates around the Sun. Its orbit is slightly elliptical. The energy reaching the Earth from the Sun varies slightly as the distance from the Sun to the Earth varies due to its elliptical orbit. The Sun activity increases and decreases with fluctuations in the solar flares emitted by the Sun. Differences in these fluctuation rates cause increases and decreases of solar energy hitting the Earth. This causes fluctuations in the global mean temperature of the Earth’s atmosphere.

In 2004, the energy from massive solar flares bombarded the Earth with solar energy. This solar energy caused heating of the Earth’s surface and atmosphere. Most of the energy of the solar flare eruptions dissipated into space. The amounts of energy ejected were massive, much greater than normal. Had the Earth received a full blast of the solar energy from one of the numerous flare eruptions in 2004, the consequences to life on Earth could have been disastrous. The higher than usual amounts of energy that struck the Earth’s atmosphere did have their effects, however, including some heating of the atmosphere.

Then there is the eruption of volcanoes, such as Mt. St. Helens, ejecting dust and ash into the Earth’s atmosphere. The amount of dust and ash in the atmosphere varies the amount of energy that can cause heating or cooling of the Earth’s atmosphere. Volcanoes also eject the kind of compounds that environmentalists call greenhouse gases. A single eruption the size of the Mt. St. Helens eruption released more of these gases, dust and ash into the atmosphere than all such emissions by human activity since the beginning of recorded human history. And there are numerous volcanic eruptions yearly.

The oceans are also a major source of greenhouse gases, as are trees. Trees and other vegetation take in carbon dioxide and give off other gases such as methane, a major greenhouse gas, and a host of other compounds, many of which are also greenhouse gases. Decaying vegetation also gives off methane gas. Studies of smog in the Los Angeles basin indicate that over 90% of the smog is generated by the vegetation in the area. To aid in perpetuating the hoax, however, environmentalists, aided by major news media outlets, censored and suppressed this study.

Studies have shown that greenhouse gases produced by human activity accounts for around 1 percent of the gases in the atmosphere. The total elimination of human generated greenhouse gases would have a negligible effect on Earth’s global mean atmospheric temperatures. The elimination of all U.S. gasoline powered vehicles would reduce worldwide “greenhouse” emissions by less than 0.2%.” What would be the effect on global mean temperatures? None. Doubling of manmade greenhouse emissions above current levels would increase the global mean temperature by one degree Centigrade, which is within the normal range of temperature swings.

It is the fluctuations of the Earth’s orbit around the sun, volcanic eruptions, the emission of gases by oceans and trees, all natural occurrences, that cause rises and declines in global mean temperatures, i.e., “global warming” and “global cooling,” not human activity.

Satellite data taken over the past 25 years indicate no surface or atmospheric warming. If anything there has been a very slight cooling, on the order of 0.01 degree Centigrade.

Recently, astronomers have noticed a thinning of the polar icecaps on Mars.

Is this “global warming, Mars style” and do Martian SUVs, power plants, and industries cause it? Hardly, but the “environmentalists” think so. Some even blame it on us here on Earth.

Global warming IS a hoax. Those claiming that “global warming” is real have an agenda other than saving the planet from human activity

that being said, good for them.... I dont give a crap whether another country decides to waste its own money or not... as long as its not my taxes being flushed down the toilet
 

Dixie Dash

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Please i am not sure global warming is happening... look at recent NASA statistics... and a report just came out the other day that the earth is naturally cooling itself for the next 10-15 years so we will have no effect on it anyways. Even if the earth is going to warm, its a natural phenomenom, not man made..... remember, the climate used to be such that plants from warmer climates used to grow in new england about 300-400 years ago--- this is nothing more than an attempt for people like Al Gore to try to get into power

Man-Made Global Warming Hoax
Excerpts reprinted with permission from Tom Gremillion
Tuesday, January 25, 2005

Global warming is a hoax, invented in 1988, that combines old myths including limits to growth, sustainability, the population growth time bomb, the depletion of resources, pollution, anti-Americanism and anti-corporate sentiment and, of all things, fear of an ice age. Those that espoused and supported the old myths have joined forced into a new group called “Environmentalists.”

