Cytherea Starlet of the Year to Pregnant, on Drugs & Evicted
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squallumz
knows petras secret: she farted.
roast beef pussy? :wtf:
In at least some cases, I think the reason would be relative desperation.
Roast beef pussies are the ones that have long inner lips that hang and are usually darker than the rest of the pussy even on a lighter skinned woman. Some women are born with it some get it after having a baby.
squallumz
knows petras secret: she farted.
thats it! :ban:
Expand on your point I am interested.
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Why isn't there a resource to help pornstars make the transition from porn back to a normal life? I'm sure it can't be easy to find a job outside the industry, especially if you've never attended college. I know there are a couple organizations that help, but only if you profess some deep desire to become a Christian. They have programs for prostitutes in foreign countries, to help them integrate back into society....so why can't we do the same for pornstars? It seems like the industry turns its back on them as soon as they aren't making films, which is wrong imo.
They pick to go into porn or should that be they pick to do porn as a career. So why should they get special treatment when they decided to finish. After all it I'd have thought they had thought it through when they took it up. I'd have thought that the question "how will people look at me when they find out what I do/did and treat me" would be right up there in the first few questions.
Maybe the reason the industry turns it's back on them is for good reason. As some come out of it and say they was forced into it. Which lets be honest isn't true. Then there is such as Anita Blonde who has had a go at most people she ever worked with according to reports. They often turn there back on the industry as much as it does them. Plus if you are leaving the industry and trying to do something completely different. Then why would you want to be still connected to it. It's like if I left the company I work for. I wouldn't want to be connected to them if I was doing a job completely different.
Joe Bloggs and us everyday people have to live by the choices we make. So should a pornstar, as they are the exact same as the rest of us. They made the choice in the first place.
It sounds cruel I know. But that is life.
You are assuming that people in their position think things through as thoroughly as you might.
How would you know whether it is true or not? What facts do you have to back up your notion that none of them were ever forced into it? Though I doubt many were physically forced into it. There have been countless examples of women who are lied to, tricked, deliberately addicted to drugs, seduced into believing they are loved when they are not and many, many other stories. I am not typing it is the rule. Or even the majority. But many of these women are manipulated into and during the porn industry. They are often emotionally weak and lonely. Yes. Many women are healthy emotionally and go into it willingly and gladly. But to assume that all or even the vast majority do is naive in the extremis - IMO.
And as for the industry. I have typed it before, it contains (IMO) a huge number of scumbags. Heartless acting opportunists who would take advantage of almost anyone to further their own ends. There are decent people in the industry, no doubt. But I guarantee you that there are more assholes per capita then any other legal profession of it's size in Western society.
Having typed that, I am not for tax payers money to help them transition to 'real' life again. I got no government help when I quit crack. And that is far harder then to quit porn. And what was available was a joke - IMO. So I do not see why porn actresses should get public funds diverted to their transition either.
And to expect the scumbag containing porn industry to do it is hoping for far too much - IMO.
I do agree with you poggy1 that they are ultimately responsible for their actions and the related consequences. And I do not wish to seem harsh to you. But when you start pre supposing what all of them do and have felt I must and have objected.
I agree with you. If you think about it would you recognize most pornstars if they walked into your office for an interview. I probably couldn't. On their resume it wouldn't say they were an adult film star it should say they were an independent contractor for several companies as an actor or actress.
Well if they didn't McRocket they are in need of help. As any (for want of a better phase) normal person would. Meaning anyone of sound mind.
Your thinking of the old porn industry of the 70's and 80's. They now have laws and things they have to stick by. Plus you can't always believe the stories you read. That's why I put according to reports on Anita Blonde. There has been many a person say they was forced into or tricked into porn. Only to be proven wrong. Plus if you was tricked into it, why would you stay in it like half these people who say they was did?
It's a little like the old "I was forced to do drugs" statement. If you fully go into it 95% of them wasn't. Plus I still say only the weak of mind can be forced to do something they don't want too. About the only true way you can just about really threaten anyone into something is to threaten their life. As human instinct in this direction is to preserve yourself. So who is going to threaten to kill someone who doesn't do porn?
I believe that's a major misconception, though not an uncommon one.
poggy - when it comes to young adults, does being relatively immature, naive, rebellious, easily influenced, lacking foresight, etc strike you as a) unsoundness of mind, or b) rather normal to one degree or another?
As far as being literally forced to do porn I agree it's an extremely rare occurence - though being subject to a couple of forms of mental/emotional coersion can leave some girls feeling as if they were essentially forced.
I disagree. But there is no point in debating this point further in my opinion. My experiences tell me you are wrong. Yours (whatever they are) tell you otherwise.
