Charlottesville erupts.

[xfire]

Re: Charlotte erupts.

I'll repeat, I really don't care which side escalated it to the point it reached, they passed their 1st Amendment protections when it got violent, which was hours before anyone died.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Re: Charlotte erupts.

I'll repeat, I really don't care which side escalated it to the point it reached, they passed their 1st Amendment protections when it got violent, which was hours before anyone died.

You have your moments, tonight is not one of them.

I will do this, the arguments are laid out as to why Unite The Right should have been allowed to protest.

I will concede defeat in the argument while the facts steeped in constitutionality remain for all to see.

I am catching a flight in about 6 hours heading to the last few days of the ABA conference in New York. I will be surrounded by several thousand other people in my profession who are weak in the debate department also. I'll see if I can pick up a few pointers.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

Re: Charlotte erupts.

*Charlottesville* sigh

 

[xfire]

Re: Charlotte erupts.

Unite the Right had a permit, but that doesn't give them the right to go beyond the scope of that permit. Perhaps if the other groups that showed up were arrested when they got there, without a permit, the situation could have been avoided. Either way, it's a failure of law enforcement whether they failed to arrest the groups that didn't have a permit OR if they failed to disperse the crowd when it turned violent and started getting out of control.

I really have no desire to engage in personal tit-for-tat with you, if you still think I'm wrong then I will agree to disagree and kindly see my way out of this thread.

 

[meesterperfect]

Re: Charlotte erupts.

Charlottesville, not Charlotte.

 

[bobjustbob]

Re: Charlotte erupts.

False flag alert. An actor drove or didn't drive a car and hurt people.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Re: Charlotte erupts.

Unite the Right had a permit, but that doesn't give them the right to go beyond the scope of that permit. Perhaps if the other groups that showed up were arrested when they got there, without a permit, the situation could have been avoided. Either way, it's a failure of law enforcement whether they failed to arrest the groups that didn't have a permit OR if they failed to disperse the crowd when it turned violent and started getting out of control.

I really have no desire to engage in personal tit-for-tat with you, if you still think I'm wrong then I will agree to disagree and kindly see my way out of this thread.

As far as I am concerned it was a spirited disagreement.


I am going to be having a good time in New York for a couple of days. I hope the Hustler Club is still open.

Cotdam I love that place.


Freeones political wars are but a distant memory when I am in the Big Apple.



Oh yeah and pizza. Real pizza.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

Re: Charlotte erupts.

*Charlottesville* sigh

Charlottesville, not Charlotte.

Yeah, thanks.

 

[sean miguel]

Re: Charlotte erupts.

No, they didn't. They said it was fucked up and they don't support it.

Are you willing to say the same about this? That it's fucked up, and that a guy shouldn't have driven his car into a crowd of people? Because it seems like you and others are trying to defend or even justify the act.

Of course. Nothing justifies what he did unless he felt his life was threatened by the crowd which at least by the video, it doesn't appear so. He injured all those people and killed a woman in a deliberate act. He should get the death penalty as far as I'm concerned.

But like we were told after the Scalise shooting, this one person doesn't represent a group. And this group of white nationalists does not represent conservatives.

 

[meesterperfect]

Re: Charlotte erupts.

False flag alert. An actor drove or didn't drive a car and hurt people.

You mean like in London?

you poor naive fool.

 

[HansMoleman]

Re: Charlotte erupts.

Antifa member Joel Vangheluwe was the driver.



Nope. It was James Alex Fields.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/12/us/charlottesville-car-crash-suspect-idd/index.html

 

[xfire]

Re: Charlotte erupts.

I never hear reference to "antifa" except from alt-right fanboys.

 

[HansMoleman]

Re: Charlotte erupts.

I never hear reference to "antifa" except from alt-right fanboys.

To be totally honest, this week is the first time I'm hearing of antifa (that I can recall). All these republicans are asking democrats why they aren't calling out antifa. From a quick Google search, antifa means anti-fascism. Shouldn't we all be anti-fascism? Not sure what I'm missing.

 

[xfire]

Re: Charlotte erupts.

That's what I've seen, too, it's not an organization, more a vague philosophy. Of course more than that though, it's been turned into a Meme by Neo-Nazis and their supporters, a contrived boogieman. I mean for fuck's sake, I'm against fascism, what's wrong with that?

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

Re: Charlotte erupts.

That's what I've seen, too, it's not an organization, more a vague philosophy. Of course more than that though, it's been turned into a Meme by Neo-Nazis and their supporters, a contrived boogieman. I mean for fuck's sake, I'm against fascism, what's wrong with that?

Fuck neo nazi scum, fuck the KKK, fuck skin heads, and most of all fuck any douche bag bitch that supports the poisonous bullshit the those half wits puke forth.

 

[meesterperfect]

Funny how the ZIO Media propaganda lie machine puts anyone who disagrees with removing Confederate Civil War statues ect in the category of
Nazi.
They just love that word. Milk it for all they can.

And sad how some people are still small minded enough to fall for it over and over again.

 

[meesterperfect]

Re: Charlotte erupts.

To be totally honest, this week is the first time I'm hearing of antifa (that I can recall). All these republicans are asking democrats why they aren't calling out antifa. From a quick Google search, antifa means anti-fascism. Shouldn't we all be anti-fascism? Not sure what I'm missing.

What you are missing Hans is that they are a paid protest machine.
If people actually believe what they are protesting they dont need to be paid.

And also what they do is attempt to silence anyone with an opinion.
Anybody critical of the US GOV.
That is by definition a means of Facism.

 

[xfire]

Funny how the ZIO Media propaganda lie machine puts anyone who disagrees with removing Confederate Civil War statues ect in the category of
Nazi. They just love that word. Milk it for all they can. And sad how some people are still small minded enough to fall for it over and over again.

Perhaps the fact that the protesters were sporting swastikas and other Nazi regalia might give some credence to the proposition that they're Nazis.

 

[HansMoleman]

Funny how the ZIO Media propaganda lie machine puts anyone who disagrees with removing Confederate Civil War statues ect in the category of
Nazi.
They just love that word. Milk it for all they can.

And sad how some people are still small minded enough to fall for it over and over again.

It was the protesters who brought out the Nazi flags. The protesters who were protesting the removal of the Confederate statue.

 

[ApolloBalboa]

Re: Charlotte erupts.

The governor should be recalled for attempting to deny a segment of society their constitutional rights because he does not like them.

Why does this only stop at the governor, and why only when it's a Democrat? The President seems to have done this already (or come close), and I hear or see no calls for recall from you or most other conservatives.