Most environmentalists have no technical or scientific credentials whatsoever. What they have are major news outlets ready and willing to publicize their every utterance regardless of whether or not they are backed up by scientific proof. Atmospheric science requires highly technical knowledge and skills, not possessed by the vast majority of the so-called environmentalists, who yet feel qualified to demand that human activity subjugate itself to the whims of their new deity, Mother Nature.

Environmentalists claim that the Earth’s atmosphere is getting hotter. They claim that the polar icecaps and glaciers will melt and sea levels will rise over two hundred feet, flooding most coastal cities. They claim that many areas of the Earth will turn into deserts. They make all these claims but cannot substantiate them with real scientific evidence. Parts of the polar icecap and glaciers are melting but other areas of the polar icecaps and glaciers are thickening. The environmentalists base their “proof” of the existence of global warming on the melting areas but are strangely silent, even militant to the point of violence, if anyone mentions the areas that are thickening, and those thickening areas are many.

In the past, there have been many times when the global mean temperatures were warmer, sometimes much warmer and colder, much colder than they are now. Global mean temperatures are cyclical with the seasons but also with other normal cycles, as they have been for the entire history of the Earth. Scientific data from ice cores, tree rings and other indicators of global mean temperatures prove this. Human activity has never been the cause of these global temperature swings as the “global warming” advocates claim. If human activity was the cause, where were the SUVs, the power plants and industries in our historical past? They did not exist. If human activity was not the cause of these global temperature swings, what was?

The energy output of the Sun is far greater in one second than human activity could produce in a million years. The Earth rotates around the Sun. Its orbit is slightly elliptical. The energy reaching the Earth from the Sun varies slightly as the distance from the Sun to the Earth varies due to its elliptical orbit. The Sun activity increases and decreases with fluctuations in the solar flares emitted by the Sun. Differences in these fluctuation rates cause increases and decreases of solar energy hitting the Earth. This causes fluctuations in the global mean temperature of the Earth’s atmosphere.

In 2004, the energy from massive solar flares bombarded the Earth with solar energy. This solar energy caused heating of the Earth’s surface and atmosphere. Most of the energy of the solar flare eruptions dissipated into space. The amounts of energy ejected were massive, much greater than normal. Had the Earth received a full blast of the solar energy from one of the numerous flare eruptions in 2004, the consequences to life on Earth could have been disastrous. The higher than usual amounts of energy that struck the Earth’s atmosphere did have their effects, however, including some heating of the atmosphere.

Then there is the eruption of volcanoes, such as Mt. St. Helens, ejecting dust and ash into the Earth’s atmosphere. The amount of dust and ash in the atmosphere varies the amount of energy that can cause heating or cooling of the Earth’s atmosphere. Volcanoes also eject the kind of compounds that environmentalists call greenhouse gases. A single eruption the size of the Mt. St. Helens eruption released more of these gases, dust and ash into the atmosphere than all such emissions by human activity since the beginning of recorded human history. And there are numerous volcanic eruptions yearly.

The oceans are also a major source of greenhouse gases, as are trees. Trees and other vegetation take in carbon dioxide and give off other gases such as methane, a major greenhouse gas, and a host of other compounds, many of which are also greenhouse gases. Decaying vegetation also gives off methane gas. Studies of smog in the Los Angeles basin indicate that over 90% of the smog is generated by the vegetation in the area. To aid in perpetuating the hoax, however, environmentalists, aided by major news media outlets, censored and suppressed this study.

