The media doesn't show these either.
Why does it matter what images they show? Does it change the facts?
The sick fucks on the internet...
Anybody else think this is getting out of control?
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Why does it matter what images they show? Does it change the facts?
The sick fucks on the internet...
alexpnz
Lord Dipstick
Sam, This right here proves that if brains were dynamite, you couldn't blow your fuckin' nose.
I used to be on the fence about you Sam when EVERYONE else told me you were poison, now after seeing that you resort to THIS after NOT being able to engage in an intelligent discussion, I wash my hands of you.
Racist ass hillbilly.....
Sam Fisher
Banned
Sam, This right here proves that if brains were dynamite, you couldn't blow your fuckin' nose.
I used to be on the fence about you Sam when EVERYONE else told me you were poison, now after seeing that you resort to THIS after NOT being able to engage in an intelligent discussion, I wash my hands of you.
Racist ass hillbilly.....
lol, and here I thought you said: NOBODY knows or gives a shit about you and your opinion from behind your laptop.
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All I have to say is, if that those pictures the media is showing are truely 4 years old and the other ones of him are more current and accurate in depicting his mentality, well then he might just be the type of person that would beat on a neighborhood watch person. I am not saying he did, but the way the media is portraying it, he was a little 12 y/o skipping home with candy in his pocket talking to his little puppy love girlfriend. Alot different from a young man who beat on a bus driver, was expelled from school and has been aprehended by police with the tools of the trade for burglery.
he killed a innocent kid..hummm..that innocent kid apparently broke his nose..the guy said he was attacked..if that be the case..i call that self defense, IF that is what happened none of us knows? but what we do know i seen the police report on a news site it read when they showed up a guy was standing there with grass stains and a broke nose,,if that be the case, i dont know who done what..but im smart enough to tell you which came first the shot or the broke nose. they showing baby pictures of the guy that got shot all over tv..wonder why no baby pictures of the shooter..the tv is making this look like a murder stirring shit..it may be..but we dont know that yet...this is not about color here folks your damn right to defend yourself may be at stake. if you think it looks bad now..wait till they try to hang murder on this guy for defending himself..thats when his fans is standing up..right is right wrong is wrong
Sam Fisher
Banned
And, leave it to the media to "pretty" him up. The shot of him on the left is what he REALLY looks like. The one on the right is after the media "cleaned" him and made him "not so black".
It's pitiful what the mainstream media will do.
It's pitiful what the mainstream media will do.
Sam Fisher
Banned
Rep for you, smoknn. Good point!
Supafly
Retired Mod
First:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...isinformation/2012/03/28/gIQAxaPhgS_blog.html
Then:
Zimmerman was following Trayvon,a s documented by the 911 hotline tapes. He got told he should not do that, why should he? No situation until he obviously caused a threatening situation to the kid.
Would you try to defend yourself if a man who followed you around? Sam, you don't tell me you wouldn't.
And to add up to this:
The defending force has to match the aggressive force, IF the kid swung at him, Zimmerman is double the kids size, you tell me he couldn't just knock the shit out of him? That would have been all, and both would go their seperate ways.
No, he had to kill that teenager.
Of course, the Black Panthers are going over the top, too. Citizen's Arrest and 'Street Laws' do not mix.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...isinformation/2012/03/28/gIQAxaPhgS_blog.html
Then:
Zimmerman was following Trayvon,a s documented by the 911 hotline tapes. He got told he should not do that, why should he? No situation until he obviously caused a threatening situation to the kid.
Would you try to defend yourself if a man who followed you around? Sam, you don't tell me you wouldn't.
And to add up to this:
The defending force has to match the aggressive force, IF the kid swung at him, Zimmerman is double the kids size, you tell me he couldn't just knock the shit out of him? That would have been all, and both would go their seperate ways.
No, he had to kill that teenager.
Of course, the Black Panthers are going over the top, too. Citizen's Arrest and 'Street Laws' do not mix.
"Pro life!!!! Yeah!! killing kids is wrong and immoral!!! Now shoot that punk kid in the face he is black!! Afterwards we can make fun of him and compare him to an alien!!! Yeah!!"
The scared rants of a hypocritical racist are always so amusing. If I believed a single thing you posted was legit and not just said to troll I would feel bad for you. Oh and btw Bill Maher has a tv show because Bill does this thing where he makes logical sense which creates a loyal following.
Ace Boobtoucher
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Admittedly this is armchair quarterbacking -- but one thing that repeatedly drilled into our heads was de-escalation and disparity of force. One does not bring a gun to a fistfight and not expect to end up in handfcuffs. It's coming out now that Martin was 6'3 and some 160'ish lbs.... so the size difference wasn't as dramatic as first portrayed. But I can't see Zimmerman claiming that he was in genuine fear for his life or at the very least, grave bodily harm... and then refuse a trip to the hospital afterwards. All this plus the Sanford PD did him no favors but not performing mandatory drug tests, assigning the wrong detective, et al. That would have at least been more ammo on Zimmerman's side.
