Are there any Military guys here?

[thedude6926]

Marine here.... Semper Fi !

0311/infantry
atached to Recon for a year in Japan
atached to Snipers 8 months in Iraq



for all the guys that have lost there life in combat... they are forever in my heart! RIP brothers and sisters

 

[squallumz]

my cousin was in Japan and iraq. You Might have known him.

 

[thedude6926]

Maybe ... I was with 2/4 for 4 years

When I went to Japan I was with the 31st MEU

 

[squallumz]

its all chinese to me. ill pm you the name. last thing i need is more stalkers online.

 

[Torre82]

Used to be a combat medic, US Army 91 Whisky.

Glad to be out, not glad to be back in a society where everybody thinks they're the same 'rank'.

It's a GOOD thing to wear your respect level on your collar.

 

[Legzman]

There are several military guys on here I have noticed

 

[Torre82]

There are several military guys on here I have noticed

Several, hooah.

Either they havent seen this topic, yet.. or they're on page 10 of their reply.

If you've been in, you always come back with too many stories to mention.

Am I right?

 

[thedude6926]

hahaha I hear ya bro... and thank god for combat medics. Y'all are kick ass!

Yeah I am glad I am out but ... its not even close to being the same in other jobs. I miss the guys and the good times. I don't miss the big green dick. You military guys know what I am talking about I bet...?

 

[Roughneck]

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hahaha I hear ya bro... and thank god for combat medics. Y'all are kick ass!

You can say that again...

You Military guys know what I am talking about I bet...?

Do I miss the Army? Hell no!
Do I miss some of the guys in was with in the Army? Everyday of my life...

You can offer me all the money in the world and you can offer me all the medals you want - but I would never go through that again...

It's a GOOD thing to wear your respect level on your collar.

Personally, I'm happy about that. Nothing worse than having assholes fuck up your life just because they are "senior".

Respect must be earned - it is never a "given". I'd rather be treated "equal" than have to put up with that hierarchy bullshit. Anybody who has ever had a chickenshit for an officer knows what I'm talking about....

cheers,

 

[Roughneck]

I think you're dead right on this.

How could you possibly know what it means? Or how it feels?

So it sucks that some of you lost people you were close to when you were in the forces.

What little remaining shred of respect I had for you just went down the toilet.

"so it sucks"? Infuckingdeed!

Tell me - although I doubt you will - did any of you ever have to kill anybody? What was it like?

You wouldn't be able to understand I couldn't be bothered.

Have a nice day Fox

 

[Big P13]

Tell me - although I doubt you will - did any of you ever have to kill anybody? What was it like?

Pretty tasteless question Fox. Once you've reached a certain level of maturity you usually realise this is a question that you should have the respect not to ask a former military person.

 

[Iamforever]

You wouldn't be able to understand I couldn't be bothered.

i can. my biological dad was a marine. he was in vietnam. he would tell me anything i wanted to know about the tour he did, except the actual combat itself. i did the math and came to the conclusion that he did kill some people. i guess it wasnt pretty.

 

[Big P13]

It was a serious question. I can imagine it would be a horrible thing, but I was wondering how it felt. I figured most of you wouldn't want to talk about it, but I don't see why it's a tasteless question. I'm sorry if it offended you. And Roughneck, don't pretend you ever had any respect for me in the first place - I read your posts. I meant when I said it sucks. I feel bad for you for the experiences you've been through. We've all lost people, but not as horribly as that. I was wondering if with all these military people here that any of you were forced to kill anyone and if that was a scarring experience. Why can we talk about our friends being killed but not if our members had to kill? It's your choice not to answer but I can still ask. I don't treat military people any different from anyone else. I was being very straight with all of you, not trying to upset you.

Maybe you just haven't seen the reaction of a military person who's been asked that before. When I was working at my first job, and I was very new, there was a former Army Ranger who had served in the first Gulf War that worked there. Actually, there were a lot of former military people that worked there. Some idiot, another new guy, when he found out that he was an Army Ranger asked him if he'd ever killed anybody. His expression just went slack, and stoney, and all he said was "I don't like to talk about that." It wasn't what he said, but the expression on his face that spoke volumes. It chills me a bit right now thinking of it. It my be a valid question, but these guys deserve the respect of not having people asking them about it so as to make them relive it again.