Studies have shown that greenhouse gases produced by human activity accounts for around 1 percent of the gases in the atmosphere. The total elimination of human generated greenhouse gases would have a negligible effect on Earth’s global mean atmospheric temperatures. The elimination of all U.S. gasoline powered vehicles would reduce worldwide “greenhouse” emissions by less than 0.2%.” What would be the effect on global mean temperatures? None. Doubling of manmade greenhouse emissions above current levels would increase the global mean temperature by one degree Centigrade, which is within the normal range of temperature swings.

It is the fluctuations of the Earth’s orbit around the sun, volcanic eruptions, the emission of gases by oceans and trees, all natural occurrences, that cause rises and declines in global mean temperatures, i.e., “global warming” and “global cooling,” not human activity.

Satellite data taken over the past 25 years indicate no surface or atmospheric warming. If anything there has been a very slight cooling, on the order of 0.01 degree Centigrade.

Recently, astronomers have noticed a thinning of the polar icecaps on Mars.

Is this “global warming, Mars style” and do Martian SUVs, power plants, and industries cause it? Hardly, but the “environmentalists” think so. Some even blame it on us here on Earth.

Global warming IS a hoax. Those claiming that “global warming” is real have an agenda other than saving the planet from human activity

that being said, good for them.... I dont give a crap whether another country decides to waste its own money or not... as long as its not my taxes being flushed down the toilet

I hear the same thing from a lot of people and the opposite thing as well. I'm indifferent on the subject because I have not done my research. The city of Dubai sounds like a more futuristic sort of place they are building for conservation purposes. I don't jump on the "Global Warming is Real" bandwagon because everytime the government needs more money for something, they just open their mouths about something negative or scary and the money starts to come in. Conservation is a great thing tho, and I don't see the harm in being more conservative about our resources, but we don't have to get nutty about it either. :)
 
Wow, that's awesome! It sounds like a city out of a science-fiction movie, but it's full of great ideas.
Smart urban planning that employs traditional designs, such as wind cooling towers and narrow streets aligned along a southwest by northeast axis to maximise shaded areas, will further reduce energy needs.
Gee, I wish they used that kind of urban planning in the US. The streets here are so annoying, especially in residential areas, where they're purposely designed to wind in all directions. In many cases, your next door neighbor's house is facing 45 degrees away from your house.
 
Please i am not sure global warming is happening... look at recent NASA statistics... and a report just came out the other day that the earth is naturally cooling itself for the next 10-15 years so we will have no effect on it anyways. Even if the earth is going to warm, its a natural phenomenom, not man made..... remember, the climate used to be such that plants from warmer climates used to grow in new england about 300-400 years ago--- this is nothing more than an attempt for people like Al Gore to try to get into power

Man-Made Global Warming Hoax
Excerpts reprinted with permission from Tom Gremillion
Tuesday, January 25, 2005

Global warming is a hoax, invented in 1988, that combines old myths including limits to growth, sustainability, the population growth time bomb, the depletion of resources, pollution, anti-Americanism and anti-corporate sentiment and, of all things, fear of an ice age. Those that espoused and supported the old myths have joined forced into a new group called “Environmentalists.”

Most environmentalists have no technical or scientific credentials whatsoever. What they have are major news outlets ready and willing to publicize their every utterance regardless of whether or not they are backed up by scientific proof. Atmospheric science requires highly technical knowledge and skills, not possessed by the vast majority of the so-called environmentalists, who yet feel qualified to demand that human activity subjugate itself to the whims of their new deity, Mother Nature.

Environmentalists claim that the Earth’s atmosphere is getting hotter. They claim that the polar icecaps and glaciers will melt and sea levels will rise over two hundred feet, flooding most coastal cities. They claim that many areas of the Earth will turn into deserts. They make all these claims but cannot substantiate them with real scientific evidence. Parts of the polar icecap and glaciers are melting but other areas of the polar icecaps and glaciers are thickening. The environmentalists base their “proof” of the existence of global warming on the melting areas but are strangely silent, even militant to the point of violence, if anyone mentions the areas that are thickening, and those thickening areas are many.