This is a scenario that is straddling the line between completely unjustified and a really gray area. I know we don't get to pick and choose the times we have to defend ourselves, but -- knock on wood -- if it ever happens to me I'd like to think I'd be on a little more solid footing. All this could have been avoided had Zimmerman just called the cops like a good little neighborhood watch guy, stayed in his damn car and let le'Policia do their jobs. I'm not suggesting that we the common citizen cower before potential criminals, but for Christ's sake, pick and choose your battles a little more carefully.
This is a scenario that is straddling the line between completely unjustified and a really gray area. I know we don't get to pick and choose the times we have to defend ourselves, but -- knock on wood -- if it ever happens to me I'd like to think I'd be on a little more solid footing. All this could have been avoided had Zimmerman just called the cops like a good little neighborhood watch guy, stayed in his damn car and let le'Policia do their jobs. I'm not suggesting that we the common citizen cower before potential criminals, but for Christ's sake, pick and choose your battles a little more carefully.
DR. B
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mr. zimmerman's self defense isn't valid, IMO. zimmerman started the confrontation. you have this kid walking on the sidewalk, minding his own business, talking on the cell phone with his gf. the kid notices a vehicle following him. the kid doesn't know who it could be; maybe a molester, or a perv, who knows. all the kid knows is someone following him. so right there the kid is in self defense mode which gives the kid two options; run or just keep cool and maybe the idiot will leave. Instead, zimmerman gets out of the truck and confronts the teen. again, the kid doesn't know who it is and now thinks, "ok the guy got out of the truck and is coming towards me asking what am i doing here" once again self defense is for the kid. right now zimmerman has no defense cause he started the confrontation. zimmerman asked "what are you doing here?" the kid says "why are you following me?" zimmerman repeats the question and the kid repeats his question. this angers and frustrates zimmerman so he pushes the teen, thinking the teen wasn't going to fight back. well, this teen fought back and as far as the kid knows he didn't know who zimmerman was, the kid figured he was some grown man looking for trouble. the kid beats the fuck out of zimmerman, but still, this isn't a self defense for zimmerman. its for the kid. 3 things rule self defense for the kid, zimmerman following him, zimmerman getting out of his truck, zimmerman pushing him. the kid then sees the gun and im sure the kid didnt know if zimmerman had planned to kill him or what, but somewhere he reached for it and zimmerman grabbed it first, shooting the kid in the chest.
I'm sure zimmerman didn't plan this. I'm sure he just wanted to fuck with this kid walking in his neighborhood. and don't forget the what if's. what if zimmerman had identified himself wen he had gotten out of the truck, "hello, im with the neighborhood watch, just wondering if you had seen any trouble?" instead, he just asked "what are you doing here?" and confronted the kid. What if zimmerman had just sat there and waited for the police just as the dispatcher told him to. then everything would be different. zimmerman needs to be charged with manslaughter, no doubt. Not homicide cause like i says, i dont think he meant to hurt the kid. just a bad situation that blew up in zimmerman's face.
oh and i still get this, This message is hidden because Sam Fisher is on your ignore list.
LOL!!!!
dont know where you got your news bro..but the shooter weighed 170lbs
Sam Fisher
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It's well beyond out of control now.....
Spike Lee Under Fire for Tweeting Wrong Address in Trayvon Martin Controversy
The director is accused of inciting racial violence with his retweet of the alleged whereabouts of George Zimmerman.
Spike Lee has been earning mostly positive accolades in Hollywood and the mainstream media for taking up the cause of Trayvon Martin, the Florida teenager killed by neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman. A hasty retweet, though, has landed the activist-director in hot water, at least in some circles.
During the weekend, Lee retweeted Zimmerman’s address to his 248,000 followers, a move some denounced for its potential to incite violence against the Hispanic man who shot the black teenager in Sanford, Fla. On Tuesday, reporter Kerry Picket of The Washington Times wrote that the address Lee retweeted and is now floating all over the Internet was incorrect.
“I took a drive to that Edgewater Circle address that so many on Twitter retweeted and cursed, and I discovered through a neighbor named Tim, who lives across the street from the address, that not only does George Zimmerman not live at the lakeside house but a woman by the name of Elaine does,” Picket wrote Tuesday.
“While it was not wise to incite the masses to go to an address he thought was Mr. Zimmerman’s to begin with, Mr. Lee should still ‘do the right thing’ and give the actual resident at the address some peace and apologize for disrupting her life,” Picket wrote.
Conservative bloggers and columnists in general have seized on what they perceive as Lee’s attempt to stoke rage by supplying the address -- correct or not -- of a man some are characterizing as a reckless killer inspired by racial animus.
