Best Current MLB Player

Which one?

  • Albert Pujols

    Votes: 29 52.7%
  • Alex Rodriguez

    Votes: 8 14.5%
  • Hanley Ramirez

    Votes: 2 3.6%
  • Manny Ramirez

    Votes: 2 3.6%
  • Evan Longoria

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Ryan Howard

    Votes: 2 3.6%
  • Ryan Braun

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Joe Mauer

    Votes: 6 10.9%
  • David Ortiz

    Votes: 1 1.8%
  • Other (can be pitchers)

    Votes: 5 9.1%

  • Total voters
    55

alexpnz

Lord Dipstick
Cmon ya'll....stop hating, respect this mans ability!
The G.O.A.T :bowdown:

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LOL...said like a true Cubs fan! I'd be disappointed with anything less from you AR!! :thumbsup:

Curious though....how would you feel if Albert was a Cub??? Derrek Lee? Give me a fucking break. :1orglaugh

That is so true.. The 1908 world series was a long long long time ago...

Albert Pujols is the best right now..
 

feller469

Moving to a trailer in Fife, AL.
I will throw Kevin Youkilis into the conversation. Solid glove at two positions, a high average and can hit for power. Is he the best? No, but I would prefer to see his name on the ballot than a one-dimensional player like David Ortiz. And yes, I am a Red Sox fan.

(if Jim Rice doesn't have his hand broken by a pitch at the end of the 75 regular season, i think they beat the Reds in the World Series)
 
Cmon ya'll....stop hating, respect this mans ability!
The G.O.A.T :bowdown:

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I always hated on him; monster numbers during the regular season but garbage in the postseason...even compared him to Patrick Ewing's reign (of terror) for the Knicks in the 90s (disappeared in the playoffs) but he came through for us this year. :hatsoff: to Alex...but he's still no where close to Pujols.
 

alexpnz

Lord Dipstick
Anybody who thinks Albert Pujols is a better pure baseball player than Alex Rodriguez are either on pills or kidding themselves!:nono:
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
Hmm, this is a really, REALLY tough question to answer. Pujols is definitely the best and most consistent hitter. But, is he the best fielder? Because, that's 1/2 of his job when he plays the field. So...??? I don't know. This is an impossible question to answer.
 
Actually, the last beacon of purity in baseball is The Kid. While Mac and Sosa where juicing their ways through the home run records, The Kid kept pace for quite a while. While Bonds was juicing his way past Aaron, The Kid sat on the sidelines wondering what could have been, had injuries not hurt his career.
Look at pictures of The Kid - he still has the same basic figure he did when he first came up. Yeah, his stomach sticks out slightly more and his ass sticks out a lot more, but he still has the same sweet swing. Sure, it isn't as efficient any more...but that is something that happens to those who don't juice. Heck, look at pictures of The Kid's dad at the same age...they have the same body build.
You want purity - look no further than Seattle. Look no further than The Kid.

Nice post.....well said. :thumbsup:
 
Anybody who thinks Albert Pujols is a better pure baseball player than Alex Rodriguez are either on pills or kidding themselves!:nono:

Pujols career average: .334/.427/.628

A-Rod career average: .305/.390/.576

Without question, Pujols is the better player.

Hmm, this is a really, REALLY tough question to answer. Pujols is definitely the best and most consistent hitter. But, is he the best fielder? Because, that's 1/2 of his job when he plays the field. So...??? I don't know. This is an impossible question to answer.

Depends on the position. I know the "purists" are going to have a cow, but Pujols career is -4 runs defensively at 3B, Rodriguez is -2 runs at 3B. At short, Rodriguez career is +9 runs, and at 1B, Pujols has a career average of +12 runs. Pujols was a league average defender at 3B, Rodriguez is a league average 3B. Pujols is Gold Glove caliber, by the numbers, at first, and Rodriguez was pretty much Gold Glove caliber at short.