In the past, there have been many times when the global mean temperatures were warmer, sometimes much warmer and colder, much colder than they are now. Global mean temperatures are cyclical with the seasons but also with other normal cycles, as they have been for the entire history of the Earth. Scientific data from ice cores, tree rings and other indicators of global mean temperatures prove this. Human activity has never been the cause of these global temperature swings as the “global warming” advocates claim. If human activity was the cause, where were the SUVs, the power plants and industries in our historical past? They did not exist. If human activity was not the cause of these global temperature swings, what was?

The energy output of the Sun is far greater in one second than human activity could produce in a million years. The Earth rotates around the Sun. Its orbit is slightly elliptical. The energy reaching the Earth from the Sun varies slightly as the distance from the Sun to the Earth varies due to its elliptical orbit. The Sun activity increases and decreases with fluctuations in the solar flares emitted by the Sun. Differences in these fluctuation rates cause increases and decreases of solar energy hitting the Earth. This causes fluctuations in the global mean temperature of the Earth’s atmosphere.

In 2004, the energy from massive solar flares bombarded the Earth with solar energy. This solar energy caused heating of the Earth’s surface and atmosphere. Most of the energy of the solar flare eruptions dissipated into space. The amounts of energy ejected were massive, much greater than normal. Had the Earth received a full blast of the solar energy from one of the numerous flare eruptions in 2004, the consequences to life on Earth could have been disastrous. The higher than usual amounts of energy that struck the Earth’s atmosphere did have their effects, however, including some heating of the atmosphere.

Then there is the eruption of volcanoes, such as Mt. St. Helens, ejecting dust and ash into the Earth’s atmosphere. The amount of dust and ash in the atmosphere varies the amount of energy that can cause heating or cooling of the Earth’s atmosphere. Volcanoes also eject the kind of compounds that environmentalists call greenhouse gases. A single eruption the size of the Mt. St. Helens eruption released more of these gases, dust and ash into the atmosphere than all such emissions by human activity since the beginning of recorded human history. And there are numerous volcanic eruptions yearly.

The oceans are also a major source of greenhouse gases, as are trees. Trees and other vegetation take in carbon dioxide and give off other gases such as methane, a major greenhouse gas, and a host of other compounds, many of which are also greenhouse gases. Decaying vegetation also gives off methane gas. Studies of smog in the Los Angeles basin indicate that over 90% of the smog is generated by the vegetation in the area. To aid in perpetuating the hoax, however, environmentalists, aided by major news media outlets, censored and suppressed this study.

Studies have shown that greenhouse gases produced by human activity accounts for around 1 percent of the gases in the atmosphere. The total elimination of human generated greenhouse gases would have a negligible effect on Earth’s global mean atmospheric temperatures. The elimination of all U.S. gasoline powered vehicles would reduce worldwide “greenhouse” emissions by less than 0.2%.” What would be the effect on global mean temperatures? None. Doubling of manmade greenhouse emissions above current levels would increase the global mean temperature by one degree Centigrade, which is within the normal range of temperature swings.

It is the fluctuations of the Earth’s orbit around the sun, volcanic eruptions, the emission of gases by oceans and trees, all natural occurrences, that cause rises and declines in global mean temperatures, i.e., “global warming” and “global cooling,” not human activity.

Satellite data taken over the past 25 years indicate no surface or atmospheric warming. If anything there has been a very slight cooling, on the order of 0.01 degree Centigrade.

Recently, astronomers have noticed a thinning of the polar icecaps on Mars.

Is this “global warming, Mars style” and do Martian SUVs, power plants, and industries cause it? Hardly, but the “environmentalists” think so. Some even blame it on us here on Earth.