Spike Lee Under Fire for Tweeting Wrong Address in Trayvon Martin Controversy
The director is accused of inciting racial violence with his retweet of the alleged whereabouts of George Zimmerman.
Spike Lee has been earning mostly positive accolades in Hollywood and the mainstream media for taking up the cause of Trayvon Martin, the Florida teenager killed by neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman. A hasty retweet, though, has landed the activist-director in hot water, at least in some circles.
During the weekend, Lee retweeted Zimmerman’s address to his 248,000 followers, a move some denounced for its potential to incite violence against the Hispanic man who shot the black teenager in Sanford, Fla. On Tuesday, reporter Kerry Picket of The Washington Times wrote that the address Lee retweeted and is now floating all over the Internet was incorrect.
“I took a drive to that Edgewater Circle address that so many on Twitter retweeted and cursed, and I discovered through a neighbor named Tim, who lives across the street from the address, that not only does George Zimmerman not live at the lakeside house but a woman by the name of Elaine does,” Picket wrote Tuesday.
“While it was not wise to incite the masses to go to an address he thought was Mr. Zimmerman’s to begin with, Mr. Lee should still ‘do the right thing’ and give the actual resident at the address some peace and apologize for disrupting her life,” Picket wrote.
Conservative bloggers and columnists in general have seized on what they perceive as Lee’s attempt to stoke rage by supplying the address -- correct or not -- of a man some are characterizing as a reckless killer inspired by racial animus.
you talk like you were there..have you told police you were there ? they need to know.....and me and everyone else wants to know how his nose got broke can you clear that up?
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DR. B
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just my opinion
Will E Worm
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It was self defense plain and simple.
That could be said about a lot of cases. The Black Panthers can show up and put a bounty on someone? The Klan can't?
Jackson and Sharpton are there to stir the pot and make money.
And, leave it to the media to "pretty" him up. The shot of him on the left is what he REALLY looks like. The one on the right is after the media "cleaned" him and made him "not so black".
It's pitiful what the mainstream media will do.
The liberal media will do anything that helps their agenda.
I have this problem too. One, if he was really in an altercation involving serious bodily harm, why do we not have (a) police treating him at the scene, (b) EMTs treating him at the scene, (c) any record of him seeking medical attention after not getting either of those? So the justification for armed force seems to fall apart right there. Someone comes at me with a knife and I have a gun, sure, I'll shoot, because a good stab wound will kill me. A good bashing will too, but POINTING as opposed to FIRING a weapon would have been more appropriate. I'd like to know more about why Zimmerman felt the need to employ deadly force rather than use it as a deterrent, if he did feel in danger.
Malkin and a number of others have been using doctored and/or simply innacurate photos in the last few days, Business Insider even GRABBED A FEW FROM FUCKING STORMFRONT, THE WHITE SUPREMACIST FORUM, to use as "evidence" of a "clearer" picture of Martin when none of the photos they grabbed ended up being real. They removed them, but haven't even issued an apology for their journalistic incompetence. I will say this, Malkin had the decency to retract and apologize after finding out what she was doing. Shows laziness on her part to make sure the things she essentially reposts from colleagues are accurate, but enough integrity to retreat when that laziness produces predictable results.
Now, this bounty business on Zimmerman's head? Ridiculous. Just as I want to know what justification, legally and circumstantially, Zimmerman had for shooting, so too do I want due process for him so this doesn't become MORE of an embarrassment of our judicial system than it already is. The investigation on scene was a farce, the police failed miserably at follow-up which makes any of their statements thereafter subject to questionable credibility (whereas if we had a solid onsite investigation we might be more inclined to trust their statements).
On to the hoodie business. Hoodies are not merely gang attire. If they are, Mark Zuckerburg and several Apple executives I've met should be brought in for questioning. The fact that a black kid was wearing a hoodie in humid Florida weather is at best incidental, but mostly irrelevant. Zimmerman or any cop using that as an excuse for suspicion would be revealing they have no idea what "reasonable suspicion" is, because in any other case (let's say, a traffic stop by a cop who saw a black kid wearing a hoodie) would be laughed out of a judge's chambers. And to add to the "why warm clothing in humidity?" questions, I live in a college town---Tempe, AZ, to be precise. In summer I see idiot kids around 19 wearing everything from rednecks in flanel longsleeves to wannabe models in scarves, and yes, hoodies (on what seems like everyone these days)---in 110 degrees! Why? I dunno, fashion I guess, but I've always thought it stupid. I've NEVER though, thought "you know, maybe that indicates criminal activity", and even if it did, it wasn't for Zimmerman to follow up on.