In addition, the easiest way for me to gauge who is better between the two is to figure out what their career WAR (Wins Above Replacement), which factors in both offensive contribution, as well as defense. Pujols career WAR is 64, and Rodriguez career WAR is 60, rounding up. If the basic stats weren't convincing, the advanced statistics overwhelmingly show Pujols to be the better all around player.
 
I would go with Pujols, but I also have a feeling Puljols might not age as well as Rodriguez. (Assuming Puljols age is even what he says it is) Then again in this day in age it's hard to tell how people are going to age. But I think when it's all said and done years from now Rodriduez will keep from dropping off in his late 30s better than Puljols will.
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
Depends on the position. I know the "purists" are going to have a cow, but Pujols career is -4 runs defensively at 3B, Rodriguez is -2 runs at 3B. At short, Rodriguez career is +9 runs, and at 1B, Pujols has a career average of +12 runs. Pujols was a league average defender at 3B, Rodriguez is a league average 3B. Pujols is Gold Glove caliber, by the numbers, at first, and Rodriguez was pretty much Gold Glove caliber at short.

In addition, the easiest way for me to gauge who is better between the two is to figure out what their career WAR (Wins Above Replacement), which factors in both offensive contribution, as well as defense. Pujols career WAR is 64, and Rodriguez career WAR is 60, rounding up. If the basic stats weren't convincing, the advanced statistics overwhelmingly show Pujols to be the better all around player.

Eh, I'm one of those damned "purists" that you speak of. For example, I think that Ivan Rodriguez is the best catcher of all-time. Sure, there are catchers that have hit for better numbers and who have been more productive in the sense of scoring and producing runs, but a lot of those catchers have had mediocre defensive careers at best. Pudge, on the other hand, is a defensive angel who plays the position more beautifully than anyone ever has before. And, since fielding is 20% of a player's game (unless they are a career DH), then that matters a lot, IMO.

FYI - I say that fielding is 20% of a player's game because every player has to be able to run, hit, field, throw and catch, no matter what position they play (with the exception of career DHs). If a player can't do all of those things successfully or with great productivity, than I would have a hard time considering them the best baseball player, whether it be of today's game or of all-time.
 
Eh, I'm one of those damned "purists" that you speak of. For example, I think that Ivan Rodriguez is the best catcher of all-time. Sure, there are catchers that have hit for better numbers and who have been more productive in the sense of scoring and producing runs, but a lot of those catchers have had mediocre defensive careers at best. Pudge, on the other hand, is a defensive angel who plays the position more beautifully than anyone ever has before. And, since fielding is 20% of a player's game (unless they are a career DH), then that matters a lot, IMO.

FYI - I say that fielding is 20% of a player's game because every player has to be able to run, hit, field, throw and catch, no matter what position they play (with the exception of career DHs). If a player can't do all of those things successfully or with great productivity, than I would have a hard time considering them the best baseball player, whether it be of today's game or of all-time.

The funny thing is, his numbers tend to support that very assertion. He defense, (and when I say that, I'm talking about all of the facets you referenced) was indeed Gold Glove worthy, he averaged about +12 runs. I know you may not necessarily trust the statistics, but the evidence actually tends to support your statement of Pudge.
 
My favorite player is D-Lee, so in my mind, he's the best player in MLB. Statistics don't back it up, but I could care less. Second place would be Aramis Ramirez.

643,224 would be Alfonso Soriano who I would like to see eviscerated and ran over by a train. I'd pay handsomely for this if anyone is interested...

you would pick everyone from the cubs. lol. anyway, i like d-lee a lot, but he sure aint the best
 
Hmm, this is a really, REALLY tough question to answer. Pujols is definitely the best and most consistent hitter. But, is he the best fielder? Because, that's 1/2 of his job when he plays the field. So...??? I don't know. This is an impossible question to answer.

can he field? are u fuckin' kidding me. he's already got multiple gold gloves
 
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