Global warming IS a hoax. Those claiming that “global warming” is real have an agenda other than saving the planet from human activity

that being said, good for them.... I dont give a crap whether another country decides to waste its own money or not... as long as its not my taxes being flushed down the toilet


I shouldn't even bother but wth lol.First off Tom Who?
What are this guys credentials,he doesn't have any bio available at wikepedia and all google shows is this nonsense above and some guy by this name as real estate agent lol.I am not going to bother to go over all the falsehoods in that story cause we have been down that road here so many times already here and it seems some will never beleive what almost all qualified scientists have to say on the subject unlike Tom nobody.Find me one academy of science in the world that agrees with him, and Nasa sure doesn't and maybe that would be compelling.As I posted on just the other day even oil companies like Exxon have stopped warming denial and funding the paid people they had trying to deny it.
But some unknown "Tom" or even a "Dick" or "Harry" is not much of a source.:1orglaugh
 

Facetious

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Let's work on our ultimate survival before all else, then we can work on ousting the surreptitious 5th columnists that perpetrate all of this nonsensical propaganda. ;)

Refrain from the engagement of the radical fringe environmental lobby, who incidentally have nothing to say about the gluttonous Chinese and their involvement
in stripping away any and all energy resources that they can get their hands onto, regardless of the REAL environmental consequences they may inflict.

Perhaps these enviro propagandists' are employed by the PRC, why not ? They certainly have enough currency to do so. They've, as we already know, developed a most thoughtful intel / espionage program in the states.
Amazing what money can buy you these days ! :D Your very own psuedo enviro program using indigenous and naive id - yots as an offensive against their very own nation. :)

Once indoctrinating them, they'll never be able to face the reality that they'd been dooped ! It's too embarrassing . . get it ? ! Com 101
 
this is nothing more than an attempt for people like Al Gore to try to get into power

That was a decent post jedi, though I tend to disagree. As far as the above statement. I really disagree with that. If Al Gore wanted to be in power, then why didn't he jump into the race for President when everyone was calling for him to do so?
 

jedi007gotham

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Conservation is a great thing tho, and I don't see the harm in being more conservative about our resources, but we don't have to get nutty about it either. :)

I agree... we should conserve but not go nuts... I do think we should protect the environment but im not onto this whole global warming thing... remember these are the same people who claimed the earth was cooling in the 70s (granted that was before I was born but still) from what we were doing.... crazy
 

jedi007gotham

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That was a decent post jedi, though I tend to disagree. As far as the above statement. I really disagree with that. If Al Gore wanted to be in power, then why didn't he jump into the race for President when everyone was calling for him to do so?

Because this way he can play up the global warming thing more and more... remember he started with it during his vice presidency and it has not really become a big issue until the last few years. He is probably thinking if he plays it up another 4-8 years, he'd win in a landslide from people in fear of it.... thats my theory anyways

besides, seperate from politics, i am sure he didnt mind getting a nobel peace prize for his global warming stuff
 

jedi007gotham

Closed Account
I shouldn't even bother but wth lol.First off Tom Who?
What are this guys credentials,he doesn't have any bio available at wikepedia and all google shows is this nonsense above and some guy by this name as real estate agent lol.I am not going to bother to go over all the falsehoods in that story cause we have been down that road here so many times already here and it seems some will never beleive what almost all qualified scientists have to say on the subject unlike Tom nobody.Find me one academy of science in the world that agrees with him, and Nasa sure doesn't and maybe that would be compelling.As I posted on just the other day even oil companies like Exxon have stopped warming denial and funding the paid people they had trying to deny it.
But some unknown "Tom" or even a "Dick" or "Harry" is not much of a source.:1orglaugh


Well I didn't write that article... but even if he is unqualified, i am sure he has just as much experience as some of the global warming people like Al Gore. Sure Gore has political experience etc. but what the hell does he know about science either? He was a journalism major and then ascended to his father's senate seat. Keeping this away from politics and my views on the man, those don't seem like scientific credentials either.

also, a lot of the scientists saying global warming is either natural or a hoax constantly face threats of their funding being taken away for questioning global warming. Thus, it shouldn't be too surprising that although the statistics are available there are not a lot of anti-global warming theorists making public statements
 
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