Do you have Gypsies in the US?
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Do not try shrink me gypsy all I want from you are your tears.
I suppose if more were imported a lot more of those Thinner curses could cast and there might not be so much of a "problem".
You would have to run over a whole bunch of them just to get the curse, but I'm sure that's not much of a problem. I mean come on, eat whatever you want, no exercise and you still lose weight?
Kill em' all!
You would have to run over a whole bunch of them just to get the curse, but I'm sure that's not much of a problem. I mean come on, eat whatever you want, no exercise and you still lose weight?
Kill em' all!
Rey C.
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Yes, they are here too. I heard more about them about 15 years ago though. 60 Minutes even did a story on them. I think Ed Bradley was the reporter who did it.
We typically know them as "Travelers". Although when I was a kid, I remember some gypsies coming through our area too. The local police issued a warning to keep an eye on them if they came to anyone's home. In the 90's the Travelers were known for driving customized pickup trucks with fancy toolboxes. The main scam back then was showing up at elderly people's houses and offering to repave their driveways at a deep discount. Of course, they'd get the check, squirt some sealer down and then disappear... on to the next town. There used to be a fair number of them in western North Carolina.
Philbert
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"There are about 20,000 Romani Americans (Roma) in Texas, out of a national population of about one million. Romani people, commonly known as Gypsies, have been in the Americas since 1498, when Columbus brought some on his third voyage to the West Indies."
Irish Travellers (Irish: Lucht siúil) are a traditionally nomadic people of Irish origin living predominantly in Ireland and Great Britain, with a relatively small number in the United States [10,000-30,000]. Among themselves, Travellers refer to themselves as Pavees. Derogatory terms are sometimes used to refer to them by non-Travellers, such as 'pikeys', 'knackers', and 'gypos'. In Irish, Travellers are called an Lucht Siúil (literally, "the walking people"). Many non-Travellers refer to the group as 'Itinerants' which means "people who travel from place to place" or 'tinkers' which originally meant "tinsmiths"; however, the latter term is considered derogatory.
Worlds apart and really different inter-culture; the Roma have ancestors still roaming from Turkey to India (I knew them as 'Kootchies" in Afghanistan, super hardcore nomads), not related to the Irish at all.
Brad Pitt was a Traveller in the movie "Snatch"...
Irish Travellers (Irish: Lucht siúil) are a traditionally nomadic people of Irish origin living predominantly in Ireland and Great Britain, with a relatively small number in the United States [10,000-30,000]. Among themselves, Travellers refer to themselves as Pavees. Derogatory terms are sometimes used to refer to them by non-Travellers, such as 'pikeys', 'knackers', and 'gypos'. In Irish, Travellers are called an Lucht Siúil (literally, "the walking people"). Many non-Travellers refer to the group as 'Itinerants' which means "people who travel from place to place" or 'tinkers' which originally meant "tinsmiths"; however, the latter term is considered derogatory.
Worlds apart and really different inter-culture; the Roma have ancestors still roaming from Turkey to India (I knew them as 'Kootchies" in Afghanistan, super hardcore nomads), not related to the Irish at all.
Brad Pitt was a Traveller in the movie "Snatch"...
I'd be interested to know whether that number is Romani ethnicity or Romani culture. Ethnicity I can see. As I've said, I've met plenty of people in my life who claimed a gypsy ancestor. But 1 million Romani who have retained the Traveler lifestyle? That seems awfully high.
Philbert
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I have no way of knowing that, but from my limited understanding the group is very selective and mixing bloodlines with outsiders is strongly discouraged...as is the case with all small minorities and smaller cultures amongst larger different cultures.
I have always thought the Roma had a strong Southern European strain, but as they are a mystery to me I only have impressions from a few meetings and movies.
I know in horror flicks they seem to be from Romania or Transylvania...
Also, not many in Germany, since the Germans put 500,000 of the million or so in Europe in the 1930s in the kill camps and killed half the world population of Roma. Just a small historical note there...
Philbert
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Not your average Brad Pitt movie...quite cool.
Philbert
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You are mixing group terms...they are NOT Travelers, they are Romani, plural Roma.
Travelers are Irish.
Philbert
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They could be your yardman or a Mod...we can't tell who they are anymore...!
Remember a few years ago the case of a woman beating a little girl really seriously in her car in WalMart's parking lot caught on video?
A nationwide alert went out to find her and help the kid, and she turned out to be a Traveler with several priors and a few pending cases of fraud...
The kid was OK and they didn't take her away...and she had bail or a lawyer or both provided by the Head Cheese of her group of Travelers.
Just remembered that story...
They are out there...
roronoa3000
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No, we killed them off with the Native Americans. They were an eye-sore.
You can't do shit in America unless you have money, the system is set up so you either live in a house or are a homeless bum, even if you are a bum if you try to leave a particular area there are laws in force to manipulate people in to staying in one area.
I was homeless once for a year, if there was something like Gypsies or groups of wanderers I would have joined them.
I was lucky enough to have friends who cared.
America is a highly paranoid culture, which is sad because the potencial for so much creative free spirited expression is everywhere.
Sadly that is exactly what happened to the Hippies of the 1960s and 1970s
Hippies were sort of gypsies accept many of them lived off of there parents money until it was gone and then took to becoming criminals and then became greedy CEO corporate fucks, and sold out there own culture for a prophet.
today they live off of making slaves of the homeless and elderly and making people homeless so they can sell their houses out from under them.
I was homeless once for a year, if there was something like Gypsies or groups of wanderers I would have joined them.
I was lucky enough to have friends who cared.
America is a highly paranoid culture, which is sad because the potencial for so much creative free spirited expression is everywhere.
I think they converted to Widespread Panic and are called "Spreadheads" these days.
And some became the CEOs of large companies and are the douchebags who drove Tyco, Enron, and other comapnies into the ground for their own gain and amusement.
Sadly that is exactly what happened to the Hippies of the 1960s and 1970s
Hippies were sort of gypsies accept many of them lived off of there parents money until it was gone and then took to becoming criminals and then became greedy CEO corporate fucks, and sold out there own culture for a prophet.
today they live off of making slaves of the homeless and elderly and making people homeless so they can sell their houses out from under them.
Get your grammar and your history right.
If you want to be precise and correct, Rom and Romni are the singular forms (male and female respectively) and the plural is usually Roma. But as the word was adapted inaccurately into American English the plural Romani(e)s also exists with the singular in that case being Romani.
And concerning your statement that the National Socialists killed 500,000 of them:
Approximately 100,000 to 300,000 Sinti and Roma where killed in the systematic persecution during the time of the Third Reich (called "Porajmos"). The number 500,000 is a mythical figure used for political reasons. It is as much disproven as the mythical "half a million American lives saved" by the dropping of the atomic bombs on Japan. The only accurate number is that of approximately 10,500 killed in Oświęcim (Auschwitz-Birkenau). The rest is pure guess-work, but history scholars put the final number between 100,000 and 300,000. Read for example Michael Zimmermann's "Rassenutopie und Genozid. Die nationalsozialistische 'Lösung der Zigeunerfrage' ", not some propaganda crap on the internet.
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