 

[Legzman]

I'm sure you didn't mean to offend anyone fox but I worked with someone who was in the marines. I was an ass and asked the same question to him. He had recently come back from Iraq. His facial expression was just how bp13 said it was. All he said was "God knows what I've done". Pretty much summed it up right there for me. Also answered the question.
I learned it's not a question you ask anyone whos been in combat. Combat is a terribly traumatizing experience and nobody wants to talk about it ever, with anyone, least of all on the internet with people they've never even met.
War changes people. If he said he saw combat...do the math! It's something they all know they had to do in the situation. They all deal with it in their own way and we should respect them enough to not make them bring it up in their minds. I see how a former military person could be offended by this question!

 

[Torre82]

Anyway, if I know a cop I might ask him if he ever had to shoot anyone.


If I know a judge I might ask if he ever gave out the death sentence.


Etc. It was just an honest question - like Marines are trained to kill, and I was wondering if they'd ever used it.



But it doesn't make sense... why soldiers are often, not always, but often (like on this thread) the first to mention their fallen comrades in battle, and remembering them, which is sad, and horrible, and depressing.

Addressing that, point for point..

Cops deal with civilians and will generally try to tazer or avoid violence and when something happens, to a fellow cop OR a perpetrator it usually didnt have to happen that way. They might call it a 'war on crime' in the news but it certainly isnt a war when you dont know who the enemy is. Domestic disturbance? Unarmed suspect? Who knows? It is senseless. But it has similiarities..

Judges do things the 'civil' way and never get their hands dirty. An utter piece of sh!t way to do things, if you ask me. Judges hand out life in jail or ten years or damn near anything, and none of them ever know that a month in jail is a year in real life. Those scumbags should have to do a couple months inside for every year they judge so they know how little 'rehabilitation' they're handing out.

Soldiers talking about friends? Absolutely. Because they werent just friends. You go into battle, you spend time with your unit.. they become family. Its cliche.. but it truly is a band of brothers. You spend time with someone while on a job. Then you add in hardship. Maybe some death. Threat of death. Its unique. Its messed up. Its a damn lotta trust, lemme tell ya. Assholes, sacred friends.. high and mighty CO's and who-the-hell else.. they all become burnt into your brain. You Might forget their names, You Might forget their face.. but.. its.. ::struggling to find a way to say it:: You remember them all. And its really F'ed up when you forget. Because some of those guys give that 'ultimate sacrifice' and thats a huge gift. One of those gifts that make you step back and realize just what it all means, how awesome they were and at the same time make you depressed as f!ck. No matter how descriptive or detailed or.. whatever.. I couldnt do that explanation the justice it deserves.

.. Anyway. -_-

Soldiers are trained NOT to assign the enemy their due respect. The enemy is charlie. The enemy is a bunch of tango's. The *insurgent's* are returning fire. On the battlefield they're a nameless face that you dont have the luxury of liking, knowing or remembering. They're not Bob from work or Jack from High School, they're a f!cker with a gun and if you think about it too hard, you're gonna be the dead guy or damn near insane.

It's not politically correct. Its not a fluffy pink dream. Sure, its wrong.. but its a different type, or level of wrong than what a civvie argues for.

 

[thedude6926]

So it sucks that some of you lost people you were close to when you were in the forces. Tell me - although I doubt you will - did any of you ever have to kill anybody? What was it like?

Fox

Let me start by saying what the hell do you thing we do in combat .... pick flowers????

Who in there right mind would as somebody to tell them about the guys they lost and what it was like?!?!?!?!?!?! You already knew we wouldn't tell you so why did you still ask?

If you want to know what its like .... try serving your country! If you do ever serve I pray you still don't find out.

 

[thedude6926]

Try reading No True Glory... its a book about my unit in Iraq. Its got Marines telling it how it was.

 

[plwm]

USMC Bulk Fuel.

 

[thedude6926]

I am in a new book called ... "what was asked of us"

Me and some of my buddys tell it like it was in this book. It is hard corps!!

 

[ÆGEAN]

no, i am not from teh army...i am part of 96fm ONLINE ARMY LOL