Americans should not be allowed to own guns.
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Not so fast...
No, the U.S. does not have the highest murder rate but...
Wouldn't a better statistic be "Firearm Homicide Rate per 100,000" rather than "Total Homicide Rate from All Causes"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence
On that measure, in 2000 the U.S. ranked 9th (out of 37 countries).
Behind only - Colombia, Paraguay, Guatemala, Zimbabwe, Mexico, Costa Rica, Belarus, and Barbados according to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime.
Well, is that bad or good?
I suppose it depends on your perspective.
- Only about 1/18 as bad as Colombia.
- About the same as Lithuania and Slovakia.
- and much worse than New Zealand, England, and Singapore.
(In rough order of importance)
1) Canadians are scary!
2) Personal protection. It is better to have one and not need it, than need one and not have it.
3) The world is a dangerous place.
4) Hunting and recreation
1) It is provided for in the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution
2) Illegal firearms are, and will likely continue to be, readily available - so eliminating the right would, in effect, only eliminate it for those willing to obtain them legally.
3) Personal firearms are likely not sufficient to overthrow the U.S. military / government and thus pose no significant threat to (or defense from) the state. (even if this was true at some point in history)
Why are they so "scared" that they feel need to put locks on their doors? :dunno:
I wonder, is that simply paranoia too? If not, what is a well defined "paranoia test" for personal protection?
I understand your point about the cyclical nature of fear and violence, but where should the line be drawn?
Should bodyguards still be allowed to carry firearms? Doesn't it serve any protective benefit?
The better question is - "Why do they think they only need a gun to protect themselves from something like tyranny?"
Personal firearms are reasonable and sufficient protection against some crimes, but not a modern industrialized tyrannical state should it arise. IMO
Tyranny is best opposed not when the oppressor is already at your door, but through collective peaceful action by a variety of means in order to limit tyrannical power at very early stages.
I am also doubtful as to the benefit of an impromptu militia with legal, civilian owned SALW to provide any serious protection against modern military threats to the United States.
:2 cents:
glad u kill animals for fun. ur suuuuuch a great being
But you can't grill it until you kill it. Wild game is much more flavorful than store bought meat and more nutritious.:yummie:
how bout we shoot humans for fun
And how exactly do you come to this conclusion. Hunting and murder ARE two different things. Eating meat was essential for the development of the human brain. Murder, not so much. I hunt with both firearms and a bow. I guess I don't follow your logic.
Oh by the way here's an interesting read. :hatsoff:
http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/99legacy/6-14-1999a.html
look. my MAIN problem is not a simple shot to the head but taking animals away from their families and sending them to slaughterhouses to be brutally beaten, stomped on and strangled. it's barbaric and i would love to do dat to the perpetrators and let their families know i was just hungry.
btw ur link is not relevant today. vegans live great lives.
"I did not climb to the top of the food chain to eat fucking carrots." Ron White
lol u don't stay in da hood do u?
Mr. Daystar
In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
I agree only to the point when we bring in veal....MMMMMM...forced milk fed, short roped baby cow....MMMMM...veal. And suckling pig.
Let me tell you why Americans should be allowed to own gun and also willing to fire the guns and kill.
Watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKTw-UHalZc
In 1992, when the verdict of Rodney King came out, tens of thosuands of people rioted in L.A., they robbed and killed innocent people. There were no police and no National Guards.
They robbed stores, took clothings, shoes, foods and ruined all small business and resulted in 6 billion dollars riot.
The truth is the Korean-Americans were prepared and fought back in minutes against the thugs and "without guns" to protect their shops in Koreantown, L.A., their shops would have been burned down.
Luckily it is the guns, powerful rifles, automatic that protected the small businesses in LA. from the looters.
You can see related Youtube during the riot and how the small business owners fought back against the thugs, the thieves.
Gun fights are not pretty and killing is not pretty. But there is time you have to protect your loved ones, your businesses when some thugs tried to rob you !
The right to keep and own guns is GOD given rights written BY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS and sealed it in the Second Amendment. (watch the videos and you will understand why we need guns to protect ourselves.
My friend lost his entire life saving during the LA riot in 1992. He vowed to kill all those bastards if there is another riot in LA.
Watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKTw-UHalZc
In 1992, when the verdict of Rodney King came out, tens of thosuands of people rioted in L.A., they robbed and killed innocent people. There were no police and no National Guards.
They robbed stores, took clothings, shoes, foods and ruined all small business and resulted in 6 billion dollars riot.
The truth is the Korean-Americans were prepared and fought back in minutes against the thugs and "without guns" to protect their shops in Koreantown, L.A., their shops would have been burned down.
Luckily it is the guns, powerful rifles, automatic that protected the small businesses in LA. from the looters.
You can see related Youtube during the riot and how the small business owners fought back against the thugs, the thieves.
Gun fights are not pretty and killing is not pretty. But there is time you have to protect your loved ones, your businesses when some thugs tried to rob you !
The right to keep and own guns is GOD given rights written BY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS and sealed it in the Second Amendment. (watch the videos and you will understand why we need guns to protect ourselves.
My friend lost his entire life saving during the LA riot in 1992. He vowed to kill all those bastards if there is another riot in LA.
At the moment, no, though I did used to live in Stoke Newington and St Pauls back in the day
Why not? House contents insurance is dirt cheap (in fact my insurers don't even charge for it if I take out buildings insurance with them and it remains free until I make a claim.After that it might be $50 a year or so).
Unlike sitting there with a gun, the insurance works even when the house is empty!
Mr. Daystar
In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
I'm still wrestling with the naive mindset that, this is about protecting my home, and possessions from theft and vandalism. I have very good home owners insurance, and if I'm not at home, and it is broken into, I will file a claim in regards to the items I've lost. Likewise, if some little fucktard in the neighborhood wants to do some stupid shit, I will seek justice through the local law enforcement agency, and seek damages from the parents, or insurance companies. This is about HUMAN LIFE. MINE, and MY FAMILIES! I obey the law, I work, I live up to the responsibilities a "productive member" of society is supposed to. My life, and the lives of my family, are far more valuable, then the lives of a criminal, that may have the intention of doing me, or my family harm. How, you may ask, do I have the right to determine who's life is more valuable? Because I am a firm believer in the fact, that if you choose to break the law, you loose certain rights, and if you are in my home, I'm not willing to cower in a corner, or take a lets wait and see attitude towards the criminals intentions. In today's day and age, criminals are getting bolder, and more violent, and less likely to have a regard for my life, or my families. No, this isn't about personal property, this is about personal well being, and the preservation of life. Like I said, you don't bring a knife, to a gun fight, and no matter what laws you pass, they will only effect the law abiding.
Unbelievable!
"Most"??? Aside from the fact that no one should be resigned to standing by and watching the stuff they've spent their money on (and may actually like) get trotted out their door in the arms of some sewer sludge, what about those who happen to get robbed by the thieves who don't simply haul ass after taking your shit???
So what your hope is in this scenario is that you're not home in the event your home is robbed?
If you live in an area prone to home robberies and you are against owning a firearm, the insurance policy you should be updating is your life insurance policy.:2 cents:
In the vanshingly small % of cases where the burglar is going into the proprerty with the intention of harming the occupants, the homeowner would put themselves in greater danger by coming out armed.
Even if true...if you're the one in "the vanishingly small % of cases" then what?
TFB (To Fucking Bad)?
YFA (you're fucked anyway) and in the meantime, there's no fear of becoming one of the thousands killed every year in their own home by accident
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