Church condemns lesbian IVF use
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Holy ****, I just realised that my poll isn't very clear.
I think that Lesbians SHOULD be allowed IVF.
I think that Lesbians SHOULD be allowed IVF.
The problem seems to be that people think that having a ***** is some sort of right.These women are putting their own demands ahead of the future well being of the *****. I'm not saying than lesbians aren't loving and caring people but I **** to think of how mixed up their offspring will be.
I strongly feel that the welfare of the ***** is the important factor and outweighs all other considerations.As the ***** can't speak for itself somebody else has to step in.
From an institution that is notorious for its members in power supressing women's rights and ****** little ********, I don't think their stance on social issues has one iota of relevance or credibility.
I sure hope not. It's an archaic evil empire that has exercised its domineering control and suppressed human rights long enough. There has been no greater institution involved in the worldwide pursuit of ruining lives and controlling the masses. And its time that it died.
That's a pretty good point, and it's not even half of what wrong with it.
Plus could you image if the standard on judging if somebody was able to raise ******** was wrong if somebody else didn't agree with how they did it. I don't agree with how a lot of my neighbors do it maybe they should just take them away also. If we were held to that standard nobody would be able to raise any.
dave_rhino
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If you are gay/lesbian, having ******** is something you should sacrifice.
That's just my opinion.
That's just my opinion.
To reiterate my earlier post-the issue isn't about the couple it's about the *****.A ***** isn't a fashion accessory or toy, it's a human being. And what sort of screwed up mind will a heterosexual ***** have if it's brought up by a pair of lesbians?
True , lesbians can be loving and caring but if they cared that much they wouldn't have a ***** under the circumstances.
Political correctness treats all sorts of couples the same way. Biology doesn't.You don't blight the life of a ***** just to be politically correct.
True , lesbians can be loving and caring but if they cared that much they wouldn't have a ***** under the circumstances.
Political correctness treats all sorts of couples the same way. Biology doesn't.You don't blight the life of a ***** just to be politically correct.
Will E Worm
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I agree with Dave Rhino and Marquis2. No offence, but I'd want to have a male and female as my parents.
I agree a ***** isn't an accessory, a ***** is a responsibility.
That also goes for the wealthy. Just because you have money will never make you fit parents. If you don't want the *****. Nannies, butlers and so on shouldn't be the people your ***** sees the most.
If you don't want ******** it would be best to get that taken care of surgically.
I agree a ***** isn't an accessory, a ***** is a responsibility.
That also goes for the wealthy. Just because you have money will never make you fit parents. If you don't want the *****. Nannies, butlers and so on shouldn't be the people your ***** sees the most.
If you don't want ******** it would be best to get that taken care of surgically.
Where are people getting this notion that just because a ***** has two parents of the same gender that the ***** is going to be screwed up? I think people are talking a bunch of crap because they can't come up with any logical reason as to why they shouldn't have ********. In fact, not to be mean, but that reasoning is borderline pathetic. I have seen plenty of people raised by one parent or even one gender, even one gender that was different than the *****, even people with different sexual preferances, when one of the parents was gone and other relatives stepped in to help and they came out perfectly fine a lot more times than not. Blight the ***** :rofl: Give me a break.
I know why don't we just keep anybody that likes porn from having ********. We know how many people out there think that's immoral and wrong. After all you wouldn't want the ***** to become screwed up or anything. All of you have to think of the ******** first. The ********, the ********, oh please won't somebody think of the ********.
I know why don't we just keep anybody that likes porn from having ********. We know how many people out there think that's immoral and wrong. After all you wouldn't want the ***** to become screwed up or anything. All of you have to think of the ******** first. The ********, the ********, oh please won't somebody think of the ********.
Thank you. I concur.
I agree with D-Rock. I know plenty of **** that are raised by parents of the same gender and I know plenty of **** (including myself and my ******** growing up) that are raised by single parents. According to the church we're the messed up ones. Bullshit. I know plenty of **** that are raised by two heterosexual parents that are screwed up. This is just another attempt to spread propaganda. What about the racist parents? Why doesn't the church go after them? No, it only goes after gays/lesbians because it suits them. Same thing when it comes to **** raised by interracial families. Bullshit. Just because you are raised by certain people doesn't always mean that you are going to turn into a whack job. ******** do have their own minds and they do know what's going on. I remember things as young as 3 years old. People think that just because two lesbians are raising a ***** that they are going to flaunt their sexuality in front of their ********. Well, haven't your heterosexual parents ever kissed or hugged in front of you. Guess what, that flaunt their sexuality in front of you. It's the same damn thing. Gays and Lesbians are not having wild orgies in front of their ********. Come on now, pay attention. We're going to listen to the Catholic Church? The same Catholic Church that was trying to hide what they were doing. No way.
