Re: RM or SAS?

I would doubt that 66% of the SAS come from Scotland, there's many more English people in the British Army than from Scottish Regiments. They can't all be pussies :D But, from what I hear there's a higher proportion of Scots in 22 Reg than there should be.

I also don't think you can compare the Royal Marines to 22 Reg. The RM are tough, and hard fighters, but they're just commandos, and a different type of infantry unit. I wouldn't class them as Special Forces. Put it this way, the RM have a nice shiny website. 22 Reg don't!! :1orglaugh A better comparison would the the RM's SBS, and I couldn't pick a winner out of those two :fight:

Those servicemen who are already regarded as outstanding will be advised to consider the SAS or SBS. During the selection process only about 10% make it.That's why they are called special forces.
Surprisingly enough they tend to be on the small side and not at all gung ho.
 
^^^I was quite surprised when I saw a program about the Iranian Embassy hostage crisis. The SAS guys didn't sound tough or boastfull, they just had a job to do. Go in, clear the room, then move on to the next one. To them, it was no different than a farmer getting the hay in before the rain comes. Do it fast, do it right, job done, get down the pub. And to me, that is much tougher and braver than any street thug kicking someone and running away, or those pathetic U.S gang members who think courage is pointing a gun at someone from the safety of their speeding car.

SAS, SBS, SEALS, Marines, whoever, when push comes to shove they can all be as tough as they come.
HOO-RAA! :hatsoff: :wave2:
 
Royal Forces ...

Again, I wasn't trying to compare the general Commandos to Special Forces on the merits of kill capability or expertise.
I was, more or less, saying that the minimum, physical requirements to become a Royal Marine seem to best that of SAS.

The "selective" aspect of many Special Forces are far more in-depth on "capabilities" than passing basic, minimum requirements.
For example, I'd take someone who can handle pressure, and put each and every bullet on the mark in a fraction of a second far higher, and they're will be far fewer that can.
 
Now hold on!

American Football is as close to a chess match as you can get from a sport, and has some of the most varied people of different skill sets on one team. Plus it's not like other more popular sports that developed in other countries are the height of athleticism. Sure, out of them rugby is a decent sport...and that about it.
Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Hold-on!
I wouldn't go to that extreme, there are other sports that bring similar to the table.

My prior post on American Football only tried to explain why many people watch it, even outside the US.
It's getting ever so popular in the UK and Commonwealth, although I'd hardly say it will challenge other sports there anytime soon.

I (an American) wasn't trying to tell anyone in Britain, or the greater Commonwealth for that matter, what is and isn't a sport, and what are the greatest sports.
Just that the American Football league, stripping out all the hype/marketing (that's just our media/funding), does have its merits.

Personally, I find American College Football even more enjoyable, but that's another story.

Cricket, golf, and tennis don't belong being described as involving athleticism. Things like water polo and indoor volleyball aren't big enough to take seriously, and martial arts isn't really a conventional sport.
Er, um, er, don't know what to say. I really just do not agree.

Soccer is pretty much a bunch of skinny people running around all the time kicking a ball and flopping to the ground at the slightest touch. If I wanted to watch running endurance I would go to a marathon.
You have to be pretty tough to play Football (Soccer), don't short-change the players.
I'd argue that Hockey is more physically challenging overall (the skating and injuries involved), but there are some unique aspects to Football (Soccer) that make it very athletic and a sometimes brutal sport.

I wouldn't be surprised if 98% of non-punters/kickers in the NFL would dominate soccer players in pretty much everything that didn't involve running long distances over time. Even half of the NFL punters could probably kick nearly all Soccer players asses in a fight.
Ummm, considering a lot of American Football kickers come from Football (Soccer), I'd change that viewpoint.
No pads and the collisions do occur. ;)

Actually,cricket is the nearest game to chess and is often described as such.It is the most complex game in existence, there are so many variables to take into account.You set traps, try to lure your opponent to his destruction,vary your attack and in longer games your decisions might be affected by what the weather has in store two or three days away.
As for athleticism , this takes many forms. A batsman who has to face hostile bowling for hours on end (the bowler is allowed to aim the ball at him) , a bowler or wicket keeper has to be active all day, not just a mere hour or two.
Cricket is definitely more involved than American baseball on many levels, I'll give it that.
It's really different than American football, much longer but not the same type of contact, and the strategy is different.

American football is really a team strategy where the first 3 seconds of any play make up most of the strategy-counter.
Nearly all media coverage focuses on the "skill positions" but 90% of the game is about the collective team execution.

You really have to be into American Football to become familiar with it.
 
Cricket has many variants. There is the 5 day game (Test Matches), then there are the games which are played over 4 or 3 days. There is then the Limited Over games (usually 50 over per side). And now there is the new format 20/20, or T20 as some call it.

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Re: Royal Forces ...

Again, I wasn't trying to compare the general Commandos to Special Forces on the merits of kill capability or expertise.
I was, more or less, saying that the minimum, physical requirements to become a Royal Marine seem to best that of SAS.

The "selective" aspect of many Special Forces are far more in-depth on "capabilities" than passing basic, minimum requirements.
For example, I'd take someone who can handle pressure, and put each and every bullet on the mark in a fraction of a second far higher, and they're will be far fewer that can.

I don't understand what you are saying here.The physical requirements of the SAS and SBS are very much greater than of any other arm,including the Royal Marines,Parachute Regiment etc .Only a small proportion succeed the incredibly tough and gruelling selection including the "sickener", not forgetting that all the applicants are considered well above average in their existing units.
 

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Why are we comparing Militaries, if the US went to war with the UK, there would be no island left, we do have natural gas reserves and some oil, now that the world is in a recession those products might be kind of appetising to the US government.


Gordon Brown needs to watch his ass!
 
I'm from Australia and i love NFL, what i do like most is the strategy part of it too, having played quite a bit of it with my mates

its so great when you beat the defence with thier pants around thier ankles, or when you make the perfect defensive call and stop the runner cold

my best TD. no huddle. 1 yard from goal. lined up in goal line. 3 WR's darted into angles and QB threw quick short pass. the defence thought we were going for HB smash and rushed the QB and completely ignored the WR's

NFL is good stuff

but soccer is boring as bat shit. kicking the ball around, no action, its so boring i can't even be bothered explaining how boring it is
 

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All the best butlers, man servants and valets come from Britain. :thumbsup:

Well, they used to:

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Would you want these people serving you and your guests. I think not :ak47:
 
Why are we comparing Militaries, if the US went to war with the UK, there would be no island left, we do have natural gas reserves and some oil, now that the world is in a recession those products might be kind of appetising to the US government.


Gordon Brown needs to watch his ass!


I think you flatter yourselves. Our forces might be smaller, and you may utilise more technology, but in a straight fight between our forces in a 1 to 1 ratio, I'd bet on ours every time, particularly as far as the Army is concerned.
 
Why are Women from England beautiful ? I really do get turned on by a Woman with a English accent. English women are hot Im American by the way.
 
Why are Women from England beautiful ? I really do get turned on by a Woman with a English accent. English women are hot Im American by the way.

I'm guessing you have only seen the hot chicks that come from Britain and never seen some of the ugly shit that we got to deal with as well.

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Leave it out!

I take any compliment i can ;-)
 
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