So the weak of mind are less deserving of human compassion then the strong? And how did those people arrive at their weak mindedness? They may have been unloved, raped, molested, abused, put down, constantly told they were nothings or insignificant; that they would amount to little. Or had physical or mental disabilities/diseases/conditions that caused them much anxiety/pain/harm.
Your lack of compassion (not pity, but compassion. Pity is useless - IMO) is saddening.
I believe I WAS tricked into being a drug addict. I was offered a drug that I had no idea what it was with the intention of getting me hooked so that that person could then continue to supply me with that drug to feed my addiction - and since people usually like to get high with others - then get free drugs and other things (since at the time I had allot of extra cash) while I got high with him. And that was exactly what happened. I was weak and confused and I was taken advantage of (I believe).
I take full responsibility for what happened. But if I had not met that person, my life might have been RADICALLY different.
I am not in the mood for this judge mental, ignorant nonsense.
A little advice, stick to subjects you know about because these ones are clearly ones you know little of.
Typical lay person. Hears allot about porn and drugs and so on through various media sources or online gossip or occasional visits to an exotic dance club (strip club) and thinks they understand all there is to understand.
You are free to your opinions. Just as I am free to tell you how wrong your opinions (for the most part) are.
Not that you probably care much, but I am not mad/annoyed at you. But I expected better from you.
EDIT: I wish to apologize for the word nonsense (highlighted above) and some of the tone in my above message. poggy1 was merely expressing his opinion. And I do not sense it was done with any malice. And I believe that there is never anything wrong with simply stating one's opinion. And I insulted him (somewhat) for it. And I should not have.
I was in a feisty mood and the subject at hand is rather close to me.
I do not wish to change what I typed otherwise.
But my statement was almost akin to typing 'Don't speak about something if you don't know exactly what you are speaking of'. And that is an attitude I hate in others - no offense to anyone else.
So, once again, sorry.
Actually you usually find that people who have been through some sort of trauma become very strong in mind in the long run. It's because they become so determined to make sure it never happens to them or others again that it does. It's usually the people who was spoilt and had everything handed to them on a plate that are easily led and weak of mind. Because they've never had to deal with the reality of life.
All you need to do really is look at the performance of the actor/actress in their scenes to see if they was forced or not. This is something that makes the Anita Blonde reports so confusing. Because if she didn't like what she was doing or forced into it. She was one hell of a actress. Maybe she should have gone into mainstream acting because her performances would surely have made her one of the worlds highest paid by now.
This is what makes most of the ones who say the industry forced them to do it or was tricked into it believed to be lying. Because they often continued to do it and the performances was just to convincing to be acting. The ones who don't like doing it usually only do at most a few scenes. Plus you can tell they don't like it in the way they perform.
True. And also, many people are so traumatized by their pasts that they never recover.
I think if you look into the backgrounds of the most moderate to serious criminals, you will usually find some really weird and emotionally destructive childhoods and early lives.
So, you are assuming that if they give good performances that means that they enjoy what they are doing? I strongly disagree with that.
You cannot tell anything about someone's personal feelings by their performances. Whether they be porn actresses or movie actresses.
So every single female adult movie actress that is good in their scenes must be enjoying it? Even if she says later that she did not? You are going to ignore her words and go by her paid performances?
You cannot see the flaw in that thinking?
It's all in the eyes and persona. All you've got to do is look. Plus they have to be one hell of a actress if they put in a truely great performance that they was supposed to have hated. Sorry McRocket but that is where your theory falls down. If they was that good at acting I think they would have taken up mainstream acting as there is a lot more money in it. Plus as I keep pointing out, why would they continue to do more scenes for different companies. Are they all forcing them to do it. As only really contracted stars work for just one company. And your not going to sign a contract for something you hate.
I don't know. Crissy Moran did a few scenes and I did not get the impression that she liked doing them to much. At least from her conversations on here and especially on her MySpace site.
And that is just one example of many.
But whatever. My point is that when you ignore what a woman says but assume that because her performances are so convincing that she must be lieing. I think that is unfair.
So basically, according to you. If a woman does porn and is good at it and does it for awhile then even if afterwards she swears up and down that she did not like doing it; then you assume she must be lieing.
I do not agree with that at all.
You should not call a person a liar when you have no factual proof to back it up. Which, to be honest, is really what you are calling her. Or am I wrong?
I see the flaw in that thinking. Anybody (like you) that's spent time with actresses who'll speak frankly rather than push the standard industry fantasy knows the dichotomy you describe is not uncommon.
Selling the eyes and the persona (and thereby the fantasy) is foundational to fueling a multi billion dollar industry.
I'd agree regarding hating it.
As far as liking it goes though; you don't necessarily have to like something to successfully sell it, correct?