It's not a matter of flaunting their sexuality at all.
I grew up in a traditional (natural) ****** and I learned the role of a ****** from mine. Not by what he told me but by his example.My ******'s ****** was ****** in the war and she grew up in a one parent ****** ; this affected her all her life . She entered marriage and parenthood without any real understanding of men.Nowadays parents follow their own needs regardless of the welfare of the ********-divorce,separation, one parent families etc and there are enormous social problems.I'm not saying there aren't some excellent single parents (my grandmother was one) but they can't give a balanced upbringing.You can't go from the general to the specific but there's overwhelming evidence that the natural ****** unit works best.
Society has moved from criminalisation of homosexuality to tolerance and now we are told it's as valid a relationship as any other.I don't see a problem with this as long as nobody else is involved.But as I said before, nature is sexist and political correctness isn't.
I don't have a problem with lesbians adopting ******** - provided they are the best ones for the job; as opposed to just went off to Africa to pick one up for some cash.
I see no reason why lesbians would not make great parents.
But, I definitely do not support them getting fertilized. Though, I don't think there should be a law against it or anything.
There are far too many fucked up parents in this world already. And now these women want to have a ***** why? For their own selfish desires - no other reason. So now you want to create a human being to please yourselves?
Adopting is different. You are raising an already existing, unwanted *****.
But this is totally different.
You can't have everything. And everyone has a limitation. I can never play in pro sports. I was not good enough and I am now too old (44). That is life. And there are a billion other things I can never do. Not from my fault. Just from the 'luck of the draw'.
When you are gay/lesbian, that is just one thing you cannot do.
And besides. If they did do it, that means (I assume) one of the parents will be the biological ****** and one won't. Anyone who thinks that will cause zero problems is being incredibly naive.
And to knowingly and deliberately create a ***** where there are more problems for that ***** right off the bat is selfish - period.
As for what the Catholic Church thinks? Tell them to shut the fuck up. If they spent 10 fucking percent of the energy they do telling everyone what the fuck to do instead of stopping their own from ****** ******** - this world would be FAR better for tens of thousands of soon to be ***** little ********.
I see no reason why lesbians would not make great parents.
But, I definitely do not support them getting fertilized. Though, I don't think there should be a law against it or anything.
There are far too many fucked up parents in this world already. And now these women want to have a ***** why? For their own selfish desires - no other reason. So now you want to create a human being to please yourselves?
Adopting is different. You are raising an already existing, unwanted *****.
But this is totally different.
You can't have everything. And everyone has a limitation. I can never play in pro sports. I was not good enough and I am now too old (44). That is life. And there are a billion other things I can never do. Not from my fault. Just from the 'luck of the draw'.
When you are gay/lesbian, that is just one thing you cannot do.
And besides. If they did do it, that means (I assume) one of the parents will be the biological ****** and one won't. Anyone who thinks that will cause zero problems is being incredibly naive.
And to knowingly and deliberately create a ***** where there are more problems for that ***** right off the bat is selfish - period.
As for what the Catholic Church thinks? Tell them to shut the fuck up. If they spent 10 fucking percent of the energy they do telling everyone what the fuck to do instead of stopping their own from ****** ******** - this world would be FAR better for tens of thousands of soon to be ***** little ********.
Supafly
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Just for their own selfish desires? That would mean 'natural' couples of man/woman are not selfish? How come? Just because they are what nature wants? There are a lot of single ******* who have to raise their ******** alone, because the ****** of the **** doesn't want to act like a ****** shoulld - are they being selfish, too? I believe it is far better to have a loving couple raise ********, not regarding their specific sex. That is definitly not selfish, rather the opposite.
And compare the birth and raising of a ***** with being able to play professional sport is not very well chosen. Professional sport is selfish, if we may jump back to the last paragraph - you do it just for your own pleasure, ultimately. If you choose to be a parent, even if you have hard times to go through, you are not selfish. You would have a easier life without that choice.
Last of your points; that people who know times are hard should not produce ********; that would mean that mankind itself should stop reproducing.
The world is fucked up, the climate is sliding downhill at a murderous pace, **** can easily get shot at school. No man, no woman can change the way the world is going, too late to safe us from a global climate disaster.
If we follow your arguments, that is. :2 cents:
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