Zimmerman placed himself in the scenario where danger was even possible when he followed this kid because of prejudicial profiling (black kid wearing hoodie = suspicious possible gang member) even after police told him not to. Even if he wanted to accost Martin and make sure he belonged in the neighborhood, he could have pulled up in his SUV and said "hey, I'm in neighborhood watch, haven't seen you around before, what's up?"---hell, that probably could have ended with Zimmerman giving the kid a ride to where he was going--but instead he followed Martin on foot which placed himself in a scenario where even IF Martin jumped him, shouldn't have been possible. The situation was further muddied AFTER the shooting took place by incompetent police work, which alone warrants the secondary investigations from state and federal authorities.
We have to wait for more facts to come out. I admit fully that liberal media is guilty of practically bombarding the airwaves with (1) racist questions that should wait until the facts are known and (2) pictures and sympathetic anecdotes about Martin that play up victimization without really giving an accurate picture. But the sudden reaction by alternative views, especially conservative sources, to say "he was dressed like a hoodlum!" or "he had once had a pot suspension!" is equally despicable because these anecdotes are equally irrelevant to the actual incident in question. He had a twitter account that had the n-word (actually, "*****") in it----and? What exactly does that have to do with this?
I'm not assuming Zimmerman's guilt yet because our justice system demands equal treatment under the law and innocence until guilt is proven, and Zimmerman, like anyone, deserves his day in court. But the fact that the huge legal loophole of the "Stand Your Ground" law made it so police justified such shoddy work and no arrest or detaining of Zimmerman until more facts could be found, is itself an embarrassment. Zimmerman was at best a fool, he made several actions that call his judgment and racial tolerance into question, but that doesn't answer the question of his guilt any more than Martin's suspension from school. The recent panel discussion on Sunday's "Meet the Press" was illuminating, the members came to a decent consensus that race and so forth had little to do with the immediate needs of the case so much as finding the facts and having a long-overdue competent investigation, and that the more pressing concerns are the legalities and police procedures in need of shaping up to prevent these mistakes--from all parties---happening again.
So here's where I stand: I think Zimmerman should be further questioned, possibly arrested for murder, so an indictment can be held and evidence be laid out as our law demands. Then both sides can be heard. I think Al Sharpton and liberal press should be ashamed of their attempts to take this story and turn it into ratings and attention gold just because of the victim's race, and the reaction from conservative media to use incidental evidence as justification for Zimmerman's story as equally shameful. And people should have a discussion over where this makes our legal system stand, whether laws that justify use of force are too broad, whether police need to follow more ironclad procedures to follow up on cases like this, and how communities need to better orient themselves to prevent this from happening between two residents of the same neighborhood. We need the facts, we need the discussion, but the way this has turned into a devolving, alternatively race-baiting and undignified screaming about the monstrousness of Zimmerman or the stereotyping of Martin, is the least productive use of our time possible.
The media is trying soooo hard to sell this one. I say let it run its course. It's a pathetic display from everyone involved.
And they keep showing the photo of this Zimmerman guy looking like a mugshot while simultaneously portraying the victim as an innocent little boy. It's so......I don't know, fucked up.
You know what the real tragedy is? All the hundreds of thousands of black Americans that have latched onto this story as a "white on black" deal, when Zimmerman is Hispanic.
NYT reporter Valesquez (I believe was her name) labeled him a "white Hispanic." Are you fucking serious? It's that sort of shit right there that is so over-the-line cheap It makes my gaddamned WASP blood boil. No, I don't just dislike this bitch for trying to incite such a disgusting movement against me for nothing, I HATE HER and truly wish her nothing but the worst.
Moreover, why are these black Americans protesting this, which is a case that has yet to see law run its course? Where are they about the hundreds - maybe thousands - of blacks that are murdered in cold blood every year at the hands at their own brothers?
FUCK THEM. FUCK THIS. And they should all be ashamed.
And they keep showing the photo of this Zimmerman guy looking like a mugshot while simultaneously portraying the victim as an innocent little boy. It's so......I don't know, fucked up.
You know what the real tragedy is? All the hundreds of thousands of black Americans that have latched onto this story as a "white on black" deal, when Zimmerman is Hispanic.
NYT reporter Valesquez (I believe was her name) labeled him a "white Hispanic." Are you fucking serious? It's that sort of shit right there that is so over-the-line cheap It makes my gaddamned WASP blood boil. No, I don't just dislike this bitch for trying to incite such a disgusting movement against me for nothing, I HATE HER and truly wish her nothing but the worst.
Moreover, why are these black Americans protesting this, which is a case that has yet to see law run its course? Where are they about the hundreds - maybe thousands - of blacks that are murdered in cold blood every year at the hands at their own brothers?
FUCK THEM. FUCK THIS. And they should all be ashamed.
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
Really? He'a "white" hispanic?"
So, this is a "white" on black crime? Get real!
This is the liberal media pushing an agenda. It's sad and pathetic.
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