Surferman774 said:
hotrod 2nd amendment states: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" To live in this country means you have to follow the laws/regulations. There is a law about murder. There is a law about owning an un-registered gun. Basicly if you are a citizen of the US then you have these rights, and you must follow the rules no matter if you are/arent a citizen. You may own a gun, but the laws say you cannot use it against people. Your just retarted, someone once said to me "know your shit, before you talk"
Yeah, by far the most powerful military in the world; and the U.S. needs a powerful militia. You ignorant Americans (or American lovers) and your treating the constitution like it was written by God him/herself. That was written in the 1700's when American's were not allowed to form a militia. And they did not have an army or navy. The words made sense then. They are obsolete now - and should be treated as such. And I do.
mcrocket, everything is an arguement to you..no matter what. Even if there is no arguement, you start one.(offtopic) And yes I bet if Georges had the chance to save lives...he would kill a scum bag terrorist. I would in heartbeat only because someday in the future he is going to attribute to another attack on the freeworld. You need to stop flaming, keep it cool, and let one have there opinion in peace. "I understand why the cops did it and why most of you supported it so strongly. But it was wrong...period. And those of you that supported it were also. Period.".....another arguement started by the way
I did not realize that you have heard or read everything I have ever said - that is the only way you could know that everything is an arguement to me...which it is not obviously.
But when ignorant and/or angry people like you start talking about stuff like this; I feel the need to educate you on how wrong you are. And if that doesn't work (which is usually the case) then just to piss you off is fine. Maybe that will get you using more of your brain. Something has to. OR maybe you will just eventually grow up - who knows.
What I would Like to say about this whole discussion:
Sure democracy is good, but it has its faults.... no one is saying its the ideal government for this world but its working right now and it seems the only one working too.
Terrorists are scum bags, and who ever disagrees is obviously messed up.
Hmmm. so the mothers of the terrorists are screwed up? So the friends of the terrorists who think their friend has lost it but doesn't think they are scumbags is 'messed up'. So, their children are messed up? So everyone in the middle east that (wrongly) looks at them as their only hope to end generations of repression and poverty is 'messed up'. That's alot of people.
Way to act like all the other uninformed and ignorant on here and put blank labels on huge groups of people.
I don't think they are all scumbags. I think they have been brain washed.
The war in Iraq...where to begin with...
In some cases it was the right thing to do
In some it wasn't...
Saddam yes is bad man and commited atrocities that are un-imaginable
The "proof" used to go to war in Iraq was considered trustworthy at the time....people make mistakes and yes sometimes big ones like this. Bush didn't lie. If you are given evidence about wmd's being constructed trustworthy or not...especialy in an un-stable country you cannot CANNOT ignore it. What if we were right and we didn't go into iraq.......then saddam could either be stockpiling for a war plan, and or selling them to terrorists. Before we went into iraq.. people couldnt vote agaisnt saddam, women barely had rights....and who ever opposed of saddam were removed....including there family.....mass graves are found every day...Explain that?..not normal
Fine. They went in and most Iraqi's are grateful (apparently). Now FAR and away most Iraqi's want them to leave (according to opinion polls). SO get out.
And as long as the UN inspectors were there they could not stockpile. That is from many in and out of the UN.
And this mass graves thing. How many people were in these graves? Hundreds? Thousands? You people! Far more Iraqi's have died since the U.S. occupation started then have died under Saddam's regime in what? 10 years? 20? And it is just going to probably get worse. Iraq is headed to a civil war - almost guaranteed.
The AMerican's may have done good (for selfish reason's) by overthrowing Saddam. But they are fucking it up royally since then. And it is costing thousands of American and over 100 thousand Iraqi lives.
All to install a democracy and give the Irqi people freedom of choice - even though the IRaqi's want the US to leave and the US won't. So it's democracy on the United States' terms. Sounds more like colonialism to me.
Yes there are other countrys that were a bigger threat ex: North Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia....none of these countrys at the time were known to be making wmd's so you can forget about the question: "Why didn't we invade them instead?".....North Korea agreed to attend peacetalks, Saudi Arabia isnt an immediate threat, and Iran is currently underway in peacetalks with Britain, Germany, and France. Grow a brain......
How naive can you be? North Korea already has nukes. SO the peacetalks are too late. And you actually think Iran is NOT going to develop nukes? Of course they will. ANd they have the backing (quietly) of the entire middle east. Who does Iran hate more the U.S. or Israel? Israel or course. And Israel has nukes. Lots of them. And IRBM's to deliver them. IRan (quite understandably) wants the same. And they will have them. They have lived without the West for years. What are Western sanctions going to do to Iran? Little. Iran WILL have nukes within two years. And they would be stupid if they did anything else.
And if you knew a fraction as much as you act like you do about the world; you would know that Saudi Arabia is possibly a more repressive society then Iraq ever was. They don't have as many people dieing in custody as they did in IRaq - although it does happen in Saudi land also. But they are far more repressive to women's right's and freedoms. They aren't much better then the Talaban were when they ran Afghanistan.
Saudi Arabia is probably a safer place then Iraq was under Saddam. But otherwise, it is more repressive of basic human rights. Especially for women.
Do some reading of non biased material next time before you speak or type on a subject you clearly know not much about.
